Nelson Peltz, the activist investor agitating to win two Disney board seats, criticized the company’s “woke” strategy — specifically questioning Marvel’s “Black Panther” and “The Marvels,” which featured Black and women leads, respectively.
The 81-year-old Peltz, who has admitted he “never claimed” to have experience in the media business, made the comments about “The Marvels” and “Black Panther” in a recent interview with the Financial Times. “Why do I have to have a Marvel [movie] that’s all women?” Peltz asked rhetorically. “Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that? Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?”
“Black Panther” does not have an all-Black cast, nor does “The Marvels” have an all-female cast.
What’s the problem with a movie based on a fictional country in Africa with native peoples from the continent being all black?
They should do what the comics did when there were complaints about not enough white people in Black Panther. Just start having Black Panther beat up the KKK.
That’s a great idea.
I’d watch that!
I don’t really have an issue with it but that argument is kinda close to the people who demand that historical European movie have an all white cast.
I’m a PoC and I’ve never understood the complaint about historical European movies having all white casts. Tbh, I don’t think it’s a real thing, it’s just a small minority of agitators who complain about it on Twitter. Lord of the Rings is my favorite movie series, and that’s all white people and only three women lol.
It shouldn’t be the only kinds of movies made. That’s one issue. And alternative history like Bridgerton sounds fun, if they make it make sense, such as in Thor where Heimdall is black and the other guy is Asian, but they explain that they’re aliens collected from a variety of planets and planes, and not actual Norse people.
That’s because the people who complain are idiots. There have been people of color in Europe for as long as there has been a Europe.
Nobody demanded shit, though. It has a primarily black cast because it takes place in Africa. The underlying premise is inaccurate.
Also, black people have existed in Europe for as long as there has been Europe.
I am sure this guy also calls out movies with all-white casts, right?
In case anybody else was confused, the character on The Simpsons is Nelson Muntz.
You were confused?
Ha-ha!
Why can’t it just be about rodents anymore?
Why would anyone want an 81 year old racist on their board Question mark
Curious, does this person have a history of racism or what? Never heard of them
Also why type the words “question mark”?
I’d say the example is rather obvious. As for the question mark, voice to text is temperamental and I’m lazy.
So, no then. Just this one headline. Laziness seems to be a trend here
Ah, I didn’t know you were the kind of person who just read the headline and didn’t read the article. Well that makes it simpler to ignore you. Laziness indeed.
I’ve never heard of the guy before today, but the only thing I know about him is that he’s said sexist and racist things. How much additional history does one require?
How is the guy saying they shouldn’t make black panther going to make the money exactly?
He’s trying to buy a position on the board. Not that his plans make any kind of financial sense.
- Because Disney/Marvel wants more women going to see MCU content. 2. Because it mostly takes place in Africa… And they want more black people going to see MCU content.
I thought this guy was a businessman. He should understand this stuff.
“Businessman” does not imply “smart” anymore. Not even “successful businessman”. This is a good example.
See also: Twitter, any Trump property , Boeing, etc.
I’m not sure it ever did.
Did it ever?
It is synonymous with Capitalist, and we all know the requirement for that. Owning Capital.
Seriously. The vast majority of the wealthiest people today had rich parents.
Born wealthy. Went to a prep school before heading off to Wharton, Trump’s Alma Mater.
Also, while looking him out, found out he’s Jewish. Wanna bet his supporters are gonna ignore that the next time they complain about Jewish influence in Hollywood?
Ah, the next Ike Perlmutter. At least he wants “Marvels that are both”, so seems to champion more transgender heroes. (I know transgender persons are not, or not always, both).
You do not have to have anything. No one is forcing you to go to those movies and no one is forcing you to join Disney’s board.
You may not like that there are Marvel movies lead by women or black people but too fucking bad. Especially the latter. Black Panther is a major cash cow.
Yeah, this guy’s entitlement with the “why do I have to” line was pretty disgusting. Why do you have to have cartoon movies about mermaids? Oh right, maybe that movie wasn’t made for you 81-year-old white dude!
Racist/misogynist dog whistlers going to dog whistle I suppose.
Black Panther is a significant contribution to black cinema (in its cultural significance, box office numbers, etc), but it is a single contribution to a long legacy of black cinema that didn’t start with Disney, and isn’t defined by a series of entertaining-but-insubstantial movies, or the current right wing myopia of the moment.
I didn’t have a need for “The Sound of Freedom” but I didn’t see you bitching about it.
Why do Marvel fans need a board influenced by a bigoted idiot?
Well you don’t need to, but then someone else gets to make an iconic movie, rakes in some cash and maybe even some Oscars and Globes.
Black Panther made a comical amount of money. The “Woke” strategy clearly worked.
Yeah, but old racists don’t like seeing Black people on screen, and that’s what’s really matters, doncha know.
He’s clearly never even watched either movie, so his perception of them is probably based entirely on some far-right media interpretation he saw
“They literally whip white people and make them feel bad for what their ancestors did in that movie!”
- their media source, probably
That’s literally the plot of Iron Man 2.
Black panther worked though, it was a success because it was a good super hero and a good(ish) story.
Why do I need another marvel movie?
I love Marvel movies. But it’s kinda gone downhill since Endgame.
It’s been hit or miss, much like the Infinity Saga. The difference is saturation. They’ve made too many films and shows too quickly, and the bad ones lend credence to the complaints of bigots.
When bigots complained that Heimdall the White was portrayed by Idris Elba, they were told to shut the fuck up because the movie was good and Elba was great in it. When bigots complained that Black Panther would include a lesbian relationship, the studio cut the scenes and scrapped the storyline. The Ancient One, the Mandarin, Jeri Hogarth, black Dark Elves, Zendaya as MJ, all the way up to the first gay man in Endgame, people are always going to find something to be mad about. Motherfuckers complained when Samuel L. Jackson was cast as Nick Fury, and when the comics followed suit, the collective bunching of panties could have jump-started a nuclear reactor.
The only thing that matters is whether the movies are good or not. Some have been good, others have not. That was true before Endgame, and has continued to be true.
Hoping they use the opportunity of dropping Majors abusive ass to pivot away from Kang and get the fun of the Infinity saga back. Not holding my breath but I would love at least one really good Fantastic 4 movie that crosses over with the rest of Marvel
I for one don’t.
C’mon. lets get back real scifi. Like the OG Day the Earth Stood Still in style. More drama. more social commentary and less…pew pew and tinfoil bikinis. For anybody whose not seen it… the 1950’s version is a social commentary on mutually assured destruction and is still poignantly relevant today. (Also, you know the whole-Flying Saucer-lands-on-the-lawn cliche? yup. that’s this movie.)
Shit I’d even take another Twister at this point.
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Klaatu barada nikto!
There’s so many series I have read recently that would make incredible space opera series perfect for streaming. It’s like Hollywood is allergic to pumping out good stories with cheap production. Instead we have shit stories written by committee and approved for commercialism with blown out production that takes an entire year to complete 10 episodes instead of 30. We can’t quite do cardboard sets and practical effects like the 80s but there’s thousands of crews doing creative things on shoestring budgets.
I’m almost afraid they’ll try another remake of day the earth stood still after some screen writer sees it.
Keanu fucking Reeves pissed me off with that. The remake deserves the George Lucas Holiday Special Treatment™️
(Or the old TV British treatment. We can go with that.)
More drama. more social commentary and less…pew pew and tinfoil bikinis.
It has always been both. Often in the same film or show or book
Somebody should ask this jackass why he needs a movie of all white men.
Answer: he’s racist. (bonus question: why does he need them in tights?)
