America’s first camp…in 83 years.
Thanks conservatives.
It won’t be the last
It’s sorta like a camp, but concentrated on one type of person…
There should be a name for such a thing
Maybe a motto.
Maybe something like “Work will set you free.”Or “To each their own”.
What does this reference?
That was written on the gate at the Buchenwald concentration camp (“Jedem das Seine”)
Ah, I didn’t know this one. I only knew work will set you free. Thank you
Bloody sickening.
I don’t know anything but isn’t Guantanamo Bay, like, kinda small?
That’s only an issue if you assume they’ll be treated with any humanity
At it’s peak it held about 800 prisoners, kinda impossibly small for the numbers discussed here.
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This feels like “how many dead babies can you fit in a trash can?”
Depends on how good your blender is.
I must’ve missed that episode of “Will it Blend”.
Doesn’t matter how many beds they have, Trump doesn’t want them making it past the showers.
But I’m sure there will be all sorts of bipartisan and humanitarian oversight. Right?
Right?
It’s not like you can just make a single “undocumented” person disappear. Let alone their whole nuclear family. What would the rest of their family say?
Probably “can I crash in your attic”.
I think that’s a bonus for Trump. Also, Cuba should reject our lease on the land.
To the best of my knowledge, although the U.S. makes “lease payments” on the land the prison sits on, they do not have the authorization of the Cuban government, which in turn has not cashed those checks.
Don’t worry, they’ll find a way to pack people in. Maybe some kind of high energy weight loss system like their role models used in the 1940s?
This is bad juju. The detention camps from the first cycle with this fascists was nothing on what we’re seeing ramping up here.
Don’t worry, they’ll find a way to pack people in. Maybe some kind of high energy weight loss system like their role models used in the 1940s?
I’m sure they are already working on the final solution.
Now I want someone to ask trump “what’s your final solution for these people?”
All the better for them to die faster of unliveable conditions, it seems
Yes, it’s a camp where he plans to concentrate people.
Wasn’t trump one of the Obama critics demanding him to close it?
Yes, but that’s because he apparently wanted it cleared out so that American citizens could be “accidentally” put there instead.
But it’s OK because it’s Trump doing it not Biden.
Oh yeah, that place Joe Biden ran on closing (archived) and then promptly forgot about, cool cool cool
Fuck both of those shitty plutocrat parties, all the time.
The place Obama said he would close and didn’t? That place!
And by “forgot about,” you mean negotiated the release of 65% of the prisoners? He was literally on pace to clear the place out in his second term. But you knew that, I’m sure.
I’m definitely not voting for him now.
Good because if you did it would mean that you LoVe GeNoCiDe
Now we get both foreign and domestic genocide! Best of both worlds.
That’s what so many people tried to tell these dumbasses (that weren’t just plants), but nooooo, they wanted to lecture everyone on how pure and holy they were by not voting for anyone, because “genocide”.
Cool.
I’m so glad I remained morally pure!!
Guantanamo Bay… the blacksite for literal terrorists that is considered highly controversial for literal terrorists? What the actual fuck.
The blacksite for innocent people kidnapped and tortured for 20+ years by the US without allegations and then released*
Indeed, not that it wasn’t actually filled with victims, more that people who think it specifically houses terrorists think it is unfit/illegal for that purpose.
This is the Bibby Stockholm all over again
Concentration camp/torture camp.
Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.
All the big, strong, don’t-tread-on-me styled people just rolling on their backs and showing their bellies to fascism. What a time to be alive, at least Germans of the 1920s-30s didn’t have a direct case study to refer to.
It’s always been “doing tread on me”
Its worse in some ways, the US is a far bigger country. While the 3rd reich destroyed their economy under the repayment plans of WW1 The US seems to be committing a similar kind of economic suicide with absolutely zero pressure to do so.
Mark my words- queer people will be next.
…maybe we can talk about the immigrants for a moment without this being about anything else?
Some of us are able to keep more than one concern in our heads at a time.
So no, I’m not going to ignore the oppression of queer people just because you don’t want their existence brought up.
Also, you do know that some of those immigrants are queer, right? Did you assume they were all cishet?
100%. If you look at the language they’re using to describe trans people in their EOs it’s clear as day where they’re heading and considering they’ve begun holding trans people’s passports indefinitely- they don’t want us escaping.
Someone in another thread is literally telling me queer people have nothing to fear because, according to them, nothing serious has happened yet.
And they and others give me shit for getting my gay daughter out of the country because I’m supposed to put Palestinians (who I work my ass off to help) ahead of my own child. Which, and I’m not sure they understand this, is neglect and generally frowned upon by child protective services.
