• HiTekRedNek@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 days ago

    When the government is powerful enough to cause genocides, that’s a problem. It’s far easier to just not give your money to a business that engages in such practices.

    Not giving money to your government, however, is considered tax evasion.

  • muusemuuse@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 days ago

    leave the country. You are paying taxes, purchasing goods and services, raising families, and just being here enables the genocide machine to continue churning. We have no representation here. It’s all performative. But take their money away and oh boy do they notice that.

  • delusion@lemmy.myserv.one
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    2 days ago

    Talk with people! Discuss it with your friends! Be aware that they might have a very different outlook on this, so be patient with people. Here is a list of things to do when discussing this with people supporting Israel:

    • Don’t berate them. These are your friends, not murderers. Direct your anger towards the actual murderers.
    • Ask them if they believe Israel is mounting a heavy disinformation/propaganda campaign towards the west. If they do not believe this, it is relatively easy to prove, see example below.
    • Show them the Twitter accs of Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. These guys are quite outspoken in their intentions.
    • Show them examples of heroic acts of Palestinas, rather than just Palestinians suffering. This will help them respect Arabs, as that seems to be difficult for many Americans due to two and a half decades of Indoctrination that all arabs all terrorists.
    • Also the obvious things (tens of thousands of children killed, not letting food enter, cutting off water, etc)

    Example of Israeli disinformation: They created a fake hamas website (hamas dotttt com) whereas the real website was taken down from all of internet (hamas dottt ps). The fake one was heavily promoted by Israel’s official twitter acc and several Israeli government officials on twitter and recieved heavy traffic during Oct 2023-end of 2024. Use the wayback machine or similar for this, I believe both sites are down now.

    There has also been many, many other lies by the Israeli government. Find proved examples and show.

      • ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website
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        2 days ago

        Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so

          • AidsKitty@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            You’re saying they don’t pay for their weapons? Pretty sure we would stop selling them weapons if they weren’t ever paying for them.

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 days ago

              I am indeed saying that. Remember that the US government doesn’t have state run arms industries: the money is going to private companies regardless of whether Israel buys them, or the US government buys them and gifts them to Israel. It’s not about money.

              • AidsKitty@lemmy.world
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                2 days ago

                True we don’t have state run arms industries but never think the military industrial complex isn’t part of the government. In America it’s always about the money.

  • rekabis@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago
    • get a sniper rifle
    • train to take out targets at a large distance
    • know where and when ICE will be, especially where they will muster before one of their “raids”
    • in many cases, there will be little to no difference between ICE and LEO. Both are putting on brown shirts and violently attacking their own communities.

    Fascism can only be perpetuated when fascists do not fear being killed. If you are not with them, they will gladly kill you – it’s time you took steps to protect yourself and your community.

    • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      1 day ago

      Oh hey it’s once again the “freedom advocate” who is always spouting off support for the most fascist oppressive shit going on in the world. I should learn how to block in this new app

      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish
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        1 day ago

        Oh look, another lefty who I have no idea who they are whose head I live rent free in :)

        And surprise surprise, they have nothing useful to say and can’t answer a simple question.

    • delusion@lemmy.myserv.one
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      2 days ago

      I take it you do not believe Israel is commiting genocide? Or are you genuinely asking in which way the USA is enabling this?

  • MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com
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    3 days ago

    I don’t know, but I know of one thing citizens SHOULDN’T do to prevent their country enabling genocide. That is forfeiting their future by electing a dictator that might genocide poor people on the other side of the world a little less in exchange for giving up freedoms. I get it. Voluntarily making our lives worse because it might help poor people in another country sounds like a grand and noble thing to do. But now they’re sending American citizens to concentration camps. If you think this was a fair trade, just block me right now. Don’t be like gen Z and swing voters in the 2024 US election. Sometimes you just have to choose to save yourself first.

    • GoodWaterBottle@lemmus.orgEnglish
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      2 days ago

      60000 gazans had died by june last year according to the lancet. Remind me who was in charge then?

      This is shocking to me. The person is genuinely asking how to stop genociders and some rando comes and tell him to vote for them.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Unless you’re a billionaire or willing to go full Player 2, there’s nothing you can do on a macro scale.

    You can, in your little slice of the world, do good things. When ICE asks you if you’ve seen someone, you tell them you haven’t. If you’re walking past a business getting raided and see a brown person, you tell them to turn around and get away. If you run a school and ICE shows up, you stand up for the kids they’re trying to kidnap. If you see ICE kidnapping someone, at minimum, film and post it. If there’s a group of people willing to physically intervene, join them.

    That’s it.

    Voting doesn’t solve this because all Democrats have to offer is strongly-worded letters, and trump uses those letters to wipe Elon Musk’s ass. Their choice was aiding and abetting fascism or getting richer, and they chose the money.

