Edit: I don’t drink alcohol, it’s just the best way to describe it. From comments I’ll be going on a low carb diet, thank you all.

Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.

My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

I’m semi fit? I’m a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.

But would like… basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?

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    Alternative: Teach kids to cook, on the premise of being a good dad. THEN kids cook ALL the meals!

    Yeah! I made your life easier!

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    Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

    Do you want a six pack or do you just want the belly bulge to go away?

    Every little bit helps. Generally speaking if you can work a few push ups and sit ups into your daily routine it will likely have more effect than doing an hour long dedicated work out once a week.

    Start out with 10 sit ups every morning right when you wake up and do 10 every night before you hop in bed. Add more as you get comfortable or do them periodically throughout the day.

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      Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

      I’m also stuck on this guy’s weight and him saying that it includes a beer belly. Not to be judgemental, it’s just fascinating to hear the details about different body types. I’m on the taller side and am just a few pounds shy of double OPs weight.

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        I cannot fathom being 130 pounds again. I’ve been over 200 for so long I can’t even imagine how much more nimble you must be lol.

        Well hey congrats on the metabolism. I know it can be inconvenient how much you gotta eat n all that, but trust me it beats the alternative. My brother is a massive stoner and he eats like an elephant, but he’s always skinny as twig. I eat like half of what he eats and I’m a hefty slab of meat.

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          idk, ive gotten made fun of my whole life for being skinny. this also prevents me from gaining muscle mass you know. like…if want to buy a watch, i have to get the smallest watch possible for my wrists. and im not too nimble anymore. almost 40 so my joints are all breaking haha.

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            Maybe it’s time to start smoking some pot. Jk jk.

            Don’t tell me 40 is when the joints start breaking. That’s right around the corner for me.

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        I had the class record for most sit ups in 60 seconds at one point in my life lol. I think it was 43. I probably couldn’t do 43 sit ups in an hour at this point in my life… I should probably start working out again lol

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    I think the conventional wisom is diet is more important than exercise in losing weight, although I think most people would recommend working out once a week regardless if you would lose weight or not, basically any working out would be positive if you aren’t at all, it couldn’t hurt to do sit ups and push ups and see where that takes you.

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    you don’t even have to work out.

    you can get there simply with diet.

    that said, dieting doesn’t target where the fat comes from.

    Core strength training (like sit ups, push ups, etc,) will help with muscle definition, and that can improve the appearance, but if you break down how much say, a pound of body fat is in excercise vs how much that pound is in hambergers… well. restricting calories will always be more effective for weight loss.

    has your doctor said you need to lose weight? 130 pounds sounds not-overweight.

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      I know OP posted a specific question, but don’t forget that working out is incredibly good for your physical and mental health. You’ll feel stronger and more mentally resilient, and you can get rid of a surprising number of body pains.

      You’ll also increase your energy levels, as counterintuitive as that seems.

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    CICO

    Calories in <<< calories out

    You can lose your beer belly sitting on a sofa all day doing nothing, just as long as you’re intaking less calories than you burn.

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    Do strict keto, the majority of a beer belly is water which bonds with fat at a 3:1 ration so when you’re burning fat as your primary fuel you’ll piss half of it out in the first month without any change in physical activity.

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    I agree with the comment saying that 130lbs doesn’t sound overweight, unless you’re 5’0 or under. Does your belly look obviously big to you in photos, or has anyone else ever mentioned it? Your perspective when you look down at your belly will make it look larger to you, so it might only be you that sees your belly as too big.

    Keep in mind as well that in any photos of men you see who are body building, they have often dehydrated themselves to make their muscles stand out more. If you’re properly hydrated you’re never going to look like that, even if you exercise every day.

    But strengthening your core muscles is really good for your back, so it’s probably not a bad idea to do sit ups and push ups.

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    The fact that you describe yourself as skinny and low weight suggests that this is not about calories. Do you have a high carb diet? That tends to cause fat to collect in the midsection. If you’ve ever seen starving children in Africa, you may have noticed that a lot of them have a similar stomach bulge, despite being clearly malnourished. It’s from their diet that’s high in grains.