There are definitely others that seem to participate in these discussions with the sole goal of upsetting people wearing a veneer of of leftist politics while lacking any seeming empathy. I tend to doubt their motives when they seem to only have compassion for some and not all
How did you get out of the country if you don’t mind me asking? I have no idea where I would start if I needed to leave. I’d prefer to go to a blue state if I could but of course that might not be an option. Also do you miss living in the US?
I am lucky because of this: https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-before-1983
However, we are living on my savings until I get a job and my wife had to stay behind for now. My daughter can be here on a travel visa for six months and we will be out of money in three. I need a job that makes at least £29,000 a year to get a family visa for the two of them.
We’ve also only been here since the inauguration, so I am not all that homesick so far (I miss my wife and our dogs). Also I am just in awe of how nice and helpful people are here. I really didn’t realize the exact extent of American self-entitlement asshole culture until we got here and everyone has been friendly and helpful. Even the drunks.
That does sound nice. Hopefully you’re able to find some work and you’re able to get the rest of your family soon!!
I hope so, thanks!
I don’t get it, what does you moving to the UK have to do with helping Palestinians?
Apparently you should care more about Palestinians than your own queer child because there is no genocide of queer people in America even though it’s literally already started… but it’s not like those people actually give a shit about Palestinians. They’re just a pawn in their need to berate strangers on the internet.
I pointedly ask them what they are doing about the genocide since I work my ass off contacting politicians. It’s very clear that not only have most of them not done shit, most of them have never even talked to a Palestinian.
They also don’t seem to realize (or maybe care) that there are queer Palestinians. In America. At risk right now. Also in Palestine. But I guess they’ll be just fine.
Ah, the usual bad faith crap where some people decide that one particular tragedy out of the thousands happening all over the world right now is all you should care about. They’re just like the single-issue voters that helped Trump get elected.
Very much that, yes.
Trans women specifically, the others are safe for a few more years then it will be their turn.
😢 I’d guess trans women and all unhoused people could be the first casualties, potentially involving cheap prison labour within the US to replace externally detained migrants. Why is it so easy to think of worst case scenarios but so hard to think of ways to stop this?
Democrats could actually campaign on healthcare for all, living wages and stop trying to restrict gun ownership for the working class. But here we are. But then they’d have to actually help poor people instead of trapping them in cycles of dependency, and tax the rich. There’s a reason they shut Bernie down. Their owners don’t like those things.
I meant before elections come (and that’s assuming they don’t find a way to undermine those as well). All I can think of is how Michelle Obama quoted MLK Jr. and said to honour his legacy by getting involved in local community, honouring the other important day of the year that it was, rather than commenting on the inauguration directly.
HomosexualityQueerdom is aJewishimmigrant plot againstGermanythe US.It’s practically fascist mad libs.
The path to that easier than you might think. Just get the propaganda mill talking about Thai ladyboys and black-market hormones a bit. They love little talking points that are are rooted in preconceptions and tiny slivers of half-truths that they can contort to fit their agenda…to expand on and then justify their actions.
They are fun to pick out. The other day Trump claimed that the ominous “they” were sending water directly to the ocean to save an endangered fish instead of to LA to fight fires.
That endangered fish is called a Delta Smelt. “Delta”, as in a river delta, as found at the end of a river…you know, that thing that carries said water to the ocean.
Oh I see what he is doing here, screw over 30.000 people, then send them over to their biggest enemies to learn a how to take revenge. America collapse soeedrun
Both the most US thing you could possibly do AND a gross violation of what the US aspires to be.
*aspired
I’m still not clear what the first “A” in maga is supposed to reference, seeing what’s happening these days. All I know is that it’s clearly not “America” or a reference to the US.
It’s the “G” that’s confusing you. “Great” in this context means “Christian White Nationalist.”
Aryans
spits on ground
Oops look at me I meant to spit on A’murica but I must have missed because I hit stolen indigenous land that was brutally and horrifically ripped from the hands of normal, good people who looked a bit different and lived in funny houses.
…and then stolen again from immigrants who came here and were foolish or desperate enough to believe they would be included in the prosperity they spent extraordinary amounts of effort building…
Third time is the charm?
“Again”
As an added note, they deported multiple children to Colombia the other day. Half the people they’ve arrested in specific areas have zero criminal records. Some are even US citizens. This is not for immigrants, this a Latino concentration camp.
I know two people first hand who have been here for over 30 years with no criminal records who are being detained. These are the people being sent to Guantanamo.
Some are even US citizens.
Some are indigenous.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
“It’s too kind to say it’s racism or discrimination. It’s disrespect for humanity.”
for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republicans voters being appalled by this too, right? Right?
