… which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,
it’s politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.
Not surprising. As long as they can afford the servers, it will probably get to Mastadon levels.
Lemmy is a replacement for reddit, and reddit was always much smaller than Instagram.
Hopefully people are willing to donate to their instances to keep them financially healthy. It’ll be a pretty big issue for growth if it starts to get popular but the larger instances can’t afford to stay operational and disappear.
Good for pixelfed
Why are you mad, Lemmy.ml and its constant propaganda and misinformation is one of the main reasons Lemmy isn’t thriving.
Try not to project .world on .ml for 5 seconds difficulty level impossible
This meme sucks.
LW dwarfes Lemmy.ml by any possible metric
It’s just that IG is much more popular than Reddit, so the Fediverse equivalents have the same ratio
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Neat, is there a way to share from Immich to Pixelfed?
Manually copy and paste?
Immich is a photo storage software and the other is social media site.
How about an Immich integration, e.g. a button that says “Share via my PixedFed account” or even just the icon that would then post it on your behalf?
People share photos and videos all the time on mastodon. What is the difference with pixelfed?
It’s like saying “people share photos and videos all the time on Twitter. What is the difference with Instagram?”
So one is for spreading right wing propaganda and one is for shilling knockoff perfumes?
One split the focus on text and pictures of all kind, one focuses on photos
As a software guy, that just sounds like one bit of software with two audiences that call it different things.
Everyone seems to be stepping on each others toes anyway, with “reels” and shit trying desperately to claw back some of those kids lost to TikTok.
Honestly not sure why the Fediverse is split that way either. A Lemmy client surely contains about 99% of the code to be a Mastodon client or Loops or Pixelfed or any of the others. Just looks like a procession of people constantly reinventing the wheel and painting it a different colour…
Pixelfed allows video?
Yes. No transcoding, but that’s actually a feature as far as I’m concerned.
Different vibes. I am really liking the pixelfed UI.
Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.
People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.
Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.
Every one of these federated apps needs a strong meme feed. Just an endless stream of shitposts and funny content. Doesn’t need to be doomscrolling, just needs to be a constantly available source of low effort junk food content
Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky
It is simple and free of bloat. I like it much better than that youtube shorts analog I can’t remember the name of.
Runs much faster than java BlueSky, the destroyer of batteries.
Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.
The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials
This is cool, seems to work pretty well, and an easy way to find communities you want to subscribe to
Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.
Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)
I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.
You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.
Maybe a CDN funded through a few non-profits, never looked into it
Hell yeah! 2025 is the year of the
linuxFediversedesktop!Looks really cool, just discovered something liket his existed.
I was curious what the other apps were, found the list: https://fedidb.org/software
Any entry into the Fediverse is a good one!
Gateway drug!
One question, does LBRY (The protocol powering Odysee) count as something Federated ?
There was a github request to integrate lbry into fedi, but it never gained any traction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png
So, no, they’re not in the fediverse and don’t interconnect with the other players.
Here are the current places that play well together.
Odysee had a shot at making it bigger than it was, but it’s really drowning in bad (moral and qualty) content. They never really recovered from their crypto scheme, once the SEC started looking into them, they got screwed. I’m down with the idea of paying creators in crypto, but they were selling it as a security.
Would you be glad to know that LBRY is trying to revive itself
I wish them the best of luck. Back when they were well funded, they had a hard time staying up without servers. I hope they sort it out.
it’s all fascists and cryptobros
Does Odysee even use LBRY anymore? They abandoned the desktop app a while ago and I’m not sure how else you can use the protocol
(if so, then assuming everything is on Odysee then it’s about as federated as Bluesky)
Well… LBRY is hosting a fundraiser to revive & strengthen the project. Including setting up nodes for Charity purposes like for Public Domain stuff
My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.
They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.
Mastodon has third-party starter packs now. I wonder if it works for Pixelfed?
I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.
I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”
Not sure when he sleeps
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
Is there federated Tumblr? @Newbuild@lemmy.nz is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media
Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.
The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself
Sorry, genuinely forgot what tumblr even does/is lol.
lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with
If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
Incorrect, I’m on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Can they not see you? Or is it just piracy stuff
Just the one community about piracy. The rest can be seen both ways
That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.
The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. They two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.
Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.
Does this help?
I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.
Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.
By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.
You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.
I’m genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they’ve been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.
Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.
I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.
All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.
Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best “social” platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don’t really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what’s new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.
That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.
With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.
I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.
Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.
Storage costs keeps getting cheaper, but high quality video keeps taking up more space.
It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.
Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
Does anyone have recommendations who to follow on pixelfed?
I’m uploading shit daily. At least I’ll keep your feed busy.
Yesterday I revived my old Pixelfed account, and I have set myself a challenge, upload one photo every day for a month.
I have plenty of photos from the last decade to pick from
I don’t know if this will mean that my account will be active in the long run, but I’ll give it an honest try.
I posted this earlier in the thread:
https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062
@stoy@pxlmo.com
Yeah dude me obviously. @mayur@pixelfed.social
