• yesman@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Even little babies know the difference between mommy and daddy. The shift in attitude that’s required to reform transphobia (I know) means digging into the basement of how you think of yourself and the people you love. This is threatening, it’s scary.

    For the conservative, a trans person should not exist. It contradicts the ‘natural’ hierarchy or is a rebellion against God. So their must be an alternative motive: sexual perversion. So you connect the dots between “scary” and “sexually deviant” and pedophile is the natural result.

    Calling a trans person a sexual threat soothes the dissonance by shifting the identity “trans” into something where the repulsion and fear make sense. Pedophilia is a box where you can put people whom you fear and hate them actively without the need to examine your own motivations or ever, ever have to look at it from a trans perspective.

  • mystik@lemmy.world
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    There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …

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      The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?

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      Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.

      In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.

      It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.

      Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.

      Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.

      It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.

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      it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that

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    Well considering they elected Epstein’s closest friend (yeah it’s on tape), I would’nt try to make sens out of this. They need to hate people, they usually pick the easiest target aka minorities.

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    Transgender people often (wrongly) get their gender identity conflated with their sexuality. Transphobes already have a visceral reaction to a transgender person, so those feelings automatically extend to how they see a transgender person’s sexuality. And as others have mentioned they may be projecting their own perversions on other people. They have an unhealthy view of sexuality in general, which may be the origin for their transphobia.

    When I came out to my mother as transgender she had a hard time dealing with it. She seemed to have a weird fixation with my sexuality and sexual orientation whenever I tried to educate her on the subject, even after I explained to her that sexuality and sexual orientation is not related to my transgender identity.

    My mom has always been a prude when it came to raising her boys and constantly would police our vocabulary and sexual jokes. But she had no issues making jokes and comments about my sexuality when I came out to her as a transgender woman. So I can only assume she had unresolved issues with the way she sees sexuality in a way that it makes her uncomfortable and she was projecting her own perversions and unhealthy view of sexuality onto my transgender identity. Because to her why else would I transition if not for my sexual perversions, since that’s the only way she can see world.

    On a side note, ever since I started my transition I pretty much stopped watching porn all together. I masturbate less and my mind isn’t constantly fixated on sex and I’m able to experience the world through a much healthier lense. When I’m attracted to someone now, I’m not distracted by my sexual impulses as much and I’m much better able to connect with them as a person. So in short, embracing my transgender identity has dramatically decreased my uncontrolled sexual impulses. So when people paint us as some sort of deviant perverts, it’s actually quite the opposite and nothing could be further from the truth. Not to mention, our sexuality is only a sliver of our transgender identity and we don’t care for strangers making it a focus.

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    Because trans people are different, and they’re afraid of different people. So they make assumptions that those people are somehow dangerous. Racism, xenophobia, transphobia; it’s all the same stupid mentality.

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      I actually agree with bigots that we are dangerous as trans people (to cisheteronormative society). the caveat is that we shouldn’t give a fuck what they think since conforming to a violent society doesn’t benefit trans people. it’s why marginalizing pedophiles doesn’t make child rape go away, because they’re just a scapegoat for all the normal people and parents without any sexual attraction to their victims abusing children because of the power hierarchy

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    Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.

    It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos

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        Of the infinitesimally small percentage who might be, (a) it has absolutely nothing to do with them being trans and (b) I wager they’d be less likely to act on it than cis pedos since the risk of violence is already significantly higher just from being trans. Not to defend pedos in any way- we want absolutely nothing to do with them

        Use your brain

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            You say, “biased towards the trans community,” I say, “biased against baseless bigotry,” as any sensible person should be.

            Your ramblings may be scattered with statements that are agreeable in isolation (like “they are just people like the rest of us”), but your stance seems to ignore the fact that, unlike “the rest of us”, the trans community is being specifically targeted and marginalized, so for the sake of equity it seems fair (not biased) for the rest of us to more vehemently defend them.

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    I think a lot of it comes from thought correlation traps that people easily fall into. The path goes as such

    Guys, going into girls bathrooms are creepy sex perverts. -> Guys pretending to be girls going into girls bathrooms are even creepier sex perverts. -> Pedophiles are the creepiest of sex perverts -> Trans people are creepy pedophiles

    It’s all baseless assumption and bias, and full of logical fallacy’s but an incredibly easy train of thought that follows normalized cultural perceptions for decades. That’s why people get stuck on those issues, when it really shouldn’t be a big deal at all.

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      baseless

      incredibly easy

      The two criteria for whether a MAGA hat can be wrapped around a concept

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    most paedophiles are cis men. Cis women paedophiles absolutely dwarf paedophiles trans people even when accounting for population.

    It turns out, people who violate others don’t need to go through years of doctor’s visits and dehumanizing bureaucracy to breach someone’s boundaries.

    It’s just the same fascist projection repeated ad nauseum because it works. You immediately have to go on the defensive and tiptoe around the taboo subject of paedophilia instead of actually challenging their assumptions. Anything less gets you accused of accepting child abuse, which is just the first step repeated again. By the time you’ve even addressed the claims, anyone worth reaching out to has logged off and the fascists have inched closer to the levers of the state.

    It never was about paedophilia, or rape, or abuse, or sports. It’s about exploiting emotions and appealing to a constructed idea of “common sense” that can tie you up in its endless tendrils so they can ignore you and dehumanise you more efficiently.

  • (⬤ᴥ⬤)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    if you believe that sex and gender are synonymous and assigned at birth then someone who doesn’t like their gender becomes a walking contradiction.
    any person with a healthy relationship to having their worldview challenged would see that and think “hey maybe i was taught wrong”

    unfortunately for everyone on earth conservatives define themselves by thinking that what they were taught is the rightiest thing ever actually so that doesn’t happen

    as for why pedophiles specifically, they’re a group of people who are so thoroughly hated any and all violence against them is ‘justified’