They’ll claim they disagree with it and they don’t like Trump (except for -insert all his policies-) and then vote for him for a third term when he makes that legal. They need to pretend not to salivate about oppressing brown people when they are in polite company but that’s about it.
Some of the single-issue voters probably are, but not enough to actually vote against their single issue in the future.
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62% of the country supports deporting all illegals. Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago is now true for most Americans.
A strong majority of the country supports putting millions of people in camps and keeping them there for years. Of course GOP is more fervently against it- the same GOP that idolizes Reagan who gave blanket citizenship to millions of illegals.
Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago
The GOP’s propaganda really did a number on easily manipulated Americans. Turns out, the internet was a really, really good tool to spread hatred.
100% of that 62% have no idea at all what is going to happen to many services they depend on. Doesn’t matter if it’s the price of food on the table going up because the farm workers disappeared or the person disappearing who has the necessary but unglamorous job of cleaning bedpans at the nursing home, they’re all very important jobs that people will miss immediately, and they can often be done by migrants or illegal workers.
Yes, for most of my life I thought we would never get rid of the illegals for precisely this reason. They are so integrated into our economy that eliminating them would cause a huge fallout. Almost 15 million people here. And they’re dramatically over-represented in specific industries.
So for example, you mentioned food. Agriculture, especially in the SW, runs on illegal labor. Construction all over the country runs on illegal labor. The people washing dishes at restaurants, the people cleaning up offices at night, the people working at landscaping companies, etc.
All of those industries are about to experience a severe supply shock of labor. This is going to mean increased prices for food, for landscaping, for construction, etc. Not only that, the services are going to be increasingly harder to staff. It’s really hard to find an American willing to relocate to rural areas to dig holes. It’s hard to find ones that are willing to pick fruit, etc.
Not to mention the effect that 15 million less consumers eating at local restaurants, buying products from Amazon, paying rent, will have.
And the worst part of it, the part that scares me, is that I’m certain Trump and his allies know this. They are entirely aware of the potential consequences of what they are doing. It does not take an economic savant to understand this and certainly Trump has some very smart advisors around him. So they are aware and they are doing it anyway.
What does that imply? That means they are willing to nuke our economy for this (throw in tariffs too while we’re at it). And when I say nuke I mean nuke- there’s no going back after this. We’re causing permanent long-term structural damage. Why would he be willing to do this?
I fear because there’s a lot worse on the horizon. Global war will overshadow the economic fallout from these decisions and will be pointed to as the cause of the near-future economic woes. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here, but this is not a good omen. It’s sort of like suicidal people giving away all their money before they off themselves. It’s a red flag.
I think we’re fucked with a capital F
Wouldn’t be surprised. Never waste a crisis. Nationalize things, martial law. Who knows what power grabs trump would make.
They’ll just refuse to acknowledge it
Yes.
Nah. If there’s a percentage of conservatives who have come to realize the mistake they’ve made, it’s vanishingly small.
We’re talking about a group of people uniformly ignorant and hateful. You have to be to support the conservative ideology. Those are prerequisites.
Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.
And I don’t mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they’re generally morons.
I can’t even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American’s intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to “translate” for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like “industrious” or “ambivalent” every day, over and over. AND I’M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.
Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven’t even touched the bottom yet.
Yup.
Remove Donald Trump and Republicans from the equation and you still have a nation overflowing with unrealistically ignorant and hateful people.
That problem doesn’t go away with whoever’s in charge of our politics.
Our situation is 100% guaranteed to get much, much worse. And probably for the rest of our lives.
I knew the concentration camps were coming, but just after ten days? Holy shit
The faster they move the more they can get done before their opponents can mobilise resistance.
I would say that so far, there appears to be much less public resistance to Republican policies than in previous years. The Democrats appear to be at sea. The left’s working class base is split. Public institutions are too busy protecting their turf, making gestures at cooperating with the new world order rather than trying to resist.
It feels like last time there was an assumption that Trump and MAGA politics were a blip or aberration from the norm, now there’s an acceptance that they’re institutionalised.
Trump and MAGA politics
Maybe the language we use to describe them is itself normalising and pacifying. Like calling a Nazi salute a “hand gesture.”
I would suggest “a criminal dictator and fascist politics” as a substitute in your sentence to provoke an acceptable, proportionate reaction.
He is not quite a dictator yet. Let’s call him an aspiring dictator, to make it clear that action can still prevent it from getting that bad.
I like it.
Rather unfortunately, the mass deportations was one of the most popular parts of Trump’s platform. Everybody knows mass deportation comes with concentration camps. It’s not that his voters are unaware of it, they actively love it!
Honestly, I was expecting them in less time. Like 2-3 days in.
