No need to name names or sources.
Mine has to be some dude that insisted that advertising is a “30,000 year old technology”
God how many times have I endured variations of “Russia is just defending itself against NATO aggression.” They’ve gotten more clever about it, they tend to avoid ever stating anything outright and instead just keep asking questions to burden you as they dance around it. But it’s pretty obvious once you see a few clear lines with bait.
OP asked for non political takes, friend.
Yes this has been addressed thank you
Did you read the title of this post?
Mea culpa. Must’ve skimmed too lightly. No need to be rude about it.
Asking if you missed something isn’t rude.
They asked if I read the title. That’s a different question.
“Fahrenheit describes the level of comfort for a human. From coldest to warmest that you may experience outside.”
Best response to this is to ask whether 50°F is a comfortable room temperature.
Actually, no. The best response is no response.
As an American I used to use a variation of this phrase.
Then I decided to experimentally switch to using Celsius. Took a few weeks/months to really internalize it and stop having to do on-the-fly conversions, but honestly I love it.
It’s remarkable how useful having 0 be freezing is for weather. It makes understanding sub-freezing temperatures much easier. Which also helps reinforce what a degree Celsius means.
I wish other Americans would try it. I haven’t gone back, all my devices are still on Celsius over five years later.
Make way for empirical chad.
I might be alone on this but the freezing point of water is almost irrelevant in daily life. Any precipitation from 30°F (-1°C) to 35°F (1.5°C) results in some mix of snow/slush. Less than that and it’s snow/ice.
However if you live somewhere where they use salt as a de-icer, knowing the freezing point of saltwater (0°F, -17.7°C) is very, very important.
0 is freezing. Can’t really get much easier than that.
Why is that stupid? It’s based off salt water. You’re mostly salt water.
The arguments Fahrenheit’s defenders make are not objective, they vary from person to person. Does a hot summer’s day feel like 100%? Yes, no, maybe? For me it doesn’t, I’ve been in a sauna. Does an arbitrary distance below freezing feel like 0%? Or does 0% come earlier, i.e. once you can no longer exist without clothing?
If the defenders made arguments like “it’s neat to have 100° at body temperature” I wouldn’t say anything. But the arguments they make (see my quote) are not factual.
Oh, yeah. All temperature experience is subjective. It’s just that F is closer to “big round numbers” than C for our experiences.
Europeans shaking and crying at the realization that the difference between 70° and 75° is more obvious and meaningful than 23.11° and 23.88°
Americans shaking that 20-25C is more obvious than 68-77
Above 30 you just complain 25-30 you wear shorts 20-25 you wear whatever 15-20 you wear a t shirt and jeans 10-15 you consider a light jacket or a long sleeve 5-10 you firmly wear the light jacket or long sleeve 0-5 you bring a heavier coat Below 0 you complain
Beautiful 5 degree increments that perfectly describe what to wear in C Where with Fahrenheit you end up with weird numbers like 86 degrees
Take your scale and bump it down by 5 degrees C and you have my personal scale.
I like that scale, but Ottawa exists: can you give us the various levels of lament from 0 down to -40 or -50?
And is there a bonus wind scale to add to the suck?
I tried going pretty general with the first one but my personal is between 0 to -5 I wear a coat -5 to -10 consider gloves -10 to -15 wear gloves -15 to -20 wear heavy gloves -20 to -30 wear glasses and a buff/mask -30 to -40 add glove liners and question why I live in a place that gets this cold Haven’t gone below -40 but I imagine it’s just complaining
I don’t understand why the difference between 70 ad 75 is more obvious than 21 and 24. Can you explain it?
*Europeans, Asians, Africans, southamericans, australiaandoceanians and 23/24 of northamericans
*21.11°
It needs some adjustment. 0 is fine, but 68 should be the new 100. We shouldn’t have to exist in climates warmer than that.
Yep, there’s definitely nowhere it goes below 0 F. /s
Actually, the Persian Gulf gets above 100 regularly as well, if I have what that is in Celsius roughly correct.
Combined with the trite “Fahrenheit is for humans, celsius is for water”.
My brother in Christ. You are 70° water.
And what is a Major factor in weather? Water.
