Killing doesn’t make stealing okay

Yes it is. Animals need that meat inside their bodies, taking it is stealing.

No, and I see your point. Sorry for forgetting that we’re stronger together. I’m making a stand right now and saying Nutomic is a fake socialist who values power over fairness, and his erasure of indigenous communism is deeply racist. He should also be fired for his denial of genocide.

I want the Lemmy project to stop giving money to Nutomic. I think they should hire a trans developer instead. I mean, Lemmy is written in Rust, which is the gayest programming language, so it should be easy to find one.

Well, I think people who support fascists trying to coup the government deserve to be shot, and people who encourage millions not to get vaccinated against deadly plagues also deserve to be shot.

I’m deliberately choosing not to make this about my own views on anarchy vs fake authoritarian socialism, because I want to find common ground with the Lemmy development team in terms of agreeing that transphobia has no place in any version of leftism and no place on Lemmy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Point_USA#United_States_election_activities

In October 2023, an English instructor at Arizona State University, who was listed on the Professor Watchlist and was a co-founder of Drag Story Hour Arizona, was followed across ASU by a two-member TPUSA crew repeatedly asking him accusatory questions; he was pushed onto concrete from the back after appearing to try to push away a camera.[98][99] The instructor, David Boyles, said the resulting wounds to his face were “relatively minor” and said the incident occurred after his class about LGBTQ+ youth in pop culture and politics.[98][100] ASU’s president said TPUSA was at fault for harassment and violence,[101] while TPUSA posts on social media blamed Boyles.[98] ASU’s president said he had previously contacted TPUSA in order to have professors at the school removed from the Professor Watchlist but was not given a response.[100][101]

Kirk ordered harassment and violence against academics who teach students that queer people exist

After the 2020 election, Kirk disputed the results and denied that Trump had lost.[134] On January 4, 2021, Kirk announced in a tweet that Turning Point Action would be sending more than 80 buses to a January 6, 2021, Trump “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House in Washington, D.C., to protest the outcome of the election.[135][136][137][138] They sent seven buses with approximately 350 participants.[135] Turning Point Action also funneled money to several “Stop the Steal” rally speakers, including Kimberly Guilfoyle, but did not organize or take part in the march to the Capitol that erupted in violence.[9][139] The rally, which was attended by several thousand Trump supporters, ended in a riot and the attack at the U.S. Capitol, where Biden’s win was about to be certified.[136] Kirk later deleted the tweet[137] and said on his podcast that it was “bad judgment” and “not wise” to enter the Capitol but not necessarily insurrectionist.[140] A Turning Point Action spokesman later said the group condemns political violence.[136]

Kirk supported Trump’s attempted coup of the government

In December 2017, The New Yorker published an article by Jane Mayer showcasing interviews with former minority members of TPUSA. Former staff members said they witnessed widespread discrimination against minorities in the group; “the organization was a difficult workplace and rife with tension, some of it racial,” The New Yorker said.[14][141] One former employee, an African-American woman, said she was the only person of color working for the organization at the time she was hired in 2014; she then said that she was fired on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Kirk is a racist boss

Several former employees and student volunteers for Turning Point USA claimed they had witnessed collusion between high-ranking Turning Point USA employees – including Kirk himself and top advisor Ginni Thomas – and the presidential campaigns of both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. The interactions included Kirk coordinating via email with two officials at a pro-Cruz super PAC to send student volunteers to work for the PAC in South Carolina, as well as two students being requested by Thomas herself, via voicemail, to distribute over 200 Cruz placards in Wisconsin.[14] A former employee for TPUSA, who had been based in Florida, alleged that Turning Point USA had given the personal information of over 700 student supporters to an employee with Rubio’s presidential campaign.[14]

Kirk helped conservative politicians get elected through collusion

In 2021, Kirk compared Biden’s vaccination efforts to an “Apartheid-style open air hostage situation”, even though co-founder Bill Montgomery had died the previous year from COVID-related health complications.[10][156][157] The organization also made misleading claims about the dangers of catching COVID-19. Kirk’s spokesperson said they are not anti-vaxx, reiterating that “the vaccine makes logical sense for millions of Americans” but they should “have the freedom to choose”. Kirk was advocating against vaccine mandates and passports for healthy young people.[10]