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    The human body is absurdly efficient. Fat weight is tackled by reducing calorie intake (using whatever tactic works for you). Exercise only makes a small difference by comparison.

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      Exercise can burn a ton of calories, but in order to be able to do that level of exercise you have to be reasonably fit. For someone who doesn’t have a ton of stamina, I agree that diet is much more effective.

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        Exercise in someone not particularly fit is also likely to trigger a stress response and their appetite will overcompensate. Exercise is good - everyone should be doing it - but for fat loss is pointless unless eating is well under control.

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    What you’re talking about would help, but not as much or as quickly as you’d like.

    As others have said, changing your diet would help much more. Beer bellies are correctly called beer bellies because of all the carbs.

    Don’t try to change too much at once. This is preventative, and not a major emergency, so you can be a bit kinder to yourself. At first, merely reduce your intake of unhealthy foods. Completely eliminate them later on. Wean yourself off things rather than trying to go cold turkey. Dieting is very much a mental game. When you get used to eating less unhealthy crap, there’s a good chance you’ll crave it less.

    Don’t eat mindlessly out of habit or boredom; ask yourself if you’re genuinely hungry, and if there’s a healthier option available (and make sure there is. When you go grocery shopping, buy more healthy snacks to make up for the junk you’ll be buying less of).

    You’re very smart for paying attention to this now. It’s much, much easier to adjust your diet now than it is to try and correct things once your weight has become a serious problem.

    Lastly, I’m no expert. Search “diet plan for beginners” for more suggestions. Talking to your doctor wouldn’t hurt, either, especially if you’ve got a condition we’re not aware of.

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    Humans are horribly, miserably energy efficient.

    Seriously we evolved as exhaustion predators: pick an animal and just keep walking after it until it drops, then eat it. That’s our whole schtick. We are the goddamn terminator.

    Just being alive and breathing uses up about 1500-2000 calories a day.

    An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that, which makes up for like a spoonful of peanut butter.

    As such, you can’t practically lose weight via exercise alone. You need to bring calories-in down to less than calories-out.

    The tricky part is doing it in a controlled and sustainable manner so you don’t just say fuck it and scarf down two whole pizzas for lunch in a week’s time because you’re hangry and don’t care any more.

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      An absolute bastard of a workout will use up maybe 100 on top of that

      An hour run burns like 600

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        At my weight (175 pounds) going 10k over an hour puts me at about this amount of calories. That’s 6.2 miles. I am in no way fit enough to be able to go that kind of distance, forget about the pace, which is sad to admit.

        At a 15 minute mile, I would burn 120 calories/mile.

        That’s not to say that you can’t burn significant calories exercising, it’s just that your average couch potato won’t be able to out of the gate. It’s far easier for me to reduce my intake by 120 calories/day than it jog a mile a day on average. Ideally you would do a bit of both.

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    Your beer belly, is it hard or jiggly?

    If it’s a hard beer belly, that means you have lots of visceral fat, fat inside the rib cage. This is a strong indicator of metabolic syndrome.

    The single best way to tackle that beer belly is to go low carb, this reduces your blood sugar, letting your insulin levels come down, allowing your body to actually function properly. The human body, really, really, really, really does not like visceral fat, and will remove it with urgency when allowed to.

    If you like data, buying a continuous glucose monitor, then playing a game where you keep your glucose as flat as possible all day. The beautiful thing about this is you get instant feedback and know exactly how well your doing.

    A absolutely great resource on doing this intervention is: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb

    This is the hormonal model of human metabolism, other people have mentioned calorie in calorie out CICO - which is technically correct, but practically unhelpful. Humans are amazing hormonal homeostasis machines, the hormones need to be functioning properly. You can eat 100 g of uranium, and have trillions of calories in your body, but you’re not going to be able to use it. It’s much better to get your hormones into balance and allow the body to self-correct and stay at optimal.

    The great thing about going low carb, is you will lose that visceral fat, your blood pressure will improve, sleep will improve, pre-diabetes will improve, sexual function will improve… Basically everything, the metabolism touches every part of the body! Insulin is extremely important, getting it into control has massive benefits.