My brother in Christ
Yikes.
My brother in Satan, this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen on the fediverse. Your assumption that someone else is your brother in a superstition you were groomed into is offensive ignorant and regressive.
oh god, it’s just a saying, chillax
Never.
Can’t tell if serious.
Can’t tell if serious.
That’s how I feel about every Christian
They say they’re Christian but don’t seem to like Christ.
May our dark lord illuminate the path to enlightenment and freedom from the oppression of superstition. In his name we invoke power to ourselves, hail Satan.
Okay, so you are serious.
Dude, it’s a meme quote. And, OP is statistically very likely an atheist, since this is Lemmy.
I find it offensive
In the parlance of our time : it’s a micro-aggression
Like using “Jew” as a verb
This is lemmy shouldn’t we be more enlightened?
Bro… It’s a reference to a meme about subway sandwiches. Literally “Brother in Christ” was written over a scribbled out n word. I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.
I think you’re being a little overly heated over a meme phrase.
Maybe. All the same, I prefer to keep people’s icky superstitions from being normalized as “just meme phrases”
There used to be a lot of those that people would say that they don’t anymore.
I’m 100% allowed to hate Christianity and not want it pointed at me in any way. I’m allowed to be overly heated about it too.
In my country Christians have made my daughters the first generation of American women to have fewer rights than their mothers did.
So “my brother in Christ” is the same to me as “my brother in the acceptable oppression of others”
Fuck that shit.
Fahrenheit is cooler name than Celsius.
Disagree, ain’t nobody got time for that potatoe tumble
Someone was trying to say the Van Halen’s song “Jump” was about suicide. Despite being presented with an interview with David Lee Roth (who wrote the song) explaining what the song was about. Still think about that. Idk why. Maybe because it was like one of those conversations you have with an edgy emo kid in highschool and realize they are full of shit. Some weird nostalgia I guess
It is a song influenced by seeing a report about a suicidal jumper, but repurposing the idea into a positive one. Basically, it is saying that instead of a suicide jump someone should take a leap of faith and improve things.
People fixate on certain lyrics and kinda ignore the rest of the song.
I knew someone who swore “Hallelujah” by Leonard Cohen was a dirty song because two lines could be interpreted as innuendo.
“Hallelujah” is a song about sex — but it’s not dirty sex, it’s holy sex.
I wouldn’t say “holy.” David’s actions with Bathsheba were explicitly not holy.
Hell, I can make an innuendo with the word innuendo.
“Hallelujah” has an overt reference to the story of David & Bathsheba in the Bible, which is a story about a king watching a woman bathe and then sending her husband into an unwinnable battle so he could steal her from him.
Mixed with references to Samson and Delilah
Yeah, which was its own level of toxic, but maybe doesn’t have the super gross power imbalance?
But wait! There’s more!
Cohen is reputed to have written between 80[7] and 180[8] draft verses for “Hallelujah”—a number affected by having many versions of the same line.[9] He claimed 150 draft verses, substantiated by his notebooks containing manifold revisions and additions, and by contemporary interviews.[10] In a writing session in New York’s Royalton Hotel, Cohen is famously said to have been reduced to sitting on the floor in his underwear, filling notebooks, banging his head on the floor.
I know this because I love that song and was obsessed with it for a year or two.
That you should always keep your graphics card updated to the latest drivers, especially Nvidia
Windows or linux?
On linux I know that could cause lots of issues.
On windows I’m not aware of any reason not to keep the graphic drivers updated with nvidia.
lol, I remember when I started playing No Man’s Sky, I made a post on reddit pointing out that more recent nvidia drivers fucked up the game’s framerate big time, like, if I was standing still and moved the mouse around, the framerate would tank. With a previous driver (416 or older), the whole game was butter smooth. I kept playing with that driver until the game had an update that forced you to have newer drivers. Performance was still shit.
“Installing my driver” is a cultural relic from old Windows days where it wasn’t automatic; one needed a CD/Floppy or whatever to get your printer or ATI card working. It was good practice. Hence tons of “driver cleaner/updater” kind of shovelware exists to capitalize on that mindset.
