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I been using gsudo for quite sometime, the default way to leverage privaliges in Windows is cancer, the whole shell is tbh.
It is an ergonomic and familiar solution for users who want to elevate a command without having to first open a new elevated console.
Yeah Microsoft, how exactly is it familiar for Windows users? 😜
I just use Scoop’s sudo
sudon’t
They are tired of right clicking Command Prompt to “Run as Administrator”. They’ve been doing it for decades, they can have one tiny piece of QoL improvement.
Sudo is the “please” of Linux.
for me, it’s “per my last email”
Honestly, it’s hardly newsworthy given how sudo was a thing in windows for quite a while now. I use it pretty often, especially
sudo pwshfor elevated shells.sudo!!
ah finally our imposters are in senior positions
Honestly idc about sudo in windows bc i already disable the UAC totally, so… everything in my windows run as root like Windows XP era
You do you, but it’s not anywhere as rough of an experience leaving it enabled as things used to be back then. This also exponentially increases the risk factor that some malware will fuck your shit right up.
I also wouldn’t advertise it either. Like telling facebook that you never lock your door.
Malware issue…NOPE
Stability issue…NOPE
Actually i’ve been doing this since Win7 era & never got any malware/spyware/ransomware bc i know what I’m doing exactly.
Actually the people who afraid about malware itself because people always visit some shady website, clicking shady links, & install shady software from it without knowing at allMalware issue........Not yet Stability issue..........NOPEFixed that for you
Well i hope i never get malware
It’s been 12 years streak that’s i never got any malware on my PC/Laptop with UAC disabled permanently + only using NOD32/ESET as my daily antivirus (I don’t like others antivirus even if it’s from Microsoft)You probably already have no-click cryptojacking malware from a malvertisement and don’t even know it.
You wanna know what’s way more effective than any anti-virus? An ad blocker + common sense. Unironically, the FBI & CISA tell you to use Adblock.
I haven’t used any anti-virus at all on Windows, Linux, or MacOS for the past maybe 10ys. What’s funny is that anti-virus is never 100% accurate and tends to slow down your computer. What’s even funnier, is that Windows built-in anti-virus “Windows Defender” is already the most effective AV rendering any extra AV completely redundant & pointless.Well i used adblocker with custom filter & script in it + i already masking my host & DNS for total secure. Even i already using it since before internet became suck
I got your point other antivirus other than Windows Defender is suck, but i really trust ESET/NOD32 because I’ve ben using it from really long time (20 years exactly) & it never got any issue since beginning
never got any …/spyware/…
You use Windows, the spyware is already baked in. Windows profiles you & phones home and 3rd party companies the moment it gets an Internet connection, even in the installation environment.
Well you right, but i already disabled all that telemetry things + total debloat my windows
The best thing about this is that this will be available in enterprise environment which obviously can’t disable UAC. Disabling it is incredibly stupid on a personal machine, but doing it in an enterprise environment is a death sentence.
Its been a thing for a while on windows 10 as well https://github.com/gerardog/gsudo
Fuck yeah. I already use gsudo on my private Windows installation, but I didn’t install it on my work PC for obvious reason. Now I get to use it there as well. Fantastic
I bet you not even sudo could remove edge. edge is like the breathing lungs and thinking brain and balls of computer
You used to be able to >winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge
But the problem is Edge would still come back every time Windows had an update.
I hope the EU DMA update fixes that.
It supposedly allows you to uninstall more stuff.
Let’s hope it’s not region locked, or if it is, maybe at least trivial to bypass.
“This action is forbidden. The incident has been reported.”
And then MS sends goons to your house to break your legs
That’s an unpalatable response - instead you’re sentenced to 10 hours of Browser Reeducation classes
HTTP is stored in the balls
And, knowing Windows, won’t let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. “Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”
“Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!”
We’ll be able to in April, due to EU regulations 🥳
Amazing, isn’t it? Just a bit of legal pressure, and impossible things suddenly are easy to do.
Sudo rm -rf c: --no-preserve-root
More like
sudo rm -rf C: --no-preserve-C-driveImagine opening up your case and the C drive just fucking vanished
Embrace, extend, extinguish. Fucking microcrap
…what?
