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What ads? My adblocker still works.
Ads?
Did u mean “tax for the poor and stupid”?
Yeah, what the fuck is the article talking about? I haven’t seen an ad on YouTube in years.
I have no issue in paying creators with my YouTube Premium subscription. What annoys me is seeing creators feed the algorithm with “regular posts” or create filler videos for sponsors when they have nothing to say.
That and seeing explainer videos from someone who learned something five minutes before recording… the number of copycats and regurgitating the same news content is depressing.
The same goes for the epidemic of faceless AI videos narrating generic content… horrible. The “don’t recommend channel” must be worn off by now, from me alone. :-)
Fantastic exceptions from talented creators make it worth it, so I am happy.
Can’t say I’ve seen them.
thats why i block them all.
they aint making money off of annoying me.
I use Firefox with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock. I never see any ads on youtube.
Reminder that Firefox on mobile also has ublock origin and other add ons that improve the experience.
Does Firefox on iOS have extensions? I have to use Orion by Kagi to get extensions on iOS.
Look into Sideloadly and uYouPlus by qnblackcat . I’ve been using it for years now, and while a hassle to sign the apps every week, it’s the best we have unfortunately.
It does not. If you don’t want to sideload, consider AdGuard and/or Vinegar. Only works with Safari, though.
This is the way. Just make sure to disable the YouTube app on your phone so links people send you don’t open in the app.
Safari in itself also blocks a lot of ads, but if that is not enough IOS users can also install Firefox. There is no reason to watch ads anymore
Yeah extensions on Firefox mobile is fucking awesome
Pro-tip: Watch youtube on firefox/etc with a bunch of ad blockers. No ads.
It really is a pro tip, when installing more than one ad blocker is just gonna make for a worse experience, never mind the fact that it’s going to make the ad blcokers themselves actually not work the way they’re supposed to.
Ublock origin is enough :p
Sponsor block is a nice extra though
I just avoid channels with annoying sponsor segments, that has been a pretty good filter which also largely avoids clickbaity titles, since they seem to go hand in hand.
Use the Brave browser and you won’t get any ads. Glorious.
Ublock Origin + Firefox fork :3
Also a good option, but I like that Brave’s native adblocker works better without addons.
Yup, it’s my backup if I need a chromium browser for something. I just don’t engage with the BAT nonsense and it’s about as good as a chromium browser can get IMO.
Firefox w/ uBlock Origin is my main though, mostly because I want to support independent browser engines.
EDIT: Not reading any of the replies, so enjoy your circle jerk.
That’s what I do as well when mozillatards begin questioning my browser choice, thinking they’re much better person than I am. Hope they enjoy their dying browser.
Then you only have to endure the ignominy of using a browser from a homophobic anti-vaxxer
A bad person can create a good product. It’s that simple.
Also, I love that you’re self-righteously typing this out on a computer produced by slave labor, likely involving kids.
You’re better than me for sure.
A bad person can create a good product sure, doesn’t mean we need to support it.
I don’t even think he’s that bad. The worst thing he did was create JavaScript, which is largely fixed now, and the second worst is donate to an anti-LGBT group with his own money. As CEO of Mozilla, he led a very diverse group, diverse enough to kick him out once they found out about his donation.
I personally wish he was back at Mozilla instead of the nonsense leaders they’ve had since he left. I certainly don’t agree with his political views, but he built a great organization and I think Mozilla would be in a better place with him at the helm.
I don’t use Brave as my main browser because I think Firefox is still worth supporting as an independent browser engine, but Brave is my backup if I need a chromium browser.
There’s no slave labor (nor children) involved in producing an iPhone. Unless you completely twist the meaning of the word “slave“ to mean something completely different than what it really means. Of course, unless you have proof that child slaves built my iPhone. I’m pretty sure you don’t.
As for criticizing self-righteousness, what the hell do you call your entire comment but self-righteous whataboutim?
A bad person can create a good product. It’s that simple.
It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.
Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.
Most people aren’t OK with that.
What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?
What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?
You first
Yeah that’s not how this works.
It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.
