Well, duh, where else would a pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying ad be?
Alphabet and Meta might be at that point soon, with the way things are going.
Meta? Zuck has been extremely supportive of the nazis in power so far
Haha, last time, when Facebook was “fact checking” and “fighting disinformation” the Zucc was a hero, now he suddenly supports nazis.
I mean… have you not seen the photo ops and donations from him explicitly supporting nazis? 🤷♂️ not sure what to tell you, bud, but you can believe your eyes
No, I haven’t seen it. I’d be glad if you would kindly provide me with some evidence, especially if you know the definition of “nazism”
Yeah why would Zucc do that?
People have been shitting on that lizard-faced freak since Facebook’s first flame wars between McCain and Obama supporters.
Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.
I’m sorry, who said Meta was ever the good guy, let alone its shitstain of a CEO? Implementing too-little-too-late consolation fact-checking for a little bit doesn’t excuse waving the flag as THE vanguard of misinformation-as-internet-discourse in mainstream social media.
reddit.
is this a rhetorical question?
I’m not sure if it qualifies, but I think so, the article is meant to expose that the rules of X do not prevent pro Nazi content.
And I suppose the point is for the readers to reach the obvious conclusion and answer the question themselves, that it’s because X is run by a Nazi.Almost everything on X is pro Nazi content. How is this different?
Deleted twitter at least 10 years ago. I assume it’s become a lot worse but is the vast majority of it really pro Nazi?
That’s what I hear. I deleted my Twitter many years ago, too. Although, it was still pretty bad then
Well for one denial of holocaust is illegal in many countries. Often under wider rules that falsification of historical facts is illegal.
EU should ban Xitter, because it’s a channel for history falsification and hate speech.
That sounds nice. I wish it was like that here.
A law to prevent spreading false history may sound good but I fear it’s not a good solution. In bad hands the law can instead can attack history to promote a false one. If an inconvenient truth happens to looks like the dribble that comes out of a Holocaust denier when took at face value then good hands may punish an otherwise good person, thus promoting a different pseudo history.
I’m convinced I cannot trust anyone to judge - for me - what I should be able to read/hear. There must be better ways to defeat Nazism ideology.
If you are in USA, I seriously wish so too, because the latrine that is the debate in USA is flowing over to the rest of the world.
One you can blame the users. This one falls squarely on Xhitter corporate.
Because X is a nazi bar. For nazi’s. Nazi’s like this kind of thing.
It might seem trivial, but this stupid headline points to one reason Republicans have been winning. Everyone (notably journalists) still feels the need to “play the game” as they’ve always known it.
Oh, Candidate A said something? The game rules say you now have to run a quote in response from Candidate B.
But when Candidate B is an openly corrupt, lying, fascist, rapist shitpile who can’t make it to the potty in time and is in the pocket of Russia, maybe take the fucking gloves off at some point and stop pretending you can or SHOULD be impartial. Here, watch:
After Public Nazi Salute Musk-Owned X Now Running Pro-Hitler, Holocaust-Denying Ads
It’s not perfect, yet still worlds better.
You can and should have spicy reporting while remaining impartial. It takes more work to drum up the evidence, but that’s what separates good reporting from great reporting.
Here, watch:
After Public Nazi Salute Musk-Owned X Now Running Pro-Hitler, Holocaust-Denying Ads
Because they’re scared. Print that, get buried in lawsuits by the richest edge lord in history.
You have to be smarter than this and actually defund his backers. Make it incredibly hard for them to be associated with him. Show him as a losing proposition.
As long as he’s winning, people are buying Tesla’s, the US is financing public money into space X, and multinationals are active and paying for Twitter then nothing is going to change.
Just change it to ‘controversial salute’ and keep the rest. People will fill in the blanks
No they won’t.
Tesla sales are dropping and drivers are getting harassed already, we’ll see I guess.
This can’t be the whole truth, though. What ivanafterall is describing is true for essentially the whole western world. Media (or at least high-brow media) feel they need to be respectable, and to be respectable you have to be perfectly neutral. Not just in America did established media feel the need trivialise Musk’s obvious Hitler salute, this happened all over. I follow Dutch and German media, and haven’t seen a mainline newspaper call it what it was.
This is it for the curious:
This is just related:
I have added Elon to my block keywords, but lately the circlejerk had somehow seeped its way out onto my feed.
Could anyone share other blocked terms they find effective?
Add Elmo and pedoguy.
“on X”
Oh, that’s good.
I’ll give you three guesses
Sounds like free speech here in the United States. I understand Musk might not be consistent but I welcome free speech on social media. If you don’t like it then block it & move on. It’s almost like Democrats search for things to get upset about. Really annoying cause free speech used to be something Democrats cared about & now they are pro-censorship & fascist just like Republicans. They’re thirsty for violence against people that say something that offends them.