…These days, Windows update (or the Arch/CachyOS package repos in my case) auto-update all my hardware with zero fuss. IDK why so many stray from that, unless they encounter a bug that was specifically fixed in an update.
Whatever driver Windows hands you for your nVidia/AMD card is likely to be hilariously out of date. If the driver it gives you is the one with the bug that’s bugging you, you won’t have a choice.
I do out of habit and 99% of the time it has zero downsides and occasional positives. It only borked a game and required rolling back one time that I can remember.
I have a friend who is far more careful about doing their updates because they have frequent problems. Not sure why we have such different experiences.
Usually it’s hardware difference and compatibility between components. Small pieces with subtle variations and imperfect manufacturing often create unpredictable instability.
That’s not that ridiculous. If you’re frequently playing new games at launch (probably a bad idea for different reasons), then latest drivers often contain optimizations and fixes for specific games.
Here’s a fresh one: someone called me a shitty parent because I think Americans are generally very intolerant of kids in public spaces. They flew off the handle because I said what some people call “annoying” I call “being a kid.” There are a lot of people on Lemmy who get very angry about the idea that kids might irritate them or otherwise make themselves known, and they immediately start ranting about how those parents are dog shit and the kids need to essentially be muzzled.
I have a pretty big ax to grind with all the eugenics/breeder bullshit going on in my country right now. It’s very scary and I get why people are weary of having kids. But anti-natalism is not a good look and this tendency for people to feel borderline virtuous for calling parents shitty for “not controlling their kids“ is really something to behold.
because I think
Americans are generally very intolerant of kids in public spaces.kids running around and screaming in a restaurant is fine, actuallyDon’t go to other threads and lie about your conversations, dude, they’re public!
Literally never said that. Don’t lie.
By the way this is the guy. He followed my into this thread.
Leave me alone.
I suggest you use the disengage rule.
Not a member of dbzer and I highly doubt a user who stalks my comments into other threads to harass me is going to respect it. I blocked them and am moving on.
Ok, just wanted to let you know it is an option when interacting with our users, even if you are not a db0 user.
Appreciate it. I’m going to stop responding now since I’m just getting downvoted no matter what I say.
Not going to argue about the general kid stance. Just about the “shitty parent” bit, which is also de main complain.
There are two tiers of good/bad parent. There’s the objective one, are the kids being hurt? No, then you are a good parent. Pretty easy.
But there’s a more complex one. Are your education as a parent helping to produce an adult with a series of determined characteristics? This is a lot more complex. As there’s no universal agree on what a good adult is so there cannot be a good agree on which parenting is good because it produces these type of adults.
I’d would assume that when people say “you are a shitty parent” they would me mostly saying “your education will produce an adult that I do not consider desirable in my idea of a society”. That’s subjective. Some people prefer some traits and other prefer others.
As in this general example if someone sees a kids making a lot of noise and their parents not correcting them they may say “that’s a shitty parent”. Do they think they are hurting the kids? No. They’ll just probably think that those kids will grow up to be noisy adults and they don’t like noisy adults, so they think that’s not a desirable education for a kid in their society. Nothing more. I wouldn’t take those “you are a shitty parent” in any other way.
You’re missing the issue - I know what they’re thinking, but frankly I don’t understand why people feel entitled to make that statement after simply disagreeing with one or two sentences of mine or someone else. The point is it is an extremely rude, personal attack that borders on cruel. It cannot be overstated how deeply personal that attack is and how unwarranted it almost always is.
I said “we need to be patient with kids,” they said “kids are obnoxious in public spaces,” I said “what you may consider annoying I often consider kids just being kids,” and they said “you’re a shitty parent.” Does that sound like an even remotely appropriate escalation to you? They are hardly unique in this behavior. This is basically a meme at this point on the Internet. If you say are a parent and advocate for kids at all, people just call you a shitty parent immediately. And they’re so excited to do it andget so much support in it. It’s not right.
It’s not appropriate. But don’t take it personal.
I am sensitive to noises, so I can empathize very well with people who suffer when noisy/kids people are around. It can be really debilitating and stressful. And frustrating, as there’s usually no control over that situation. So it’s usual for people to vent the extreme frustration generated by shit talking.
