• REDACTED@infosec.pub
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    I don’t think people smoke because they feel like shit doing so, quite the opposite imo

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      Question: did memes like this help?

      Asking because I do street cleaning work in my neighborhood. And assholes keep throwing cigarette butts right on the ground.

      I’d love to find a solution to have them quit smoking, which will lead to less cigarette butts.

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        I agree with @RedditIsDeddit , it does not help. It may even make things worse. All this meme does is make me feel misunderstood and despised by others (While some of them don’t even understand what I actually go through). Tobacco is a terrible addiction. I quited for two years but fell again when I broke up with my ex. During those two years I dreamt of smoking at least once a week and gained 15kg. I grew up in France in the 90s and then the country did a pretty shitty job protecting kids (I started buying cigarettes for myself at 14 and it was easy because the tobacco shop owner didn’t bat an eye). I think the solution is prevention and children’s protection (by preventing access) to ensure that they don’t start. For those who already smoke the best is kind support not guilt and disdain. (And total bans don’t help either, we just feel left out when the government who now bans us from every place and treats us like awful weak-willed bastards initially incitated us to smoke two decades ago with adds and easy access).

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        No. Having others say something you already know as a addict of a substance doesn’t help at all. We know we should stop. We all know that. The challenge of an addict is being willing to stop, and then being successful at stopping. Then abstinence.

        When I was a smoker, I watch my grandmother die from smoking related lung cancer right in front of my face, it didn’t change a thing. I’d go outside of the hospital and smoke all the same. I had to want to quit.

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      Tell me about it! I had to accept that part of quitting involved forever missing something, but knowing I’m better off without it.

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      Man if only that was true. A neighbor across the street is a chain smoker, and I hear him hack up a lung every morning for a couple of hours.

      Yeah smoking will make you live shorter, but it’ll also reaaaally fuckin’ ruin your life leading up to that.

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    As a tobacco fiend I couldn’t ever get into smoking cigs. The only time in my life I’ve smoked consistently was when I was extra depressed and trying to microdose suicide. Guess I’m lucky

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    I smoked from the time I was 15, until I was 33. I got a prescription for something called Chantix that worked really well for me to quit permanently.

    It worked well for a few people I knew, but one guy said it made him really depressed / suicidal.

    Chantix isn’t available anymore because of something that was in it that might cause cancer, but there’s a generic form of it called varenicline that may or may not be available in your country. Ask your doctor maybe if there’s a pill that will help you quit.

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      Yeah, this worked well for me, too. The generic one you mention also had less side effects for me. There’s still the vivid dreams / nightmares, but less intense.

      From Chantix /Champix I recollect the spider dreams and floor crumbling beneath me.

      But hey, anything to quit smoking.

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    What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I’ll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho 👍

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      It’s alright they never had to suffer from the utter brainwash advertising we had. They are brainwashed the other way. It’s probably a good thing. World used to be a smoke cloud.

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      Mental inconvenience takes a number of forms, one of them is nicotine addiction. Some people with more standard brains than you and I can’t comprehend why we would regularly consume literal poison to feel better instead of, I don’t know, watching a Disney film or running until they sweat and smell.

      I have switched over to a vape and mix my own flavorless, scentless juice. I still feel like a pariah when I use it, and stick to alleys and back lots.

      I truly wish vape culture hadn’t had that bro moment of douche bags chucking clouds in theaters and making a fuss when imbibing indoors.

      I’d be slightly less embarrassed of the pile of addictions I’ve become.

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      What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?

      Cigarettes aren’t the only way you can get addicted, you know. You made the connection between cigarettes and addictions, here in this post.

      Also wouldn’t it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?

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        What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?

        Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.

        Also wouldn’t it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?

        Gee, that’s such great advice! Why didn’t the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.

        Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It’s a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for “choosing” their sexuality or gender.

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          Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.

          Where did they mention addiction?

          They mention cigarettes, and their bad affects on the people using them and the people around that. Stating that they are bad should not be offensive, because that is stating the facts.

          If they are offended by that… IDK. That is something they have to work through themselves.

          Gee, that’s such great advice! Why didn’t the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.

          You are misrepresenting what I said. I said that to get over an addiction you first have to want it. And you say: Just wanting to stop is not enough, and I agree.

          Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It’s a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for “choosing” their sexuality or gender.

          True, however people don’t just wake up one day and be addicted. They have to take it first (willingly or unwillingly), putting a social stigma on the act of using these addictive substances, can at least prevent some people of getting accidentally addicted.

          So I would be in favor of supporting people getting out of their addiction, while preventing people to get addicted, by showing what is bad about these drugs and trying to fight against the social component of “taking them makes you cool”.

          What are you fighting for? Finding ways of being offended?

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    tfw you share balcony with smoking neighbour and you work remotely in the room with open windows…

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            Might be that the only one that gets any fresh air into their office is the one closest to the smoker.

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              I think a box fan is like $20. Have one that blows air OUT of the window that’s closest to the smoker… have a different box fan bringing fresh air IN from a different window.

              JFC it’s like everyone enjoys being helpless.

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                Still increases your electricity bill. Why can’t the smoker just have the common decency to not smoke next to an open window? I know I never do, it’s just rude.

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                  Hey… I 100% agree with you there. The smoker is certainly an ass-hat, but in this life we can only control our own actions; not the actions of others.