The fact that HP didn’t even say anything makes it look less like profiteering and more like spite. Idiots. I’m actually in the market for a printer and from what I can tell, in order to get something that won’t stiff me in some way I have to get one which is really old. And not made by HP.
Apparently Brother, and some Lexmark, printers don’t come with this BS DRM baked into the firmware.
Has anyone cracked the HP firmware to give us proper access to our hardware?
Thanks to DMCA, circumventing this protection and sharing it with people is illegal.
Honestly hasn’t stopped people in the past but I suspect it hasn’t been cracked because of how it connects to an external server to verify. Probably need to patch the firmware entirely
Thanks to DMCA, circumventing this protection and sharing it with people is illegal.
🏴☠️ Which means hypothetically it would need to be done anonymously. 🏴☠️
You just want a Brother laser jet black and white printer
It’s no bullshit and will work forever
Which is fine until Grandma wants to print out all the selfies and other photos our Grand kids send her. Then, that black and white anything won’t cut it. And I can’t afford a photo quality laser printer…
Jesus, just get her a Digit Photo Frame. Frameo is incredibly easy and it lets you add them.
She has multiple digital frames. But she still wants to print some out. Grandma’s will Grandma…
There’s online and supermarket printing services for that. Usually works out cheaper than maintaining a printer.
There nearest grocery store that might offer that kind of service would be at least a 200 mile round trip. And while we are old enough to remember sending real film to film labs for developing and then waiting weeks to get something back, she’s not very interested in doing so anymore. To her the cost is not worth the inconvenience of waiting anymore.
And frankly, some arguments are not worth having. In marriage, you need to pick your fights.
Yep and there are also fairly cheap strictly photo printers (cheap compared to getting film developed, at least)
I’m with the others recommending Brother. They aren’t perfect, but they’re the least bad.
Running about a 10 year old MFC 9349 CDW here, only changed the black toner so far. Used a cartridge reset truck I found on YouTube to get more life out of the original black before that.
Scans to network nicely, does 2 sided prints etc.
Go for a Brother.
I’ve owned a HL-3070cw for a decade (I think, close to if not) - I’ve changed the toner carts 4 times, it’s printed high res color daily for pennies. Shit just works, and quality isn’t bad at all. Works from any device on the network - phones tablets desktops laptops - practically zero network admin/setup, it just fucking works for everyone. Cannot recommend enough.
HL-2040 gang represent!
2070N here! It came out in 2005. Brother still sells it because why not?
I’ve been around in IT long enough… The emails went to someone who has left or someone set auto delete “on these annoying spam emails!”.
Not to make it right or better, hp sucks donkey balls, but I don’t believe the would’ve been zero contact. If you buy a subscription printer and stop paying for a subscription… That’s on you.
Subscription printer. Why the fuck is that even a thing.
Because if you make everything this level of shit and you sell someone “printer that always works at £6 a month!” It sounds like a great deal.
Wait a second, people still use printers in 2024!
Yeah, the only time I needed to print something in the last 5 years was a passport renewal form. I just spent 10 cents to print it at my local library. I really don’t understand why anybody really needs a printer nowadays.
Part of the reason I got a brother LaserJet instead of an Epson eco tank was because I don’t need to worry about toner drying out. As much as I try to avoid it, I still need to print once in a blue moon and it’s not really “efficient” to drive to the library.
Yeah I had a legal document that needed a shorter turnaround than the time it took me to drive to the library print it, bring it by and submit it. So I own a LaserJet brother printer I got at office Max because my HP printer doesn’t print anymore because I unsubscribed from their ink shipping service so they remotely bricked it.
I highly recommend everyone buy a black and white toner based printer. Its the way to go to hit the right blend of “I live paperless what need have I for a printer” and “oh actually my society isn’t totally paperless sometimes I need a printed document”
My old HP printer takes XL refills and HP can’t do a thing about it. I need them to know this too.
Get a brother printer
I replaced my HP with a brother laser printer. Works great and no more ink cartridges. That toner cart will last me years
I was given a Brother printer that had spent 10+ years in a damp cellar. I already had one but this one was A3 and that could be ha’dy. Unfortunately it was an ink jet.
So, of course, I had to buy cartridges as the printer was screaming bloody murder. Alas, the whole feeding circuit and the printing head were clogged beyond salvage (the manual insists that it’s not to be left unplugged for extended periods).