Maybe they have a neighbor with noisy kids and they are suffering every day because of it (as it is my case for instance). So being rude to strangers who may not have special concerns if kids/people are noisy or not is a way to vent. Not a good way, but it’s natural in most people to vent their frustration with people they assume (correctly or not) are related to their suffering.
What I mean is that noise sensibility can be a very serious issue to some people. Empathy and compassion is needed in this cases when defending anything related with noisemaking.
You are totally right that there are many reasons why people could feel that way. But like a lot of things on the Internet, I think it’s simply a behavior that is being rewarded. It’s become trendy to hate parents and kids. People basically assume you’re a breeder eugenicist republican the moment you say you love your kids or suggest that your kids should be allowed to exist in the community like everyone else.
I agree, but also I think there’s a line between “kiddo getting excited or having a hard time in a public space” vs. “this kid is being neglected by their parents in favor of phones, and/or not taught general manners and human-to-human respect” because their parents are also inconsiderate of other people.
A child having a meltdown in a grocery store, or bouncing around a park or making excited commentary at a movie theater I can easily forgive. Ignoring and letting a child run off unattended in a restaurant where a server can trip and get hurt is a problem. A kid getting antsy happens, but you also need to let them know why they should be mindful in certain environments.
That said, there needs to be more openly kid-friendly spaces in the US, since they need free space to let off energy and develop their minds freely.
Listen, I just hate kids man. It’s probably my most consistent thing since I was a kid. Fuck kids. We should just be growing adults out of a vat, it’s 2025 for fucks sake.
I have met dozens of people who have told me they hate kids throughout my life, and they have without fail been the absolute worst. I get that kids can be irritating, but hate? fuck you.
Yes. It feels like a specific kind of projection. Their subconscious reconfizes they were a shitty kid raised by a shitty parent and are still shitty people because of it and then paint that over every child because it’s what shitty people do.
Well this couldn’t be further from my truth but maybe other people are like that. I dunno. I also don’t actually hate kids, I thought my comment was evidently hyperbolic bu I guess not.
I’m being hyperbolic, if the last bit about growing people out of a vat didn’t make that clear enough.
You do you but I don’t imagine that translates into you calling random people “shitty parents” when they disagree lol
I remember that one. It was a weird thread. We had people saying they let their kids poop on the floor, and others that only let their kids out of their cages for special occasions.
Of course, those were exaggerations of the extremes, but it got very heated.
The “poop on the floor” thing is unfortunately a reality of potty training but that shouldn’t happen in public spaces, nor have I ever heard or witnessed that lol
Here’s a great response to any parent who gets the “You must be a shitty parent” line.
“And you ARE a shitty person”
Not just kids, a lot of adults are annoying as hell too.
But Kids should be free to learn so for me it feels like they are allowed/have the right to be annoyingYou’d be amazed how many people are not patient with that learning process. And they always cite the same caricature. Some dude told me he has issues with “kids at bars” and “candlelit dinners.” What the fuck is he even on about?
Yeah, the two are usually (though not always) correlated. Annoying adults have annoying kids that grow up to be annoying adults, and the cycle continues.
But Kids should be free to learn so for me it feels like they are allowed/have the right to be annoying
That is a fantastic perspective.
I would guess many people on here have done the research but have little experience with the actions necessary to conceive
depending on context, I could easily support either side of this argument.
on the one hand, people overreact too much.
on the other hand, children are often unpleasant to be around.
On a third hand, people in general are often unpleasant to be around, children are just different kinds of unpleasant.
Setting also matters. Playing and screaming in a park? probably fine. playing and screaming in a library? those kids have bad parents.
Sir, where did you get a third hand. Grave robbing and necromancy is illegal around here.
Tho I do very much agree with what you have on said third hand.
Sir, where did you get a third hand
uuhhhhh, glory to the four-armed emperor?
Libraries have sections for kids man. Most people adhere to it. You (Royal you) can’t let theoreticals/rare cases inform your feelings on these issues.
Divorced of context, I 100% agree. However, I don’t think you’ve engaged with my point. There are settings in which it is simply NOT ok for children to be playing and screaming, full stop. “but what about-” No, you’ve changed the setting and now we’re not talking about the same thing anymore.
