• whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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    Everyone is right; its an easy way to equate “deviancy” and to deny people rights. Its not just LGBT+; whenever nazis want to make a group of people a target, they accuse them of being “rapists” or “pedophiles.” The OG Nazis accused the Jews of wanting to molest Aryan women. Just look at Birth of a Nation. Or Trumps comments about Mexicans being rapists. It is also just generalized dehumanizing language.

    But also: there is power in redefining “pedophilia.” It lets them attack LGBT+ by calling them “groomers” but then involve the services of inspectors who exist to… “verify” genitalia? It allows them to bring back child marriage or protect powerful clergy or rich assholes like Epstien, while attacking gay marriage. Libertarians attack the age of consent and want to bring back child labor. Everything becomes pedophilia except actual pedophilia. The real question becomes, why, when one has enough money or institutional power to do anything, like go to space or buy a senator to protect your wealth systemically, why does become extremely interested in fucking children?

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    It’s not meant to make sense. It’s meant to make you shut down any argument in favor of giving non heterosexual people human rights. That’s all.

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    Since at least the 1970s and probably much earlier, any and all non-heterosexual people have been painted as pedophiles by right wing / conservatives.

    Indeed, a lot of the pedophile panic these days is driven by those people, because it is one of the few things they can get everyone to hate, and that hate often shuts down nuance and reason, and while real pedophiles are a problem, they want to expand that unthinking hate, that knee jerk ‘burn the heretic’ reaction to more people.

    This is the reason we now see people attacking even completely fictional media, because they’re trying as hard as possible to slippery slope it.

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      That’s a load of shit. I’m sorry but it is. You don’t need permission to tell someone to stay away from your kid. And the treatment for minors is puberty blockers. Not surgery. It’s less life altering than getting a tattoo. Perpetuating hate because you need to give yourself permission to keep people away from your kids because you don’t understand what’s actually happening is just a load of shit.

      Do better.

    • rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Let me set something straight real quick –

      Pushing ideology: forcing someone to conform to a set of social standards that you believe should fit the body parts they were born with

      Not pushing ideology: validating that they have the freedom to feel or act differently than the cultural expectation

      The real “gender ideology” was cishet gender ideology this entire time.

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          I don’t hurt minors, that’s a pathetic try. Transphobes will make a big deal about protecting children but they are too busy banning trans people from serving in the military while children literally freeze to death in casino parking lots. Transphobes are untrustworthy, deceitful, bad people.

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              Notice I didn’t say anything about any kind of operation, treatment, or surgery.

              Transitioning can be as simple as changing your name and wardrobe.

              All I said is that it’s valid to not conform to gender expectations, and transphobes are liars and bad people, which as both true statements. If you take issue with either of those statements, you are telling on yourself, and your dishonest, low-intelligence concern trolling about “treatments”.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I used to be an ally myself. But people like you hurt minors so 🤷

          Oh hey, a pathetically stupid transphobe! From lemm.ee who could have guessed!

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              yawn

              If you’re going to try to use our insults against us: do it right, kind pathetic how you idiots have been trying this schtick for at least the last 15 years and its always pathetic because you fail to use the words right. 1/5 Americans being illiterate indeed

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    Because clearly the only reasons to change your gender is to creep on women and children in changing rooms/public toilets, and for cheating at women’s sports that pay a fraction of the male sports in winnings.

    I’m afraid there’s just no other way that those activities can be done!

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      Seems like a lot of effort to creep on women. You’d have to be the most determined individual on the planet to change your sex just for that purpose. Too bad people have absolute dogshit critical thinking skills in general. They cannot comprehend how ridiculous or impractical their views are :-/

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    projection, they are most likely pedophiles themselves, or pedos in the closet that hadnt SA a child yet. Also seen this with people bragging that they know a pedo.

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      Or, as it’s often the case, informed! Many people hate not just out of ignorance but also because everyone else is doing it but they don’t know why.

      During the Lavender Scare, some homophobic government officials had to be explicitly informed what being gay meant because they were operating/ruining lives on a vague idea. :/

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    As someone who used to, although with gay not trans people, I believed that gay people were sexual deviants and that society accepting them would then go on to accept paedos, and that accepting deviancy was the problem that should be stopped.

    Contrary to what others have posted I didn’t conflate gay people with paedos, or label the two groups as equivalent, except in that I thought they were both deviant.

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    Because children are almost always used as an excuse for hating something you don’t really understand. They’re a group that can’t speak for themselves, so it’s easy to frame everything as “think of the children”.

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    It’s just to alienate and villainize the people they don’t like. Image someone as criminal and disgusting and other people will grow the same feeling. It’s what, Trump does too, with immigrants and trans people. Hitler did the same with jews. Spreading hate 101.