• Matt3999@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I once sent a thick telephone book with “Return to Sender - not at this address” on it after receiving mail addressed the previous house owner. This was after receiving their junk mail over several years and returning it with the same message scribbled on the envelope. This tactic finally worked and stopped the junk mail coming.

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      This must’ve been a long time ago. Otherwise where would you find a phone book, let alone a thick one.

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        Steady on Satan, they’re only a credit card company! They’re bad, but not that bad!

    • ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Would take a little bit of doing, but rig the box flaps to a platform inside the box, then pour all the glitter on that, so that opening the box raises the platform and dumps all the glitter.

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        Rather than a platform, I’ve been wondering if you could rig it so opening the box opens some holes on the bottom, so they think they dodged the worst of it, pick it up to dispose of it and get a desk full from underneath.

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      Nah. That would piss off the mailroom employees, but they don’t control who gets sent mail. The weight costing money does hurt the people who make the marketing decisions, though.

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        But they also work for the bad company, so my sympathy is limited. Not super limited, else I wouldn’t point out that they’re inevitably hourly employees, and a long day cleaning glitter creates an annoying backlog that creates even more overtime.
        Punishing the worker for working for spammers, but also putting money in their pocket at the cost of the people making choices.

        Biggest issue is the cost of glitter. Easier to get dirt or rocks.

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            “these days”? I take it you weren’t paying attention during the whole “explorative credit” thing? We had to make the consumer financial protection bureau to, amongst other things, make them be a little less shitty? The bureau they’ve been desperately trying to get dismantled because it moderately limits their profits?

            Have they ever been better than “kinda bad” at best?

            Anyway, I didn’t specifically decry credit issuers. I implied that spammers are shitty, which I stand by and is far from a new sentiment.

      • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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        nah doesnt just piss them off… it now confettis the mailroom which guarantees a janitors employment. this is how you generate low skill labor jobs! its a win win.

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        That’s a fair observation, but I assume they’re trained to deal with suspicious packages safely, and that stuff will get transfered throughout the whole building and make everyone’s lives that bit more ‘special’. It’ll still hit the bottom line too.

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    I used to get a ton of garbage mail at an apartment i lived at. I’d just take as many of the coupon booklets from my box, jam them into one of those return envelops, and stuff it back into the outgoing mail box.

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    IF you’re going to do this, make sure use some sort of sealed package (like the box in the photo). You used to be able to slap these things on like a sheet of plywood and just send it as is but now if the package isn’t sealed and is obvious misuse the post office can just throw it in the dumpster. If its a sealed package then the post office has to deliver it and the permit holder has to pay the charges. https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2019/pb22525/html/updt_001.htm

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        Considering the density of neutronium, a 70 lb piece would be about the size of a dust mote, if not much smaller. Good luck getting a standard box to hold something that small and dense.

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          The joke here is that neutronium might be the only substance dense enough to actually weigh 70lbs and still be able to fit into a flat rate box, which has set dimensions and a limit of 70lbs.

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      If it wasn’t shitty towards the post office people O would support it.

      But under 10 lbs…

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        Sadly we have a weight and size limit on these, but if you can load a mini fridge and keep it under 70lbs it should be accepted.

        Legally this is not shipping advice and purely a shitpost

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          There is no way that those prepaid postage meant for a letter is gonna be good for 70lb.
          The postal service has to have lower cost options

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            That’s the business’ risk for sending those prepaid envelopes out. From the USPS site itself “[Moreover, when a BRM card or envelope is misused and affixed to a sealed item, the permit holder will be responsible for payment of the applicable Retail postage and per piece fee.]

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              But it also says

              DMM 505.1.4.8, “Labels,” states that in cases when a BRM card or envelope is misused as a BRM label, USPS® treats the item as waste.
              BRM cards and envelopes are designed to be mailed as a First-Class Mail card, letter, or flat only, and not as a BRM label to be attached to other items.

              So I’m still a but fuzzy

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                So I’m still a butt fuzzy

                Weird self-deprecating thing to say, and not sure how it relates, but best wishes with that!

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            They’re actually not prepaid, they’re counted as postage due at the destination office and either charged to their account automatically or paid at the time of pickup.

            There are lower cost options like nonprofit or third class postage, but that’s usually what they’re paying to send out the junk with these business reply envelopes in the first place. Business reply mail AFAIK is charged at the first class postage rates.

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              I know it’s not technically prepaid.

              But it’s wild that the postal service wouldn’t have an option here to only accept letters.

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                Probably one of those cases where it’s only allowed because there’s no rule specifically forbidding it, and some determined individual figured out it worked one day.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me if one slipped through, there are overrides on stuff that get rejected and USPS is a massive organization with millions of parcels moving at any given moment.

      This idea came from people mailing wooden shims back to the credit card companies because it would increase the postage cost over the normal weight… Please don’t do that though. Letters go through a Dr. Seuss Esque sorter system and the shims are too sturdy and sometimes get ripped out of the mail and shot across the facility…

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          Feel free to stuff as much paper as you can fit, it’s just wood, plastics and the like that are too rigid for the machines to handle sometimes. USPS gets money for return mailing, so it’s a benfit to them as long as shims or pieces of plastic arent flying around the facility like a bullet.

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      No, this is fake. You can put whatever you want in the envelope and send it back, but they won’t deliver a whole package. They only prepaid postage for a letter.

      Of course if you send something dangerous/threatening you might get arrested.

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      Why? I don’t care if they know I sent it. Maybe they’ll be less likely to fuck with me any more.

      Of course I haven’t checked my mail since 2020 when I got a stimulus check. I don’t even have an ID showing my address anymore. It’s still my old house

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    Friendly reminder.

    Make sure that you use a box with no identifying information. Scribbling out the barcodes isnt enough.

    Mailing restrictions still apply. Mailing them back rotting fish or potentially hazardous materials is a federal offence.

    Mailing any kind of threat is also against the law.

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      If you’re concerned about your anonymity, keep in mind that companies frequently put ID numbers on their return envelopes to help match the returned mail piece with your record in their database. Sometimes the number is invisible (UV ink) so it doesn’t look “mass produced” to the recipient.

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      Doesn’t help when you use a return postage slip. They have unique codes. Being “just annoying” is probably the safest bet.

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      For putting some crap in a box, taping on a flyer, and then lying on the internet?

      You don’t actually think this happened, do you? Why would the post office ship a heavy package for free just because a no postage needed flyer is stuck to it?

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          Also weirdly accepts the premise of the story then calls it a lie. Like at least have some narrative cohesion in your snark, people, it’s not hard.

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          I’m sorry that it came off as condescending. Truly, that was not the intent. Tone is difficult over text, but I was more going for an incredulous sarcasm that beckoned critical thinking.

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            incredulous sarcasm that beckoned critical thinking.

            That would be where the condescending tone comes from. If you don’t want to come off as condescending, don’t do that.