But who ever said kids should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want? This feels a bit strawman to me. No one is advocating for that, certainly not me.
Kids are going to be on your public transit, your airplanes, on sidewalks, at pizza shops, etc. and people need to not just accept but embrace them. They are a part of your community, just like any other person. If being an inconvenience or annoying was an acceptable reason for people to reject you, then we’d have a lot bigger issues (than we already have) with the elderly, people with autism, people in wheel chairs, etc. No one gets mad when the bus takes an extra bit of time to help someone with a disability get settled. Yes an infant may cry or scream in public. They do that.
But who ever said kids should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want?
You did. Not directly of course, but a reader can easily tell that this is your opinion based on your interactions with me and others here in this thread.
Either that or you don’t want to be held accountable for the actions of your children.
Well apparently it’s not that easy to tell because that is not what I believe at all. So are you going to actually ask me what I think are you going to keep smugly telling me what my opinions are as a parent?
Actually don’t bother responding unless the last word is that important to you. You clearly have an ax to grind and you’re being an asshole. Have a good one.
Well apparently it’s not that easy to tell because that is not what I believe at all. So are you going to actually ask me what I think are you going to keep smugly telling me what my opinions are as a parent?
Actually don’t bother responding unless the last word is that important to you. You clearly have an ax to grind and you’re being an asshole. Have a good one.
I genuinely laughed at this. Countdown until the above is deleted by creator? This comment exists to preserve yours.
There are legitimate reasons not not want to use or not be able to use Linux.
Calling the very real privacy issues presented by windows as a “conspiracy theory” is not one of them.
Also these people are delusional. They don’t understand why the steam deck is popular because quote “the main appeal of PC Gaming is modding and using a Keyboard and Mouse.” Which is a bold claim because I thought the point was having better control over what you play instead of hoping Microsoft, Nintendo, and PlayStation release those games on chosen console.
Do these people have an idea how many Stardew Valley Clones I can play on PC that will never touch an Xbox?
But some of the posts are hilarious lmao
I use Mint btw
Wow, are we the baddies? This guy must have a really bad time in the Linux communities.
Kinda unironically: yes.
Linux is great for some use cases and at least decent for most others but what I’ve experienced in some Linux communities made me understand why people don’t feel welcome. In a thread literally titled “Help me like desktop Linux” that listed a few things I was struggling with, I got hit with a bunch of “you’re an idiot for not using the exact same distro that I like”, “works on my machine” and “you want the wrong things”. Even as someone who already had over a decade of Linux server experience, that almost made me turn around and walk away.
I’m sorry you had that experience.
For some reason some Linux users are strict and preachy about it instead of treating it like a piece of software/environment just like any other.
Aside from that, it’s just good practice to be kind to others and explain things to new (and not new) users in a reasonable way.
Hopefully you find a solution that works for you (for whatever OS you choose).
Yes, that’s true, sometimes bug research pointed me to the arch Linux forums, and I was like: never ever I post one of my noob questions there. But that’s not all. Its just one point of view.
The skill level differences with Linux are huge. And people that wrote great wikis are sometimes frustrated if they get asked things they already explained elsewhere.
Linux is confusing for beginners, never forget this fact and be kind.
I seem to already have it blocked
went there and down-voted everything
If you sort by top, there are some quite funny ones.
wow the ratio on those posts
And it’s not even satire, the dude generally has a hate boner for Linux.
I remember him somehow managing to get banned by his autoban-bot on that community
Any time any user comments the word “based” to the most normal and reasonable shit ever.
Based has lost all meaning.based
Slides a $5 bill and smirks
10BASE-T
Most people don’t even know what its supposed to mean
Yeah, i really just need to accept that at this point it means “lmao that’s crazy” or just “lol true”.
Shit bothers me tho.
I think it’s just become like a slightly edgy way of agreeing
In posts like this and elsewhere, commenters kept claiming the noun female to refer to a human is generally derogatory or offensive.
Someone wrote
Occasionally my partner does or says some things that remind me of the “manosphere” aka 4chan neckbeards.
A perfect example was that he sometimes says “females” when he means “women”. I explain that it’s not a swear word but it’s still derogatory. I explain why. Once I did, he understood and stopped doing it.
