• BertramDitore@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    It’d be much better for him to just stay quiet and fade away into obscurity. Every word out of his mouth since that absurd debate has hurt him, his party, and the country at large. His legacy will not be what he hopes.

    Biden may not be super-wealthy, but his presidency is a reflection of our country’s political stagnation. And while he’s no oligarch, he’s certainly the poster boy for elite entitlement to power.

    Just a reminder, only a few days ago, Biden still said he would have beaten Trump. This man is not living in reality anymore.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 days ago

    President Biden warns of ‘oligarchy’ as he bids farewell to five decades in politics service to the oligarch-beholden establishment

    Fixed it for them.

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      10 days ago

      If we allowed Biden and the DNC to write the tax plans it would have made billionaires eat shit. Instead the country reelected the guys who made the last awful tax plan just as it expires next year.

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        If we allowed Biden and the DNC to write the tax plans

        We did. As usual, they didn’t do what they and people like yourself who’s drunk the kool-aid keep pretending they’re going to do.

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            He was president and the Dems had congressional majorities for some of the time. If they really wanted to significantly overhaul the tax code, they could have.

            They want to PRETEND that they’re on the side of the people against the billionaires to fool the gullible into thinking that they’re the good guys rather than the least bad ones, but they know who pays them and it ain’t you…

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              The senate was a 50:50 deadlock unable to pass anything without Republicans agreeing or they faced filibuster, and even then they needed all 48/47 DNC and independents to vote in unison if none of the Republicans crossed the isle, then utilize VP tiebreaker.

              The house was a DNC majority for only his first two years.

              And as I explained to you multiple times, the tax plan did not expire under Biden’s presidency.

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        10 days ago

        He did try many times to get rid of student loans, only for Trump’s judicial picks to say it’s illegal to forgive loans of poor people

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          Fun fact: if he hadn’t deliberately means tested student loan forgiveness to death, the GOP lawyers wouldn’t have been able to argue discrimination and he knew that.

          He wanted the credit for trying, but his owner donors didn’t want his “attempt” to actually succeed.

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              Except for all the times that it doesn’t. This is one of those times.

              People who are rich enough to not need student loan forgiveness don’t have student loans in the first place. Either they come from a rich family that paid for their college or they did so themselves after becoming rich.

              With that in mind, means testing student loan forgiveness to death was a hell of a lot of downside including the argument that the fascists used to kill it, in exchange for absolutely no upside.

              Regardless of his personal beliefs, half a century worth of experience should be WAY more than necessary to find out how things work regardless of how you think they SHOULD work.

              Tl;Dr: he either knew that means testing would doom it to failure and did it anyway, means tested it BECAUSE he knew it would cause it to fail, or he was WAY too incompetent and naive for someone who’d been in the game for longer than most people have been ALIVE.

              Either way, he fucked it up.

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                Except for all the times that it doesn’t. This is one of those times.

                Whether it actually works has nothing to do with whether he believes it works.

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    9 days ago

    Thanks for the comments to read through. I can now confidently say that America is a failed experiment based on these conversations alone.

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    Pretty fucking rich to warn everyone of the tech industial complex that he himself had a direct hand in creating with the Patriot Act. This kickstarted the idea of the US three leters creating PRISM and basically created an impermeable blanket of protection for big tech to spy on Americans and then turn around and sell that data back to the goverment.

    https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-september-11-patriot-act/

    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      And spent the past 4 weeks doing fuck all to stop it. Whatever, I guess this is just the ultimately neoliberal they go low, we go high moment.

      “Trump is a Nazi and he will end the world if you dont vote Democrat.” > “Alright, I’m gonna hand the reigns over to the nazi who’s going to end the world. It’s the principled thing to do.”

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        If he refused to hand over the White House that would make him a dictator himself. Like it or not Americans voted for Trump. Even the ones that didn’t vote for whatever dumb reason.

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          Sure, and Weimar Germany voted for Hitler. Tell me, what exactly is the point of democracy if someone can legally be elected to end democracy? What exactly is the point, if you can just vote someone in who will end democracy? I would argue that one non-democratic act is literally and absolutely superior in every way to literally ending democracy.

          But what the fuck do i know I’m just a trans woman sitting here absolutely horrified that several of my trans friends who live in the southern states could be arrested in a week or two for existing. That trans youth across the country are going to be forced to detransition. A whole generation of dead kids because a dictator takes over the country and to appease his rabid voter base puts their rights on the chopping block.

