• key@lemmy.keychat.org
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      7 months ago

      It is by most definitions I can find. Why would being a “subscription based business” exclude it from that? Most social media sites are companies and monetization by subscriptions with revenue sharing is far from rare.

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          It is lmao only the tip top percentile makes any money, and guess what? Literally everyone who subscribes is begging for meetups and waving $1000. They’re all psychos with no sense of how easy it would be to fuck if they let go of their need to fuck with other people

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                You admit to being a consoomer?

                Takes one to know one huh

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                  ??? I use my imagination like a normal person. I don’t need to watch sex tapes of prostitutes or from dubious sources sorted by shitty silicon valley startups for surveillance purposes.

                  As for personal experience when I was two years younger and stupid I was dating an autistic agoraphobic camgirl lol, only way for her and a lot of disabled people to survive, but anecdotes abt it being a shitty pyramid scheme aren’t the entirety of my issue with chaturbate/onlyfans/etc, nor is it opening women up to more serious & endangering prostitution, it’s a shitty startup and a cover for HUMAN TRAFFICKING THRU HOTEL NETWORKS.

                  The ppl behind onlyfans and hotels etc are criminals. They will launder trafficking victims no problem. Already have. Children too.

                  Just the tip of the iceberg really

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                    All of your statements are subjective opinions and it appears that you did not learn how to differentiate that from objective fact.

                    Here, I’ll demonstrate. I’ll ask you a question you can’t answer.

                    You used the term “normal people”. Please define “normal people” and of course be sure not to use your own biases and belief systems to do so. Define it so that it is true for every person reading this post, in every country, every religion, every sexual orientation, every gender. Simply define “normal”.

                    Spoiler, you can’t, because normal is a concept relative to the current society within which you exist, colored by all of your biases and societal conceptual scaffolding that, while you can develop yourself and become aware of, you haven’t. Clearly.

                    So now, if your reading comprehension and intelligence level permits it… (big “if” in your case but I’ll take a gamble on ya)… you can see that the foundation for your entire statement is exclusive to your own mind. How special! The arbiter of taste themselves is here!

                    Why does this matter? Well, if we are basing ideas off the subjective opinion of one person (dictatorship intensifies), who should we choose? What if their idea of normal excludes your existence? How would they treat you? Do you see the err in pursuing this type of thought now? It naturally leads to a single point of failure.

                    Let’s continue, for the benefit of others largely because I assume at this point I have lost you. So, how would a person who agrees with you know what to define as normal and abnormal if you are not present? To what authority would they appeal? I imagine your answer to this question would be illuminating with regards to who taught you what the nonexistent idea of “normal” is.

                    But anyway, that is enough. Look at your post scores. Your shit is wildly unpopular and hopefully this gives you +1% exp closer to realizing that you are not a clever person. You’re just an angry monkey who wants others to conform to your idea of reality. Your subjective… biased… boring… unpopular… unenlightened… reality.

                    Very few people want to hear what you have to say and the ones that do are made dumber for attempting to untangle your pocketed-headphone-cable mess of “ideas”.

                    TLDR, “When being called stupid by dozens of people, do you ever pause and ask yourself, ‘What if they are right’?”

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                    like a normal person.

                    I wonder what else you consider a ‘normal person’ doesn’t do when it comes to sexual activity?

                    Foot feitishism? BSDSM? Food play?

                    How about just plain old gay sex? Not something a ‘normal person’ would do?

                    I’m just wondering where you draw your line about ‘normal’ sexuality.

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        Can I/you pay the models on OnlyFans to have sex with them? No.

        Then it’s not prostitution. Porn stars are not prostitutes either. Sex work doesn’t make you a prostitute. That’s a very specific line of work and this ain’t it.

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          Oh if you’re confused about what I mean it immediately places people looking for a side gig in a position to make less money than they expect and get solicited for prostitution while exposing themselves online in a way that causes big issues in other careers

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        How fucking misogynistic do you have to be for a take like this?

        Women aren’t a bunch of bumbling simpletons. They aren’t “tricked into prostitution by OnlyFans”

        It can’t possibly be that women do things of their own free will! They must be stupid, infantile victims who need to be protected and guided at every moment why white knights such as yourself, otherwise they’ll do stupid things!

        Your brand of misogyny is probably the most frustrating, because you actually think you’re right. You aren’t. You’re just treating women like babies who can’t make the right choices unless society/men tell them what those choices should be.

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          Yawn, basic libertarian free market capitalist argument transmuted into feminism psychobabble.

          You do a poor imitation of thinking. People turn to pornography and prostitution for money. Prostitution carries a higher risk so people are clearly more reluctant.

          This is studied by actual people in my field, want to read some German John forums where they talk about their legalized prostitutes? All this sex work political nonsense is a strategy for mass prostitution. They complain about how they are all sore and have fucked up backs. Charming stuff. It’s all recorded by sociologists. Nobody is looking to the Germans for social or industrial or economic policy anymore I hope. Complete joke of a country.

          Don’t forget you are focusing on bringing back sex work at a time when we are losing basic human rights like anti child labor in so called first world countries

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            I have multiple friends who worked in strip clubs when we were in college together. It helped them pay for their tuition. As far as I know, not one of them has ever worked as a prostitute.

            How can this be based on your claim? Are my friends special in this regard?

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            I’m pretty far from a libertarian free market capitalist. I’m not sure how you’d infer that from a comment criticising your misogyny.

            But nice attempt at an ad-hominem regardless.

            And I also don’t know why you seem to think I’m German or why calling Germany a joke of a country would be a compelling counter-argument to being called sexist.

            Clearly your brain isn’t working. And yet you want to make choices on behalf of women lmao.

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              Lol, no you’re not that far from them. It’s meant to be an insulting comparison about how obliviously you pick up these arguments under the guise of feminism and use paper thin arguments.

              I don’t think you’re German. Good luck learning to read.

              Oh, I want to make choices for women? You want to buy them, incel.

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              You should look up the Nordic model at least after you learn to read. It’s not the best but it’s a lot better than sleazy Silicon Valley startup & Las Vegas takes on social justice you repeat. Because you know they’re actually backed up by sociologists who study people forced into selling their bodies online or in person

              They do of course study the people who do it as a hobby & act as hooker emadams spreading this pyramid scheme who are more well off and help to launder these services that serve up trafficked women in Romania at a steep discount and give everything to the pimps and OF

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                You keep saying pyramid scheme, without qualifying why it’s a pyramid scheme.

                That just makes you seem like you are clutching your pearls.

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            Hold up, back pain and being sore qualifies this as a horrible job and a pyramid scheme?

            Every day I drive to work I see prostitutes lined up on the side of the road whoring their bodies out for money. It takes a big toll on their bodies, I sure as shit wouldnt do it.

            But hey, SOMEBODY has to fix our roads, eh?