Despite abundant evidence here (search females), in classifieds, personals & online equivalents (eg, ads that limit eligibility to females), or text corpus searches revealing that the noun female referring to humans is often non-derogatory, so it all depends on the context, they’d insist that usage of the word itself is offensive, insulting, or disrespectful. They didn’t seem to consider that promoting new sexist framings (ie, female is a dirty word) for wider adoption in our language serves sexists more than anything, and it might make more sense to resist that.
Outside of a purely descriptive term of the biological differences between the sexes, that is derogatory.
It is often used to dehumanize women, as the term is mostly used when talking about animals.
Often used to dehumsnise women… Where?
Anywhere biggots congregate, incels often use it to degrade women.
Let’s ban all words then, in that case.
So you didn’t look at the
abundant evidence here (search females), in classifieds, personals & online equivalents (eg, ads that limit eligibility to females), or text corpus searches revealing that the noun female referring to humans is often non-derogatory
did you?
Why would I?
You cite no source for what you write as if it was fact.
The fact that you try to make it look like scientific language tells me that you actually know why the term is derogatory, and you doubling down makes me think you argue in bad faith.
Confirmed: couldn’t even search females in lemmy. Disregards common classified ads. Claims “bad faith”.
Searching random websites is anecdotal, not actual statistics
Same applies to your counterclaim.
The fact remains that counterexamples to your claim are common, which wouldn’t be expected if the conventional meaning were derogatory.
Here’s an example quoting a story in the news:
“What if I would have been armed,” she said. “You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. […]"
So your claim is that by referring to her daughters as females, this mother is insulting them?
While I might be able to argue in “bad faith”, the unsolicited speech productions of the community do not. Do you want more examples?
I see no link to a study or anything, so nothing new
Feeeeeeeeeemales?! UGH!!!
Aristotle was a professor wrestler who started a math cult that hated beans. He is best known for having developed the intercept theorem and diverting the Halys river.
It’s all true, but I can’t prove it
So just a mix and match of partial truths about multiple Ancient Greek philosophers?
I know Plato was the first one and Pythagoras was the second. I don’t remember the other two though. What made it absurd was the sheer confidence it was delivered with.
I once got accused of having a corporate shill account after explaining how coupons work.
Man was whingeing about paying full price for Domino’s and got pissed at me when I pointed out they didn’t use the 2 for 7 deal that takes up half their homepage.
Some people just can’t admit they fucked up XD
You can’t say you like literally any product on the internet otherwise people call you a corporate shill. It’s frustrating because people sometimes like things…that’s just the nature of life in general. Sometimes you like something that was made by a company and not just already existing in nature…
Reminds me though…I recently got called a “Russian bot” by someone on Lemmy recently. I was super confused because the content of the conversation had nothing to do with Russia or the war or Russian viewpoints or anything. It was so out of left field that I had no idea what they were talking about.
Whatever the hell this conversation was:
Transcript:
Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That’s completely idiotic, production exist because there’s demand for it.
commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it’s production?
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?
commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there’s a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?
friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?
commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I’m trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.
friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they’re not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there’s no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don’t have infinite resources
commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That… must be the dumbest discussion I’ve had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you’re sober
commie, ↑1 ↓1: I’ve been sober all day.
friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say
commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I’ve said is true. you’re objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.
friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you’re just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It’s simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won’t consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won’t produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won’t elaborate what your actual point is anyway.
Also, not that it matters, but you’re arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.
I remember this one. And I remember being fucking incensed at the level of abject stupidity it involved.
by far the best here
Unfortunately, it fails the thread, as it is political.
how though
They are arguing about market fundamentals, which means at least one of them is actually arguing “capitalism bad”, which is political.
The very basics of dairy cows being an artificial result of ingrained demand… is too simple to be political.
Even a pure communist designed and ran economy would have to deal with supply and demand, and would almost certainly also produce dairy cows…
Having read through the other comments I think this is the winner. This person needs to read a book. What a wild hill to die on.
Average Lemmy economist.