    All of this! And you won’t even be hungry! If you’re doing low carb, you can eat as much as you want, as long as you keep your blood sugar down. BBQs steaks eggs bacon cheese, as much as you like at any time. Alcohol : avoid beers, if you must drink vodka or whiskey. – all of this works because your body will be able to tell you when you’re full. Have you ever eaten a steak, and it tastes absolutely delicious at the beginning, but the more you eat it the less and less delicious of tastes? That’s how all foods should be. that’s the human body self regulating. Sugar messes that system up!

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      Interesting. I would say yes it is more hard than jiggly, kind of i between but hard to say because of my small body size overall (5’7, 130lbs). I have an extremely high metabolism. I can eat whatever and dont necessarily gain extra weight. However I don’t drink alcohol, indent drink sodas, I try* to eat pretty healthy. But I love bread. So I eat a lot of bread, pastas etc.

      Hmm. But you have opened my eyes to do some research as I never would have expected something other than exercise effecting me. When I was younger I had a flat stomach and abs and over time my belly just grew and nothing else lol.

      I’ll check the the carbs stuff, I really appreciate it.

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        Assuming you’re an adult, you’re already well inside the normal range of weight for your height. Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more and you’re not eating all your hard work away. If you start feeling persistently fatigued, add a bit of carbs back to your diet. A little bit isn’t going to make your belly balloon back out. :) Good luck!

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          Based on that, it sounds like your eating habits aren’t terrible, so you are that unicorn that actually just needs to exercise more

          TOFI : thin outside fat inside : is very common! That is 100% diet based

          https://hackertalks.com/post/5592913

          Something like 92% of westerns don’t have optimal metabolic health… Which is a polite way of saying only 8% are perfectly healthy, and the rest are on the sliding scale of insulin resistance

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            Thank you for the correction. I somehow completely skipped over OP’s main text in their post and went right to inferring stuff from their other comments and thought maybe they were young and had some body image issues. 38, skinny, but a beer keg belly definitely sounds like diet.

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        Any time, happy to answer any questions you may have. You can look at your last lipid panel, and look at the TG/HDL ratio, if its less then 1 then your insulin sensitive, but the higher it is over 1, the more insulin resistant you are. Insulin sensitivity is the real measure of metabolic health!

        If you want to read more about this ratio https://hackertalks.com/post/5922188

        Some people who can’t do low carb do time restricted eating, or intermittent fasting, i.e. one or two meals per day. This can also improve your insulin levels, the longer you can go without sugar the better for the body. This works, but I think its doing it on hard mode, because its like edging with sugar cravings, but it works for people who can’t give up their breads :)

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        Hard vs jigggily is fairly straightforward to gauge. Sit down in jeans and a belt. Bonus points if neither stretch. Poke your belly near your belt. If it’s jigggily you will be able to palpitate some skin and fat before you get to a more solid layer. To make the transition even more obvious, flex your abs. If you have no idea what I’m on about, you have a hard belly.

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          if i poke my belly and flex my abs i can feel my abs flexing with my finger. so i would say its more squishy than jiggly. regardless. going to try low carb anyways lol. thank you

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            Is there a soft layer between your finger and abs that you can press through to get to your abs? It yes, jigggily and subconscious fat. If not, firm and visceral fat. Visceral is far worse for your health and is associated with higher carb diets.

            Low carb is an excellent way to drop weight, regardless of what kind of fat you have.

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      Agree so hard about low carb. That was my key to finally losing weight (FAST) and keeping it off for years.

      But what about jiggly fat? What’s the difference?

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        Jiggly fat, is excess adipose tissue. And that is also symptom of metabolic syndrome.

        Visceral fat, hard fat, is a stronger indicator. Simply because it’s really unhealthy for the organs, so the body really doesn’t want to put anything there if it can avoid it.

        I think people with jiggly fat know they’re unhealthy, it’s pretty obvious to them. But people of visceral fat can think they’re incredibly healthy, but not be. So it’s surprising for them.