Here’s some free speech for you:
Fuck you, Nazi-enabler.
Clearly your emotions dictate any logic you might be capable of someday.
I suggest you call the nearest mall and tell them you placed a bomb in there. It’s just free speech, it’s not like you actually put a bomb there, you’re just saying it, so it’s fine. If they don’t like it they just can hang up and move on. I think it will be a totally fun and safe experience for you to try and that there will be absolutely no consequences for anyone involved, because that’s how free speech works.
Or maybe, I don’t know, you could pick someone you don’t like and start telling people that they’re a pedophile! It doesn’t even have to be true, it’s just free speech. You are free to say whatever you want! And if someone wanted to do the same thing to you, it should absolutely be their right to do so! Free speech for everyone! It’s literally free!
Your example is bad faith, but I assume you know that already. If it isn’t, then I really don’t know if I can explain to someone that lacks mental acuity about over 50 years of case law on the subject. There is even more case law on libel & slander, but it sounds like reading isn’t your forte. However, if you’re capable of reading then I suggest you do so. But go on & pretend to be ignorant, or maybe you really are & if so then come back after you’ve actually read & studied the decisions by the courts and we can discuss what you think they got wrong.
No, I definitely cannot read. Can write, but can’t really read, sorry. My lack of mental acuity doesn’t help. Libel and slander? Oh my, I wonder what those words mean. Are they, perhaps, social constructs that exist to prevent the consequences of harmful communication? Like… Regulation of speech?? Like… laws? Wait, but isn’t speech supposed to be free??? Why are they taking away our rights like this???
There are multiple differences with libel & slander, but again since you admit you have a lack of mental acuity, I’m not sure it would help explain them to you. By all means, since those are civil matters though sue the people that offend you in court & send me the docker numbers.
Sorry dude. I know you really really want to be taken seriously, but it’s just not gonna happen. Defamation laws have been around for millennia (50 years of case law? Lol) and they’re just one tiny example of regulation of speech. If you don’t believe political propaganda on social media should be regulated exactly the same way, you probably lack the mental acuity to understand the concepts of cause and effect. Or you’re just arguing in bad faith as well. We could go on for hours about the excesses of extra-woke cancel culture and how they are detrimental to discourse, but since you decided to open with “Nazi propaganda is free speech” I’m pretty sure it would be a huge waste of time.
Defamation laws are a civil matter. You have to sue someone & prove in court that you were defamed. There are also specific laws for public figures & case law for things said on Twitter/X. Furthermore, what is propaganda to you might be what some of them legitimately believe. You can’t sue people for believing in a different ideology. For example, you can’t sue someone for liking chocolate ice cream because you like vanilla, nor can you sue people because they believe that God doesn’t exist. I’d love to see you take it to court though & send me the docker number once you do, so I can be amused.
There are limits to free speech just like there are limits to other freedoms. For example: “The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.” IOW where harm is done. So the question becomes do messages like this cause harm? IANAL, but I believe that it would qualify as hate speech, which is widely considered to cause harm.
Hate speech isn’t a thing in the US & countries that have enacted those pro-fascist “hate speech” laws have since seen alt-right ideologies start growing at unprecedented rates.
There are over 50 years of case law on the subject. We can discuss prominent cases on it if you want, or heck why don’t you sue & claim it is hate speech, send me the docket number and I’ll eat my popcorn.
It’s also important to distinguish freedom of speech (protected by the first amendment) from free speech (a made up concept meant to bastardize on the former and to allow social media post whatever they want anonymously, like this ad).
Because they know their target audience, presumably.
that’s just elon’s account
Sure it’s an ad and not just the owner’s tweets?
It says it’s an ad in the post at the top right
https://x.com/goldberg_ebooks/status/1889852084926947389
Oh yeah, I too hate Hitler only because of Schindlers list. I grew up in Europe in the 80s and there is absolutely no other reason than that movie why we should hate him, really! The guy could do no wrong, he even loved dogs! Hell, he even painted! Bos Ross paints too, why would you hate Bob Ross? Don’t hate Hitler, he’s like Bob Ross!
I feel like I need to shower and apologize to Bob after writing this.
Jfc.
Cuz its X, that’s why. I really don’t know why we tolerate this shit, or why people still use that site.
I don’t think the question is if there was one.
The question is, would anyone be surprised if there was?
Elon does not care.
Actually, he does care for and enjoys the company of nazis
Because Elon is a Nazi.
The “master” race
The beast with two heads
