• Robust Mirror@aussie.zone
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      11 days ago

      I don’t think you know the meaning of “has to”. The law, including the constitution, isn’t any more “real” than money. It only exists because enough people agree it does and follow it.

      The fact people have literally already been deported without trial proves they don’t “have to”.

      • Fiki_Fiki@lemmynsfw.com
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        10 days ago

        Trump and his lackeys also figured out that it’s easier to do something illegal and wait for courts to catch up than to try to get greenlighted beforehand

  • andrewta@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    So due process is no longer a thing.

    Got it.

    Hey Maga when Trump turns this on you and you piss and moan about no due process… My response will be this

    🖕

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      He didn’t. But the guy who did already knew you’d blame him. This old turtle of a man knew it he denied nearly all Obama judicial appointments no one would come after him. They’d just blame Obama. No one gets how the government works and they blame the president for anything and everything.

      • Gina@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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        11 days ago

        George Soros! Why is a billionaire manipulating the government?

  • badbrainstorm@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    12 days ago

    Yeah, Elon and Bezos really need that money for important things. Like to fake sending plastic millionaires into space

      • badbrainstorm@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Idk for sure. It just seemed off. Like, it seemed like a big PR stunt. No pressurized suits or helmets, for a bunch of old ass siliconed up ladies, with no astronaut training. No frizzy zero g hair. Video of one of them falling down in zero g… The video of it landing at like twenty five miles per hour, and kicking up a ton of dust and then immediately after the ground shot with no dust still in sight. Then they opened the door early and then shut it, so Bezos could come open it with his special tool. And the door opened inward, as opposed to outwards like every other spacecraft or airplane designed to withstand that kind of pressure… I don’t understand what the purpose of faking it would be, and it seems stupid and conspiratorial, but it all just reaked of bullshit

        • JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml
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          11 days ago

          a bunch of old ass siliconed up ladies, with no astronaut training

          That’s because they’re not astronauts, they’re space tourists. You don’t need to train someone how to fly a rocket when the only machine they’re controlling is their seat belts.

          No pressurized suits or helmets

          That’s because the cabin remains pressurized and oxygenated.

          And the door opened inward, as opposed to outwards like every other spacecraft or airplane designed to withstand that kind of pressure

          That’s probably because they didn’t need to open the door in space, unlike almost every other spacecraft. It’s actually more secure to have it open inward when the pressure inside is higher than the pressure outside, since the pressure difference pushes the door closed rather than pushing it open.

  • ButteryNickel@lemmy.wtf
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    12 days ago

    Then we should reform our immigration policy so we can tax them right? That’s the only carrot on a stick I think they conservatives might take.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      They do pay taxes. This weird myth that immigrants somehow all work live and work in the US for free is silly. They pay income tax if they work, they pay sales tax when they buy things, they pay property tax if they own a home or help someone financially who does.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      11 days ago

      Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you. And even then, that might not protect you.

      • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Won’t work. That kind of evidence would be presented at a trial. For your average ICE agent, your documentation, and lack of criminal record makes it obvious that you have ties to a powerful street gang who is hiding your crimes.

        This is literally what ICE has argued in the past few months.

        • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Yeah. They literally said that that the lack of evidence is actually the evidence, and that it is proof of a hyperintelligent criminal who has lead a life of crime without ever being caught. And that is why they have no criminal records… because they are criminals who haven’t been caught yet!

      • Venia Silente@lemm.eeEnglish
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        11 days ago

        ICE agents don’t know nor care to know how to read, let alone how to ask for a passport.

        If you are approached suspiciously by men in black, have your gun at the ready.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you.

        Won’t save you from an ICE that’s happy to tear them up and deport you anyway. This isn’t a legalist regime. Residential “legality” is just a talking point to justify totalitarianism.

        If you believe a piece of paper is going to be a shield against a bunch of thugs with guns, you’re going to be in for a hard and sharp awakening when people you know and love end up on the next round of deportation lists.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Better still, avoid travelling in the US and hope the Americans can reclaim their country from Trump and his merry band of fascists.

      • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        11 days ago

        I haven been to the US since the end of 2019.

        I’m a citizen, but live abroad with my wife. I will be visiting my family this fall and I’m so happy my birth certificate is here. I’m totally bringing it with me just to be safe.

        • DicJacobus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Is your wife from a background that could be remotely linked to something “bad” by crazy radicals?

          that basically boils down to being from any part of the world that constitutes as Brown, Socialist, Controlled by China, or Controlled by Europe, in the Radical’s view.

          • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            11 days ago

            She’s not joining me on the trip. We debated about it while Biden was still in office and mainly decided that I’d just be catching up with friends and family and her getting a visa and a plane ticket is too costly and time consuming.

            After current events, it was a no brainer.

      • Humanius@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        You should probably also make sure to have a copy at home in case they take it from you

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Key words there being “it wants to deport”.

    The problem isn’t the trials, it’s the selection criteria.

  • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    11 days ago

    The US CAN, you fucking asswipe. You don’t WANT to.

    You are like a petulant child, only caring about what you want, you narcissistic prick.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Holding trial for the millions of people Trump wants to deport runs the very real and obvious possibility that not all the judges will rubber-stamp the deportations. In fact, you might start running into judges who deliberately obstruct the process because they have a visceral disgust for the practice of mass deportation.

      Can’t have that, because the goal is to ethnically cleanse the country. Once Trump decides deporting people to El Salvadorian death camps is too difficult / expensive, we’re going to start seeing them spring up all over the interior of the country as well.

  • dan1101@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Add it to the list of impeachable charges, we will give orange man a trial regardless.

    • Coreidan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Imagine impeachment actually being relevant.

      You forgot his first term didn’t you? Lol

      • dan1101@lemm.ee
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        11 days ago

        Articles of Impeachment need to be filed every week, add to the list of charges each time because there is plenty new every week.

        • n1ckn4m3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Records don’t mean shit when the ruling party is actively destroying records of things they don’t like. History is written by the victors, and it’s happening in real-time right now.

        • Venia Silente@lemm.eeEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Wow! Imagine all the grandstanding that people will do with “records of what happened” while hoping that people vote differently next time!

          • Anti_Iridium@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            11 days ago

            I don’t have all the answers, but isn’t it obvious if the choice is Impeachment without removal vs no Impeachment? And the whole without removal isn’t even guaranteed.

            • Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world
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              11 days ago

              how about we just skip all that and have the leftists in this country grow a pair and do the right thing?

  • Sciaphobia@lemm.eeEnglish
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    11 days ago

    That’s such a coincidence. Some guillotining could be done without trials too!

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      “THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

      ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

  • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    As someone outside the US, I was told that people were very keen on keeping lots of guns to react in case the government tried to pull this kind of shit. When’s the part where they react?

    I’m sarcastic; I know why it isn’t happening, and realistically it would be a terrible thing, but, you know, we’re living in the weirdest time.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 days ago

    I knew it - to the qons, the Constitution is just something they like to talk about, but don’t really care about.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Lol.

    America the brave is sitting by while a fat, orange felon rapist shits on our Constitution and tanks our economy.