One of the first argument I’ve got myself into was returning the shopping cart to the designated spot. This person was replying to like 5 people at once justifying why they don’t always return the cart, because the weather is hot and the corral is far, etc. while we disapproved.
Got some reddit argument PTSD from that lol
I suspect that person would also justify littering in order to “ensure street cleaners don’t lose their jobs”
Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Take this empty glass. Here it is, peaceful, serene and boring. But if it is [Pushes glass off table] destroyed…
Robot cleaners move to clean broken glass
Look at all these little things. So busy now. Notice how each one is useful. What a lovely ballet ensues, so full of form and color.
Now, think about all those people that created them. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people who’ll be able to feed their children tonight so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny weeny children of their own, and so on and so forth. Thus, adding to the great chain…of life.
I started an argument like that once. I made a joke about how there is literally always at least one person who defends not putting the cart back.
Only reason to not put it back is when you don’t wanna fight the homeless person bringing it back for you to keep the deposit coin.
Or when you’re drunk, going downhill with friends, crash and total it and take it home to make a grill out of it.
I don’t put the cart back because the workers at my grocery store keep telling me not to
To be fair I walk with a limp and a cane and hobbling back to my car is more of a pain then just popping the front of the cart up and hitching it on the planters. So it doesn’t roll into someone.
The workers there know me well and I show up 10 mins before closing on my way to work every day to get a snack for work.
Yeah I think that pretty clearly falls under extenuating circumstances
I didn’t think not returning a trolly was something worth defending 😂.
The only defence is “I’m a dickwad”. And I’d accept that if they owned it and we could verbally abuse them for being a dick, for only like 10 minutes after every episode.
They weren’t defending that, the argument was whether someone who doesnt return a trolley is a bad person or not. Some people argued it was a trivial thing that meant nothing either way, some argued it meant they were evil, and some argued in the middle somewhere.
it’s a low stakes indicator.
someone who doesn’t return their cart isn’t automatically a bad person, but rather is more likely to be a bad person than someone who does return their cart.
people are lazy and in a hurry, so will often not say the full long version, and this applies to many things people often say. People then get “um actually” about it because the short version is technically wrong.
I used to not take my cart in, but I worked at Walmart at the time and pushed carts for them when needed. I didn’t mind doing it all, and didn’t care where anyone left their carts. Now that I’ve been at a better job for a while I put them up. Don’t want to be out of touch with Cary pushing.
Skee boo wee CART NARC 🚨
Lmao I think I remember that one! Big Cart has a network of Lemmy shills, trust no one. 🕵♂️
Shopping cart theory strikes again
The shopping cart argument is a great place to start managing the human race. And I don’t mean in a binary manner - let’s just start with those who never bother returning the cart. To a startlingly large majority, they tend to demonstrate traits that are wholly incompatible with a polite and empathetic society.
That all small business owners are thieves and out to scam their customers - This was part of someone’s argument defending big box stores.
I mean I kind of assume all business owners are, though small business owners don’t have that shit baked in like megacorps.
Using 100% free and open source software is more important than actually getting your work done.
In a thread about Affinity Photo where someone insisted that we should all use gimp and just not edit photos if gimp doesn’t have the features we need rather than asking Serif to port their software to Linux.
Also in several threads about migrating from Windows to Linux where every missing or complicated feature was brushed away with “just get used to not being able to do it, even if it’s critical to your workflow”.
It’s always good to use FOSS where possible.
If it isn’t possible for you, then don’t. Perhaps try advocating for the FOSS alternatives to be better and drive up competition, forcing the software you do use to innovate.
That is 10,000% people who don’t do creative work especially professionally. I am fine with gimp and darktable versus anything Adobe/paid but I also barely use them lol. I would be back off Linux in a heartbeat if I honestly couldn’t use something I needed even though I prefer it.
Medical work, too. Several exam machines only work with Windows. I’ve heard once that “wine’s pretty good nowadays”, which completely ignores the detail that it isn’t tested with said equipment and its drivers.
Anything related to engineering, whether civil or mechanical, also goes with either Windows or Mac, because the free CAD options don’t hold a candle to AutoCAD and others.
Lastly, there’s no FOSS alternative to completely replace Microsoft Active Directory, so offices where 90% of the work is done on the web browser won’t bother because they’ll be losing control over individual machines.