You made a statement, not I. Either you have evidence that most aren’t OK with that, or you don’t.
Do you have amnesia? Because you definitely made a claim without providing evidence.
Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.
So go on then. Provide that evidence.
Of course, we’re not discussing iPhones of the past. The matter under discussion is specifically the phone I have now. Nice try with that strawman.
So go on. Provide evidence for your claim. And try to do it without any more logical fallacies. Other than the whataboutism that you wrote in here on, by the way.
Edit: trolls get blocked. I’m sure you’ll find some way to blame me for that too.
Whilst enduring YouTube
It’s far more bearable without ads. Which can be blocked with most ad blockers in pretty much any other browser.
I keep brave around pretty much just for this, because it’s the easiest and most effective way on MacOS and iOS. And yet they still seem to be getting through sometimes lately.
The easiest and most effective way on macOS and iOS is to use the AdGuard extension for Safari. Or the U block origin extension in Firefox.
Neither come with the shame of using a browser developed by a homophobic anti-vaxxer.
Are you speaking from experience? Because I am. And those don’t work. This is right now, on iOS 18.3 on my iPhone 16 Pro.
They worked fine for me, but I don’t have all of those other extensions. AdGuard blocks all the ads on my device, including ads in YouTube videos.
Perhaps you should tweak your settings?
You need Vinegar as well.
Never use a browser that aggressively advertise itself.
What youtube ads, I haven’t seen one in years, fortunately.
Me neither, as I don’t use YouTube at all.
I have to see them at school all the time, because our teacher’s don’t bother installing adblockers.
@RobotZap10000 @Viri4thus you should teach the teacher…
Use Firefox Mobile and ublock origin it will block ads on mobile
You’re not speaking to the teacher
teacher’s
Now I’m doubly disappointed in your teachers.
Woopsie! That’s what 7 years of Dutch grammar does to you.
EDIT: Woops, got confused myself
The plural -s in Dutch only gets an apostrophe if the stem word ends on an open vowel. So it’s cavia-cavia’s on the one hand, but kikker-kikkers on the other (and la[de]-lades). So even in Dutch this’d be incorrect ;)
Mine is capitalising everything because of German.
At least German is consistent, unlike English where every so-called “rule” nearly has more exceptions than places it applies. As a native speaker I’m always amazed that anyone manages to learn our train wreck of a language.
Same. We should all collectively abandon ship and just learn Esperanto or something.
English has its pitfalls, but is in many ways incredibly simple.
Plus it’s everywhere, and the best way to learn a language is to use it.
Dutch is way worse than English regarding inconsistencies it’s not even funny.
Sadly Dutch is adapting to make some thing “proper” Dutch which where never proper Dutch and sound wrong to every native Dutch speaker. Like “groter als jij” instead of “groter dan jij”.
I’m not sure what you mean here. As far as spelling goes, Dutch is far more consistent than English.
You’re mentioning some none-standard Dutch which is often perceived as incorrect (and it is indeed according to the rules of the standard language norm). Yet, if you were correct in your claim that ‘groter als jij’ was ‘never proper Dutch and sound[s] wrong to every native Dutch speaker’, no native Dutch speaker would ever use ‘groter als jij’. Native Dutch speakers do this often, though, and have been doing it at least since the seventeenth century (eg. this quote from 1670: ‘Zy [de vrucht ”Peci”] is niet veel groter als een kastanie …, vol sap en aengenaem van smaek: herder dan een gemeine appel, en een weinig zuurachtig,’ - ‘It [the fruit “Peci”] is not much bigger than a chestnut …, full of juice and pleasantly tasting: harder than a common apple, and a bit sourish,’).
Sorry to have gone so off-topic here, though.
Not Everything, just Nouns.
Teacher here. My school uses everything Chrome OS and locks the ability to install extensions or other browsers. It’s not always us.
Are you blocked from installing browser extensions?
You should teach your teachers.
When I watch YouTube on the Roku in my bedroom I see ads and it’s terrible. If I see a 30 second ad I go back and hit play again, usually I have to do that two or three times and then I get a 5-second skippable ad. Even then I’m often only two or three minutes into the video before it plays another ad.
