• Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    All because you thought he made a Nazi salute and he’s working with Trump.

    No other valid reason. Wild and pathetic.

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      If it wasn’t a nazi salute, then why won’t any other right-wing politicians, commentators, or pundits do it?

      They have been challenged to, and they all skirt around it.

      They claim it was a different gesture, along the lines of “giving my heart to you,” but then won’t do the actual gesture.

      Charlie kirks’ attempt to write off the obvious nazi salute was especially funny:

      https://youtu.be/x7Nz6QbCrIE?si=QGujE9rfUbL1RNzQ

      It’s not even close… not even close…

      They won’t do it because they all know what it was. They know its wrong. They know only elon would get away with it (and possibly trump) because they are the leaders of the cult.

      The only other person who did it (weakly, as far as i know, and almost didn’t do it) is this guy:

      https://youtu.be/7E9pXCuJnbc?si=tlILPBss46q0SPXV

      It was so awkward. He even had to give a little nod to himself afterwards when it didn’t go down badly, as if he was sighing in relief.

      It’s pathetic that people try to defend it. It is obvious what it was.

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      Can you show me data to justify TSLA for even trading at as high a price as it has considering it’s assets, quality control, competition, product launch failures, etc?

      As far as I’m concerned, it’s BEEN overvalued to hell just on the back of Elon Musk’s name. So why can’t it swing back the other way for the same reason?

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      There was that time he called a rescue diver a pedo because he wasn’t allowed to use his unsafe sub. Oh, and his blatant takeover of the government.

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      My dad was invested in Tesla and i convinced him to sell with this one simple truth

      There is very little overlap in the venn diagram of people who would buy teslas and the people who think what musk is doing is good.

      he is seriously pissing off his customer base

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      Yeah, but this time investors might actively start dumping shares, because teslas stock was already ridiculously over inflated and their sales are now starting to decline and the legacy automakers are catching up, while the chinese curb stomped tesla already

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    Tesla’s valuation never made sense, and now it’s target market is limited to environmentally conscious Nazis.

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    Whats crazy is that even after losing more than half its value recently, it still has a PE ratio of around 128. Lol Can’t wait for the earnings to be released in April for the real bloodbath to start. Would be hilarious if it drops so much that FElon get’s margin called 😂

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      That would be wild lol. Trump has a storied history of turning on people who expend their usefulness to him, and often viciously. Many of the things that prop Musk up now can switch and work against him.

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        If you default on your mortgage, you’ve got a problem. If you default on Twitter, the bank has a problem

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          Aljazeera | How Elon Musk funded his $44bn Twitter takeover

          A curious read, seems he spent $27bn in cash on the transaction - so he ‘only’ has loans on ~$17bn, across a swathe of investment groups, wealth funds and banks. Basically, I don’t think a margin call is imminent.

          Which is a bit of a shame, as it would be somewhat hilarious to see it fall into the hands of a bank like Chase - being such a toxic asset at this point, to know whether they’d try to salvage/pivot it (ideal, but unlikely) - or just sell it on and write off the loss.

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        We will hear an immediate news bulletin that all post office vehicles will be model Ys or something like that.

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      The guy is a welfare queen who thinks he’s a hero from one of Ayn Rand’s horrible sci-fi novels.

      It’s too bad he’ll be able to send more money to his companies because he bought little d.

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        Tesla share price is largely off of vibes, not how the company is actually doing. Boycotts and protests hurt the vibes more than the Trump money slush fund helps the vibes

        If it was prices like every other automaker based on profit, it’d be enormously lower in price than it is

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          vibes

          Oh, I don’t doubt it for a minute. I’ve been giving that P/E ratio side-eye for years and years and I have no idea why people were wanting to buy some meme stock at ATHs because they just saw it go up (well, I do know, that’s largely how human psychology works, I guess. FOMO and figuring that looking in the rear view mirror is a great way to buy stock).

          VW has an EV, P/E ratio in single digits now, though it has apparently spiked in 2016 to triple digits. Ford also has an EV, same thing, P/E ratio of single digits, though they have crept up to double digits in the not too distant past.