But that’s not the point of the story. The whole (compatible) set of four cartridges was something like 17€. Also the scanner still worked just fine.
Looked like a great machine, probably not worth it to fix (new one is about 450€).
For those who don’t know, Wendigoon is a creepy lore youtuber.
He’s also sometimes been acredited with creating the aesthetic of the boogaloo boys, not sure how true that is.
As far as I’ve heard, his videos are fairly consistent with documentation of the events he covers, such as the unibomber, the MLK assassination, etc.
It’s very funny to think he wasn’t radicalized before the printer situation.
He is not exactly radical, he is not a fan of the government and loves a good conspiracy.
He also is a devote Christian, but not a dick about it.
He, by all accounts, is a wonderful person that everybody who knows him loves.
Yeah, he has a… questionable history, what with the “boogaloo boys” memes, but he stopped engaging with that pretty quickly around the time it became associated with Actual Nazis instead of semi-ironic government-hating libertarians.
I did not know that! Thank you.
He’s also sometimes been acredited with creating the aesthetic of the boogaloo boys, not sure how true that is.
I don’t really know anything about him, but I just checked out his channel and I don’t really think that’s true since its only 3 years old
He interviewed a fed.
Seen this so many times and glad to keep seeing it.
More people being informed on these scummy practices to look out for and avoid is a good thing.
I’m not glad that I keep seeing it. They were using managed printing i.e. pay-per-page. HP may make garbage and overcharge for ink, but I’m sick of people tapping the up arrow on low effort posts like this.
I will happily upvote anything that rags on HP printers, I don’t care how low effort it is. In fact, I would hate to think someone spent actual effort on anything HP related.
HP printers have been kicking puppies and insulting your mother for well over 20 years. Wait, they haven’t? Well, after a certain point a company has burned so much good will by making marginal printers, less-than marginal drivers and artificially differentiating inks and toners to such a degree it’s hard to see it as anything other than profiteering… pant pant …that nobody cares if it’s unfair or inaccurate.
Don’t buy HP. Think of the puppies. Think of your mother, for God’s sake!
I just don’t see the point in spreading misinformation. I have had almost entirely bad experiences with HP, but that doesn’t mean I go around spreading lies.
The point in shitting on HP is to shit on HP. Not sure what other point you’re looking for. Are you concerned that people are going to start feeling sympathetic?
Everybody donate to Pine64 so they can get that open source printer off the ground someday.
Wait, what?
Pine64, the company that has made such excellent projects as the PinePhone, PineBook, and PineTime(open source hardware and software smartphone, laptop and smart watch), has stated that one of their dream projects would be an open source, hackable printer. There’s obviously a ton of logistics though and it will likely never materialize unless they really start making big bucks.
First time I see it and couldn’t find any sources. What kind of printer? Thermal, matrix, laser/led, inkjet?
They only mentioned it in passing once (afaik) in a blog post. These aren’t actual plans so much as a pipe dream I think
Fuck HP. Simple as that.
As other comments have said. Never buy anything from HP.
Get a Brother printer.
And while you’re at it, get a laser printer.
Join the wendigoon trail, REBEAL
Never use a smart printer. If this is your only choice, make sure this dorker has no internet connection. If it does make any sudden movements, use the 9mm.
Don’t buy HP ever, they straight up refuse to work without wi-fi.
I got an old… Ricoh? machine from some company sellout with a heck of a lot of toners. Was €500 but I’ll never need to buy anything again for the next 3 decades.
I prefer the .45 for stawpping powa. PC Load Letter?! Blamblamblam.
I need to print once a year. When I do, I print at my local library.
Printers shouldn’t be allowed to the edge…vlan with no Internet access… it’s a fucking printer not a web host.
Jokes on you it’s hosting hornets.
I did an internship at an OEM that was the dying most of the revenue came from government make work money for economic development and selling machines to the 3rd world because they were too dangerous for first world.
Our high end products did this remote deactivation thing. Hated it at the time still hate it today.
My mom bought a cheap HP printer/scanner several years ago and subscribed to their “instant ink” subscription which was actually surprisingly cheap (like $3/mo) but once the printer stopped reliably connecting to the internet and nobody could print wirelessly anymore with it, she canceled the subscription and HP DISABLED ALL OF THE INK CARTRIDGES. The cartridges themselves have wifi connections so HP can automatically send you new ink when they get low. What a scam.
No, they have serial numbers that are read by the printer when you try to use them. Air Gap the printer.
This is just what HP told us.