    • Disaster@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      Furthermore:

      Be aware of local political groups in your areas that share values that align with yours. Generally, have a practice of being involved. Work out how your state and local elections and party machines operate, run for empty positions or support good candidates who will do the job, and not sell out to the local moneybags.

      Attend protests. Sure, it might look like a bunch of people standing outside getting rained on with soggy cardboard signs, but protest works. It shows others that even though you may be afraid, you’re still standing up for what you believe is right. Support protests you agree with - order them some pizzas or something.

      There’s no longer a choice about what to do - become an activist, or become complicit.

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Attend protests.

        Meh, not sure I agree on this one, unless you’re part of the Marsha P. Johnson school of brick throwing and you’re going armed. Protests accomplish nothing (apart from making it easier for ICE to identify people) without a credible threat of violence.

        • Disaster@sh.itjust.works
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          2 days ago

          I disagree with you. Protests accomplish a great deal, and send an undeniable message when that message is appropriately scoped and targeted.

          Protests show popular support for an issue in ways that are impossible to minimize or ignore, and they are effective in moving the needle on issues. Have a few tens of thousands of people take to the streets sends an undeniable message. Even getting a hundred people to chant something in a town square sends an undeniable message. Just because the outcome isn’t immediately visible doesn’t mean that nothing was accomplished.

          NEVER go to a protest armed, that defeats the purpose. Why make a situation worse by making everyone surrounding the protest regardless of whether they’re uniform, or just someone getting to and from lunch fearful for their lives? That’s very bad advice. Additionally, gearing up almost automatically makes for a bad look. Half of what a protest aims to accomplish is to show the other side of an issue “We are here, we aren’t something you should be afraid of, we are people like you” - how is that aim going to be achieved by masking up like a bunch of cosplaying militarized goons? You don’t want that. I don’t want that. Believe it or not, I doubt half of the people co-opted into ICE want that. And part of the message has to be “We don’t need this in our lives”

          Just take a look at the campus protests regarding the Palestinian Genocide. First off the students were made out to be violent, which as it turns out is largely untrue, then a bunch of pro-israel actual crazies showed up and started assaulting them (and random people) on the street. Not a good look, even with media minimization. By simply being there, and refusing to give up, they have raised awareness on the issue despite the personal cost. Those people have taken a great personal risk to do something about a situation they find ethically intolerable. I think that deserves respect, at the very least.

          Be loud, focused and get your point across, but be respectful. I’ve seen police step in to stop potentially/violent counterprotestors on many occasions, believe it or not they do actually try to be neutral even in the face of provocation - so don’t offer that kind of fear to anyone sharing the local environment whilst making your point. There’s so little respectful middle ground remaining that it is critical to preserve it, because this is now a wasting asset.

          This situation is now tilting towards the question of how much the lack of protest and visible popular opposition emboldens a group of self-serving individuals, before the cumulative risk becomes worse than the risk of protesting and possibly getting hurt. Constant, nonviolent protest in even the face of state violence is how to win this, and sure, that puts the protestors at risk. Risk is part of this equation, it’s coming for us - for many it’s already here - and can no longer be ignored.

          I get that it’s hard work. Sometimes it feels like nothing is accomplished, and it’s not shocking and awe inspiring…but Hard Work is what’s required to correct this trajectory. We spend so much time and effort making entertainment about one special person or one special moment that we’ve given ourselves a social impediment vs. truly understanding the kinds of efforts, risks and suffering it took to get to a more equitable society in the first place.

  • Emergency3030@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Next election vote EVERYONE OUT. No Republicans (MAGA) should be left in Congress to make sure they give a hell to Trump and force him to quit (almost near impossible) but that’s the only way

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 days ago

        No, 60 thousand people were positively confirmed to have been directly killed by Israeli munitions. The number of people who died in total was estimated at a quarter million.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      Someone is feeling positive and adventurous, talking about voting and stuff… Do you really think that you’ll be able to vote in a fair election next time?

      The work that I’ve seen done to sabotage voting before and after last US elections ntrlls me that cheeto&co are hell bent on making sure no one in the US will be able to vote honestly ever again.

      The time to do something was 6 months ago, now its too little, too late

      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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        3 days ago

        It’s worse than that. The guy is suggesting to replace the Nazis with Nazis-lite lol

  • Angel Mountain@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    Speak up, tell people what you think and why.

    If that doesn’t work: something was added to your constitution for this situation, the second amendment. You can use your six shooter to go up to the government’s tank and gunships. Good luck.

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      We don’t put it in the tourism brochures, but it turns out guns are really expensive. Which sucks because the fash seem to have all the money at the moment.

  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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    3 days ago

    Not much that will have direct actionable results tbh but it doesn’t mean you should not a proper position within your abilities.

    Boycott, awareness spreading, voting but that’s even more limited

    Just generally going into opposition v the two party regime that ensure that there is viable way to stop us support to Israel