There’s so much focus on “me” and “freedom” that they often forget there’s a whole damn world of different needs around them.
CAD options also flow over to the whole GPU debate as well. Yes, Nvidia’s company practices are awful. Yes, I’d love to have more options. But this doesn’t change that most of the heavyweight CAD options out there don’t play well with non-Nvidia GPUs.
I’d love it if there were FOSS / GPU-agnostic CAD options. But until then, focusing on what works is important, y’know?
I could go on for days about the problems with medical devices. I write software for one of those at my day job and as much as our team would love to port the software to something other than Windows, that would be a logistical nightmare.
The thunderbolt connection alone can break because of a thousand factors, even on the exact combination of hardware and operating system it was tested with. Processing of medical images is often very GPU-heavy which gives us the same problems as with CAD software.
Even if you get all the technical problems out of the way, medical devices need to be certified before you’re allowed to use them for diagnostics. This often includes an exact specification of the platform you run the software on. If you just take something that’s certified for “Windows 10 between 20H2 and 22H2, Intel or AMD CPU, device driver version 8.1.23” and try to run it on Wine, I would expect the American FDA, German TÜV and Chinese NMPA to fight over who gets to kick your door in first. It might be possible to get a certification for a Linux version but probably only for one specific combination of distribution, display server and desktop environment.
I agree with this, outside of bs windows throws if you change the motherboard. Desktop Linux stability reminds me of Windows 7 levels of OS stability. Great for most, not for mission critical.
With that said i feel you are being overtly critical to FOSS CAD software. I use FreeCAD in a professional setting and it is extremely stable, and for my use case it is as capable with no missing features. Yes the software isn’t beginner friendly, but I honestly found it made my designs more accurate since it had more constraints for sketches.
What were you using BEFORE FreeCAD if it has MORE sketch constraints?? Man, I found it so limiting compared to NX. Especially the sketching. And surfacing appeared to be basically nonexistent. Maybe I’m too spoiled with NX, but I dont think I could function for even a day on FreeCAD. It’s worse than SolidWorks (and I hate SolidWorks). I really, really wanted to like it. I even gave it a second chance when 1.0 dropped.
Fusion 360 and before that Google Sketchup
Ah, ok. I’ve been using NX since it was still Unigraphics, so I am admittedly biased. I haven’t tried any of the newer things like Fusion or Sketchup. Might I ask what industry you use FreeCAD for at a professional level? Just curiosity. I’m automotive interiors tooling, so I’m pretty dependent on strong surfacing tools. Lots of A-surface stuff.
Also, how would you model this up in FreeCAD? This took me about 15 minutes in NX, with one sketch and some offset curves. I was making a 3D printed tag for my daughter.
I tried for over two hours in FreeCAD, but only got this far. I could not extrude individual bodies from one sketch, I had to make separate sketches for each shape. Offset curves didn’t appear to be a thing, and I couldn’t find any form of synchronous modeling tools. So, making those raised outlines was a whole other challenge. I ended up having to extrude a sheet taller than the main body, then thicken it. I couldn’t figure out how to select face edges for use in other commands, either. I ended up giving up.
I use freecad for mainly functional 3D Prints, many of which I sell on Etsy and eBay. You can see my designs here: https://www.printables.com/@16bitvirtual/models
As for how to do yourbunny. For the most part, you are falling into the biggest hurdle for FreeCAD. FreeCAD has constructing geometry which cannot interfere with the model. But it also means that if you aren’t very specific with your design it will fail. For example with the Bunny you need to define in your sketch what you’d like to pad or pocket out.
Then you work on adding details
The constructor lines are why I love FreeCAD since in other software I had to be very specific on what I can add without voids being accidentally added into my model.
I’d call this political as well
Thinking there’s such a thing as “non-political”
I took the most diarrhoeal of diarrhoeal shits this morning. I’d like to see you make this political.
Easy! Why do you think it happened? Inadequate food regulation? Underfunded healthcare? Insufficient regulation of pollutants that can impact health and cause chronic disease?
I don’t know your individual circumstances, but given the state of the world right now, I’d bet it’s a combination of all three.