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    sorry for hijacking, i am also interested in the subject, commenting here to hopefully get some info. i’m 174cm / 84kg. i wear medium clothes, but my beer muscle shows up, it’s quite big. even through a sweater.

    i don’t exercise (i work in it, from home mostly), but also, i barely eat. today i had 3 coffees (no sugar, little milk), some leftover stir fry (veggies, chicken, mie noodles) and an apple, and that’s common. i don’t eat sweets or junk food.

    i cook almost every day, usually curries & rice, stir fry, pizza/pasta, soups and stews, but i rarely eat myself. i switch daily between chicken/pork/seafood/tofu/legumes for protein, but there’s always rice or pasta or bread.

    i drink a couple beers in a week (on average), i drink very little water throughout the day, maybe half a liter.

    i sleep very little too, about 5h on average (less during the week, more on weekends).

    where should i start? what’s the most blatant issue on my list? i know, all, but… what would be the first?

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      You should go to your doctor so they’ll run some tests. It could be something medical and not just your diet and exercise. Plus you’ll get a baseline to compare later.

      Write down what you actually eat in a day and look up roughly how many calories it is in total. You can search ‘chicken calories’ and there are websites that will tell you how many in say 100g of chicken breast or thigh. You can use those sites to look up calories for each food item. Sometimes we don’t realize how much we actually eat. Or It could be a gland or hormonal problem which again needs medical attention.

      If you’re eating high carb, you can be building visceral fat. beer is just fermented bread. If you’ve been eating high carb, cut down to 100g of carbs per day or less. For me just cutting out the rice and making sure I had some sauce, salsa, etc to make sure the dish isn’t dry worked for me. I tried to stay closer to 50g of carbs per day, but unless you want to be a robot and eat the same dishes for 6 to 12 months, use it more as a guide line than a hard rule.

      Since your lowering your carbs, you can raise your protein and fat to feel full. No rice, bread, pasta will make your plate looks sad and empty. Fill it with veggies. I always sautee my veggies.

      As you lower your visceral fat, you’ll sleep better, which lowers your stress, which lowers your accumulation of visceral fat, which makes you sleep better, in a positive feed back loop which will give you energy and you can start taking walks. Which adds more positive feed back…

      TL;DR go to your doc. Eat more protein and veg. very little rice, pasta, bread. Try it for a month and see if you feel better

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        i did have some blood tests back in december. everything was within parameters for someone my age & gender.

        i’ll try the calories / carbs counting. based on how much i eat, i should be able to add it all up at the end of the day. i remember 10-15 years ago i dropped the sugar from my coffee and also stopped eating bread for a few weeks, and i dropped a few kg. i do eat veggies, it’s not just protein with rice. my kids love a salad with olive oil and lemon juice, and my stir fries and curries also have plenty of them. but noted!

        thanks a lot for the tips!

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      The most blatant issue is not exercising. You don’t have to do anything drastic but adding an evening walk to your routine and changing nothing else would be really beneficial for you. If you added a few hours of walking per week and dropped the beer completely that would definitely tip the scales in your favour and you would see the weight dropping.

      I would expect those two changes would benefit your sleep too

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        thanks! i commute once or twice per week to the office, and that’s some train, some walking. i average 5k steps per day, but with 10k when I go to the office. yesterday i did just under 1k.

        i did check in with a specialist regarding my sleeping issues. it’s… complicated, but i’m working on it, part medication, part cpap machine :)

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      The most blatant issue is the low water intake and the low sleep. Increasing the sleep and the water will help dramatically.

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        thanks! i am trying to, i got a large refillable bottle, but “i can’t be bothered” to refill it when it’s empty, my hyper focus keeps me glued to my chair… if i’m thirsty, i just take another cold coffee sip… 🤦‍♂️

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          unironically, most guys I know with the same problem just go for the novelty oversized bottles. seems to suit them well, and in a pinch the aluminum ones make for a hell of a club :D

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    There’s a really good video on this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSSkDos2hzo

    Adding a little exercise to your life is rarely a bad thing, but to shift fat diet change is the big one.

    Here’s one that will have a steady impact - drink an extra glass of water with each meal (helps you feel full for longer), and invest in an apple corer (for easy apple snacks) - aim for an apple a day. It’s helping me slowly lose body fat by reducing caloric intake.