I’m always aboard the Microsoft hate train, but I don’t see how them adding sudo fits within EEE. Here’s an excerpt from microsoft/sudo on Github:
Obviously, everything about permissions and the command line experience is different between Windows and Linux. This project is not a fork of the Linux sudo project, nor is it a port of the Linux sudo project. Instead, Sudo for Windows is a Windows-specific implementation of the sudo concept.
As the two are entirely different applications, you’ll find that certain elements of the Linux sudo experience are not present in Sudo for Windows, and vice versa.
Despite sharing a name and features, they’re for two completely separate platforms and offer no interoperability. If MS decided to release their version of sudo for Linux, maybe we could talk about EEE. For now, all they’ve done is implement a useful tool from another platform into theirs, and that’s a (rare) positive for MS, even if this feature should have existed like 30 years ago.
Linux subsystem for windows… Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.
It’s 100% per of EEE, subtle as not to make users like you freak out.
MS won’t do anything that doesn’t help them make more money / more usersLinux subsystem for windows
If you wanted to talk about EEE regarding Linux subsystem for Windows, you probably should specify that. I share your misgivings about WSL, but this thread is about sudo for Windows which is another thing entirely.
Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.
I have a hard time imagining Linux users switching to Windows because of a feature Linux has had since its inception. Of course MS won’t do anything that doesn’t increase their profits, that’s what corporations do. Implementing “new” features is a way of attracting more users, sure, but I still fail to see any way in which sudo for Windows fits the EEE scheme. “Embrace, extend, extinguish” refers to specific predatory business practices, it’s not shorthand for “everything I dislike about capitalism and the tech industry” and using it as such kinda dilutes its original meaning.
Seriously open your fucking eyes…
Maybe you could open your “fucking” eyes and read what I replied to you? 😊
I fully agree with you that Microsoft is a blight on the tech world and that they are no friends of free and/or open source software. Nowhere in my previous replies did I disagree with you on that.
I simply disagree with the idea that “Microsoft sudo” falls under the definition of “Embrace, extend, and extinguish”. Is it a bit shitty that they named it sudo rather than something else? Yeah.
Like I said, EEE is not an umbrella term for “bad thing big tech company does”. Here’s a definition for you, from the Wikipedia page I linked in a previous comment:
[…] strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors.
Please, tell me how MS sudo, which is for a different platform than sudo and doesn’t not offer any interoperability between the two, falls under this definition?
If you’re this hostile to someone who practically agrees with you on every point except your use of the term “embrace, extend, extinguish”, I guess I understand why some Windows users perceive Linux users as fanatic zealots. I’m on your side!!
Yeah was harsh, having some shit times right now and sometimes it comes out on here rather than IRL. Sorry.
It’s the fact they are adding familiar elements, it has shit to do with interoperability, probably just for now. Its MS were talking about
And I’m just a dumb windows user man, been too lazy to make the transition.
Hey no worries, we all have our bad days. Props for owning up to it! Apologies if I ever came off as rude as well.
Hope you feel better soon 💕
Will this not dilute search results related to sudo? It’s minor but I think could be considered EEE.
Microsoft has done this already for tons of windows applications. For example, open up powershell and run “curl”. It’s a http downloader program, but not the one you think of, and the args are completely different. This has been the case for years, yet you can still find answers for curl problems by searching. I don’t see this being any different.
I can definitely see this argument, but I strongly suspect the inverse will be true; finding results for MS sudo which aren’t about Linux might be difficult.
After all, sudo has existed for a long time. Also, I assume over 90% of people who use Linux uses or has used sudo, whereas a tiny fraction of Windows users will ever use MS sudo.
Sounds like a bit of a desperate reach to attach the EEE label to this.
Desperation is when there is no reason to think something can be done. I’m way past the stage of assuming honest intentions from M$. If this comes to bite us like EEE then shame on us.
To be honest, it just sounds like you have an unnecessary chip on your shoulder.
It’s up to me to decide my friend from my foe, appears justified and important to me.
