• n3m37h@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    Linux subsystem for windows… Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

    It’s 100% per of EEE, subtle as not to make users like you freak out.
    MS won’t do anything that doesn’t help them make more money / more users

    • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      Linux subsystem for windows

      If you wanted to talk about EEE regarding Linux subsystem for Windows, you probably should specify that. I share your misgivings about WSL, but this thread is about sudo for Windows which is another thing entirely.

      Making it easier to stay off Linux, adding similar elements to Linux to appeal to Linux users.

      I have a hard time imagining Linux users switching to Windows because of a feature Linux has had since its inception. Of course MS won’t do anything that doesn’t increase their profits, that’s what corporations do. Implementing “new” features is a way of attracting more users, sure, but I still fail to see any way in which sudo for Windows fits the EEE scheme. “Embrace, extend, extinguish” refers to specific predatory business practices, it’s not shorthand for “everything I dislike about capitalism and the tech industry” and using it as such kinda dilutes its original meaning.

        • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Maybe you could open your “fucking” eyes and read what I replied to you? 😊

          I fully agree with you that Microsoft is a blight on the tech world and that they are no friends of free and/or open source software. Nowhere in my previous replies did I disagree with you on that.

          I simply disagree with the idea that “Microsoft sudo” falls under the definition of “Embrace, extend, and extinguish”. Is it a bit shitty that they named it sudo rather than something else? Yeah.

          Like I said, EEE is not an umbrella term for “bad thing big tech company does”. Here’s a definition for you, from the Wikipedia page I linked in a previous comment:

          […] strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences in order to strongly disadvantage its competitors.

          Please, tell me how MS sudo, which is for a different platform than sudo and doesn’t not offer any interoperability between the two, falls under this definition?

          If you’re this hostile to someone who practically agrees with you on every point except your use of the term “embrace, extend, extinguish”, I guess I understand why some Windows users perceive Linux users as fanatic zealots. I’m on your side!!

          • n3m37h@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah was harsh, having some shit times right now and sometimes it comes out on here rather than IRL. Sorry.

            It’s the fact they are adding familiar elements, it has shit to do with interoperability, probably just for now. Its MS were talking about

            And I’m just a dumb windows user man, been too lazy to make the transition.

            • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              Hey no worries, we all have our bad days. Props for owning up to it! Apologies if I ever came off as rude as well.

              Hope you feel better soon 💕