• Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
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    Trump needs a bunch of people willing to believe anything told to then and the religious crowd seems to have an endless appetite for rage inducing bullshit.

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          Religion is a control mechanism draped in fake moral superiority. People don’t need to believe in fairy tales to distinguish right from wrong. The evidence of those that do believe in fairy tales and can’t tell right from wrong is overwhelming.

          ETA: In fact, I would argue that anyone that thinks they need some holy book or religious leader to tell them what’s right and what’s wrong has a serious problem.

          • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Seriously. Anyone who says that without religion society would be rampant crime such as rape and murder is immediately suspect. They’re especially claiming that they’d be out there raping and murdering except their religion keeps them in check. When’s the last time you heard of an atheist committing horrible crimes? Stalin and Mao? We know that morality exists outside of a religious cage.

            And for all Stalin did, Putin has more power than ever, partially because he brought religion back.

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          Religion can also be a WEAPONIZED moral code. And America has had a history of weaponizing it’s idea of morality. So nothing new here, just more extreme.

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    Nah, first Amendment trump’s Trump, regardless of his bullshit, he’s a citizen. He can hold an opinion, just like that can be a dead fucking wrong opinion.

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    All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what’s coming next, just look at their website.

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      I’ve been warning people about the setup to martial law. That’s the final step of project 2025 that officially and completely destroys democracy. There will be no going back and no voting in the future. I keep being called an alarmist, but I was called an alarmist in late 2015 when he announced his run. It’s also perfectly spelled out and they’ve been doing every project 2025 has step by step.

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      Just wait until they start banning porn. It’s already started in some states tbh.

      Canada almost had the same thing happen, but thankfully Poilievre didn’t win PM, and even lost his seat too as a bonus.

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    …to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.”

    Right, so this will be a group who will make sure that any other religious will disappear, and soon. Atheisrs will as soon as possible be persecuted

    Tell me I’m wrong and why.

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    Yesterday I watched the documentary “Hail Statan?”, about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

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    Lmao this dickhead who probably can’t recite a single Bible verse.

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    This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia’s entry on Separation of church and state:

    Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

    In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, “wall of separation between church and state”, as written in Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

    Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

    The metaphor “a wall of separation between Church and State” used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson’s collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

    As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it’s like to be “forced” to believe in something you don’t.

    Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don’t go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

    I don’t give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that’s their own business. I’ve had people try to shove their religion on me and it’s not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

    This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

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      Pro tip: he doesn’t give a shit about the rest of what’s in the 1st either. (Freedom of religion, speech, and the press)

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    Religion is more powerful in countries with low education standards.

    With the US government actively dismantling its education system, this is part of that bigger picture of wanting a dumber population so they’re more easily controlled - through fear.

    A shame to see America go so regressive so quickly.

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    I am a religious person even and this is insane. Do these people not read the Good Book? Trump is clearly the antichrist. And still all these chodes have… simp-pathy for the devil (because they simp so hard. I tried really hard to make that joke work this is the best I can do.)

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    there’s a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is… uhh … a really special form of religious virtue…

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      Easy to forget that Bush and Reagan also had these Faith Based Initiative and religious themed cabinet positions. And they were also primarily about funneling state money to religious demagogues. And then Clinton/Obama kept them around because they didn’t want to offend the religious extremists.

      The large network of Crisis Intervention Centers that effectively exist to abuse young people with poor grades, substance abuse issues, and non-conforming gender/sexual preferences were all originally bankrolled by Reagan/Bush Era pilot programs and church kickbacks.

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      Leaning into grifting. Like always. He is just dipping into the Christian side of the grift.

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      Only a matter of time until he declares himself Holy Roman Emperor. And silly me was under the impression, he’s trying to emulate an entirely different era of German history.

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      I wish had no scruples because then I could sell people angels for $1,000

      I love how the most devout Christians are always always complete shitheads

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        Given the shitheads who’d actually buy that crap, I’d say this is one group of people to scam the shit out of without fear of compromising one’s scruples.

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            They’re going to send their money off to scammers anyway. Might as well redirect it somewhere were it won’t be used by straight up evil people doing straight up evil shit.

            I’m also not sure how much I believe in their “victim” status. I was raised in a conservative Southern Baptist household in Mississippi, and I figured out that stuff was bullshit after a few Sunday School sessions.

            • I figured out that church was bullshit at a young age too. I was raised in West Virginia in shitty schools. We were still victims, even though we had the luck of being born perceptive enough to limit our victimization. Imagine if all the wasted hours we spent in school and church, we were learning instead.

              I had a science teacher in fifth grade who was a preacher as well. When we got to evolution all he had to say was “If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys, ever think about that?” And refused to teach the material. We skipped it.

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                Ugh, I had a biology teacher who was very similar. We briefly went through what the textbook had to say on evolution, then spent the next week or so watching stupid videos of this nutjob ranting about how current species with symbiotic relationships couldn’t have evolved separately or some drivel. Knowing what I know now about my rights as a student in a public school, I wish I could go back just for the opportunity to tell him I’d be doing my own independent study time in the library during his class periods while he was showing his blatantly illegal proselytizing propaganda.

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    Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

    Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

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      “Religious liberty commission”

      For some reason as a Jewish person I get the strong feeling that this commission wont help me freely practice my religion.

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          Also, even though the deluded right wing like to claim that “secularism is a religion”, and same for liberalism or any other ism they are skeered of, they won’t be letting anyone practice those, either.

          Meaning: free thought will be a thoughtcrime.