I don’t hate them. I think 80% should go back to the creators though.
And since they made so much while people are effectively using adblocker, there’s no need to fight them back, right?
Right?
It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money. Stock holders will pressure to fire the guy that does that.
It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money.
It’s probably also about sending a message.
I pay for a YouTube premium family plan. It’s probably a rip off but my kids enjoy content on YouTube more than any other platform but YouTube is not safe for children with ads enabled (and YouTube kids is a joke)
Soggy cereal made a video about how YouTube ads are unsafe a few weeks ago and that was exactly my experience before I started paying for yt premium, look that up if you are curious
There’s literally porn ads on yt. Recently an acquaintance of mine got one of those “Look what she said when she saw the size of his dick. You can have a bigger dick if you just buy our product”, with plenty of suggestive imagery. And scam ads. My mother got scammed because of a youtube ad pretending to sell products in the name of a famous brand of supermarkets in my region.
Tinfoil hat time:
YouTube allows/endorses/pushes ads not suitable for kids because they know parents, of all people, have no time to curate their kids’ ad experience and will just fork over the cash.
I think your theory is plausible. On the YT smart TV app, the ads seem to be increasingly about unpleasant things like dick pills, period pads, and constipation treatments. I think they literally serve up unsavory ad content as a way of punishing you into shelling out for a subscription. Jokes on them, I just switched to SmartTube.
And youtube. Kids sucks so much because they don’t really want anyone to use it… Sadly though, they don’t have to plan to do these things. They just don’t invest in making them kid safe.
Can confirm. As soon as I turn off personalized ads, I get nothing but “find hot ladies in your area” and “play this hentai game” ads across all Google products. It’s ridiculous.
I’ll just share with you my experience:
I was also paying for a YouTube Premium family plan, but still got ads. What made me cancel was the fact that they’re still using trackers, so they were making money off me three times (subscription, ads, and selling my data)!
Coupled with the fact that “content creators” don’t really make content for the love of making it. It’s all created “for the algorithm”, especially the “watch to the end”, clickbait titles and thumbnails, “like and subscribe” begging, “only 15% of you are subscribers”, sponsored content disguised as education, etc… Videos today are nothing like they were 15 years ago, because it became solely about making money.
Google is one of the pioneers of the enshittification movement!
It’s not just ads on Youtube. It’s also all the sponsor crap and filler content to get to 10 minute videos.
I use it with an adblocker and sponsorblock but it’s still shit.
For sure. YouTube creators shilling for honey while Honey stole their affiliation money shows how little time they spend vetting their sponsors. The stuff they peddle is usually a few ticks away from scam, pretty much always overpriced. The day sponsorblock stops working, is the day I stop paying for YouTube premium and using youtube. It’s a pity, because there is a lot of good content on there.
what ads? taps ublock and firefox android
I can’t cope with the shitty translate on Firefox mobile, I live in a non English country and it’s driving me insane
Why not just switch it to English? I’m from non English country as well, most my apps are in English
Because most websites are not English and every single time I want to translate a site, I have to use a drop down list to select English as the language to translate to.
oh not the menu translation, but the local website translation. well I’m happy if that’s your worst problem
btw, translation to english will almost always work the best, with any kind of service
Why don’t you use the TWP extension? It includes even a DeepL option besides Google Translate and Yandex.
Well over 50% of the sites on the internet are English so it is the most prominent language on the net.
He probably means the website translation function. Very useful for translating local websites, that aren’t available in english, if you don’t speak the language or not fluent enough
Swedish is fine
Eww
Just get another translate extension.
Suggestions?
Deepl.
I use the Firefox extension Immersive Translate exactly for this reason. Hasn’t failed me yet.
Thank you, I’ll give it a try.
And yet they aggressively demonitize channels.
I mean they don’t want to pay the creators thats abundantly clear.
Line go up
I’d love to know their cost of storing all the YT videos and serving them.
YouTube runs at a loss, as far as I am aware. The other businesses prop it up. They run it, even at a loss, because they harvest data from it.