          P/E ratio of TSLA in March 7, 2025 - 161.23. That’s still insane, but if you look back, they had P/E ratio over a 1100!

          It gets even worse when you watch videos like the ones thunderf00t has put out there on fElon…

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    Global sales of electric vehicles, including fully electric and plug-in hybrid models, increased 21% in January from a year ago, even as Tesla’s sales declined.

    I found this part the most interesting. I was under the impression that EVs in general were on a downturn, but it seems it is only Tesla. Time to remove Elon from Tesla.

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      It’s pretty weird to watch markets - S&P 500 is down more than 3% this week, while international index like VXUS has gone up nearly 1% this past week.

      Seems like little d and fElon are doing a helluva job. I think this kind of thing is…rather unusual. VXUS did have a bad day today, but still not as bad as S&P.

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      I found this part the most interesting. I was under the impression that EVs in general were on a downturn, but it seems it is only Tesla. Time to remove Elon from Tesla.

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      I was under the impression that EVs in general were on a downturn

      The EV naysayers are likely to blame for that impression. EV growth rate has declined. EV sales are still growing, just at a slower rate that before.

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        I bought an EV in November and everyone in my red state loves to ask me questions about it. Some start in a condescending place but most are genuinely interested in them.

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            It’s a KIA EV9. Was the only one with a functional 3rd row that isn’t $80k+. I enjoy it so far.

            It’s the initial redneck response in my experience. They assume it’s slow, complicated, and unreliable. They usually want to sneak in a “you know you still power that thing with coal” comment as well. Even if they don’t say it you can see it in their eyes. I will usually mention my solar panels and offer to race them in their truck 😎

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      https://www.investopedia.com/elon-musks-multi-billion-dollar-pay-package-8757243

      A Delaware judge has again voided what would be the largest executive compensation package in history—a Tesla (TSLA) pay plan for CEO Elon Musk valued at $101.4 billion (as of Dec. 2, 2024), 33 times larger than the previous record (also held by Musk for a 2018 Tesla deal).123

      The December 2024 ruling stands despite Tesla shareholders recently approving the package, which has almost doubled from its original $56 billion value because of the company’s soaring stock price.

      I think that Tesla shareholders should have some serious questions as to whether Elon Musk is worth $100 billion a year to Tesla.

      And keep in mind that he’s only doing Tesla things part-time:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

      Occupation:

      • CEO and product architect of Tesla, Inc.
      • Founder, CEO, and chief engineer of SpaceX
      • Owner, CTO and executive chairman of X (formerly Twitter)
      • De facto leader of the Department of Government Efficiency temporary organization

      I mean, I hear a lot of Musk about government employees not putting in their time. How many hours a week is Musk putting into Tesla? What is the return on investment for the money that Tesla is putting into Musk?

      https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/23/tesla-texas-gigafactory-will-cost-at-least-1point06-billion-filings.html

      It looks like a Tesla gigafactory runs about $1 billion. So for Musk to be a worthwhile investment for Tesla, he’d have to be worth more than than building 100 gigafactories a year.

      https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/revenue

      Tesla annual revenue for 2024 was $97.69B

      Instead of paying Musk last year, Tesla could have just given away every Tesla vehicle they produced in 2024 and all other products and services that they sold for free and come out ahead.

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      I think they’re on a downturn in the US with interest rates being so high and rebates evaporating away, but globally they’re doing well with all the shenanigans going on in China as well as Europe being more forward thinking.

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        Incentives evaporating, chargers not getting built, legacy manufacturers backing away from EVs on the promise of cheap gas, revoked efficiency requirements, and no regulation of carbon emissions. US never did get to the point of a healthy EV ecosystem, and now we step back to square one

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    I tried to buy at - 12% but market wanted - 15% today… Sold and switched to Nvidia. :)

    Nvidia have quality products, tons of money and doesnt have an insane person in charge, so…

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    I wonder what crisis they’re going to create to distract, dismiss or deny that this is happening