Kirk is a spreader of plague

In 2017, Jane Mayer of The New Yorker described two separate actions by TPUSA staff in the 2016 election that appear to have violated campaign finance regulations.[14] Kirk denied any wrongdoing and said it was “completely ludicrous and ridiculous that there’s some sort of secret plan”.[14] TPUSA attorney Sally Wagenmaker refuted allegations of campaign finance irregularities in an article published by ProPublica in July 2020, stating that “payments to businesses belonging to organization officials ‘provided a compelling operational benefit in Turning Point USA’s best and other interests,’ and that they were ‘in full compliance with TPUSA’s IRS-compliant conflict of interest policy.’”[165]

Kirk is in trouble with the government for tax evasion in connection with funding fascist politicians

Eating meat is mean, it’s just an example of a bad thing a lot of people do. The point is we’ve all done bad things, but we can all be redeemed if we stop doing bad things. Like eating meat.

Did my great grandpa shoot Nazis at D-day because it was popular? Was he just chasing trends?

BTW the fact that Hitler shot himself is hilarious

Because they are a cursed creature of the night, doomed to forever dine on the blood of virgins.

Oh wait, that’s vampires. And people who need meat to live are different from vampires because… Okay help me out here, what’s the difference?

Fuck yeah I’m happy Kirk is dead. He was a mass murderer, he just did it with a camera instead of a knife. I take glee in knowing his reign of terror is at an end, and I think it’s funny that he was stopped halfway through making an asinine point about transgender gun violence.

Well then if you ever ate meat, you were never a good person. But I think people can be corrupted and they can be redeemed, and people who eat meat because society encourages it can be rehabilitated.

Yeah, but psychological factors decide whether people obey and conform, as demonstrated by Milgram and Asch. Changing the situation changes whether they’ll go along with a bad system.

Systems are also made of rules, and bad rules can turn good people into bad people. That’s kind of the point of critical race theory

Hm, putting people in camps isn’t in the list of things you said. You’re saying they didn’t put people in camps?

Well I believe in the Marxian idea that economic situation causes political action, so I think people turn to radical Islam when their lives aren’t going well financially and they’re frustrated about that. So if I were a member of some theoretical communist organisation controlling China’s government, I’d apply a Marxian material analysis and find the economic drivers of radicalisation, and then institute public works projects to address them. Raise minimum wage, improve public transit, universal basic income, build affordable housing, that sort of thing. I wouldn’t lock them up and make them do labour, that’s America’s thing. Modern day China is turning into America 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

Beginning in 2017, under Xinjiang CCP Secretary Chen Quanguo,[3] the government incarcerated over an estimated one million Uyghurs without legal process in internment camps officially described as “vocational education and training centers”, in the largest mass internment of an ethnic-religious minority group since World War II.

I admit, this article does have some inaccuracies. For example, it calls the imprisonment of Uyghurs the biggest mass internment since WW2, when it’s actually the second biggest. Gaza is bigger. But broad strokes, China has been locking people up based on ethnicity, and their birth rates have dropped 20% more than the rest of the country, so they’re contributing to the destruction of a people. If this weren’t something they were responsible for, I’d say it’d be their ethical duty to distribute aid to assist in the preservation of the Uyghur people. You know, pay for free daycare so young couples can feel safer starting a family. But that sort of thing isn’t really a priority in this case, because all the government needs to do in order to not destroy a people is stop persecuting them.

China initially denied the existence of the Xinjiang internment camps and attempted to cover up their existence.[90] In 2018, after widespread reporting forced it to admit that the Xinjiang internment camps exist, the Chinese government initiated a campaign to portray the camps as humane and to deny that human rights abuses occurred in Xinjiang.

Oh wow I guess the secret camps full of racial minorities that the government tried to cover up must be nice places to live, because the same government says they are, and the government would never lie to people. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, the genocide doesn’t exist I guess.

I dunno, go argue with someone who believes the ideas you’re attributing to me. I’ve got no dog in the fight you’re having with an imaginary version of me

There are no messages in my inbox, coward. If you’re gonna harass me with feces, do it right!

Okay