          It was all a fucking lie. WW2 wasn’t the last time. The holocaust wasn’t the last time. No one learned a single fucking lesson. All the liberals who say “If I was in Germany I’d never have supported the nazis” are absolutely categorically full of shit. It never mattered. They could start rounding people up in the street and peoples primary response would be either annoyance at the blood on their shoes or passive distant pity. And I’m so fucking done with it honestly. Democracy is an empty word. It means nothing. If you live in America you have never once lived in a democratic society, not even if you’re a boomer. It’s just now the dictators are no longer even pretending that the system has any other purpose than mass violence and exploitation. They don’t have to pretend. They’ve convinced half the world those things are good.

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              Are you under some pretense that I myself can stem the tide of transphobic violence? Are you suggesting it is personally my responsibility to end fascism, even as millions of people stand by doing nothing while the lives of an entire community are threatened?

              How dare you use the words “mad” or “afraid” to describe the feeling of living under the impending threat of state violence.

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          Like it or not Americans voted for Trump.

          Yep fucktard fuck around stage complete! Now comes at least 4 years of finding out.

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      To be fair the entire last 4 years has been past his naptime at every moment of every day, so he had to delegate everything to whatever randos he could find.

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        10 days ago

        Especially if your shift ends and you should have been retired nearly 20 years ago.

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        Except that firefighters dont usually let the fire grow and spread while sitting on their hands and then hand it off at the end of the day with a shrug.

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          Well, in this example the fire was already raging when Joe’s shift began and he prioritized protecting the neighborhood bank and insurance office before any of the houses. At the end of his shift he makes a statement to watch out for the people who work in those places while the inferno levels the rest of the neighborhood.

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          But cops will absolutely make everything worse for others. We can cherrypick jobs as examples.

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        The genocide wasnt somebody elses problem. Nor was the election that he bungled and sabotaged.

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    I see only hate for Joe, but you’ll miss him. You have 4 looong years ahead of you to think about that… Or more.

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        Indeed.

        Everytime we get a “should’ve voted ‘us’ to stop ‘them’” take the source is a dumb simpleton tribalist no matter what American Party the ‘us’ and ‘them’ is referring to - same stupid, simple, tribe-wedded parrotinbg, different tribe loyalty.

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      Biden is part of the fucking oligarchy. Voting for him would not have a changed a damn thing about the oligarchy.

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    Should retire, right now, so Kamila is president for a few days. Just so technically she’s a president. Just to annoy trump

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    Yeah, thanks for not doing anything about it and instead just coast for the last 2 fucking months. Super helpful.

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      This warning would not have happened if Harris had won but the oligarchy would still exist. Bit too late to notice it now.

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      Crazy he is laundering billions of dollars for military contractors by funneling them into a genocide

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    Man worth 10 million dollars warns of rule by the rich.

    I guess he would know.

    (With all due acknowledgement that 10 million is chump change for the likes of Elan and Musky)

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        For real, a couple of nice vehicles, a couple of properties, a business of 30-50 employees, and maybe a small team of domestic employees cleaners, sitters, contractors, security… thats what 10mil buys you. and im stretching it.

        basically described my boss, minus the cleaners , sitters and security guards thing. (and his business is a modest sized car dealership…)

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        Hence “with all due acknowledgement” because I understand that 10 mil is nothing, comparatively.

        But I also understand that, to the Amazon warehouse worker with a net worth of a few thousand, or the disabled person who isn’t allowed to have a net worth greater than 2 thousand, 10 mil is a a fuck ton of money. You know, comparatively.

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          Y’all mfs are in the thousands? I can’t save more than 500 bucks without the universe creating that exact amount in a surprise expense as soon as I’ve saved it.

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            Yeah, hypothetically anyway. I technically count as being “in the thousands” because I own my home and car but I have no savings, no retirement, and have only 3 digits in my bank account which will go down to 2 digits soon enough.

            That’s the tricky thing about “net worth.” It can be a very descriptive way of measuring things.

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            Same! I have been able to save money exactly three times in my life, and every time I got to those points, either my car needed repairs for something or new tires, an animal gets sick and needs my immediate attention, or even my own health is at risk.

            The universe has never treated me very kindly, although it does throw me some crumbs every once in awhile.

            Just wanted to let you know you are not alone!

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        Remember when he helped make sure student loan debt couldn’t be erased during bankruptcy?

        Good times Joe. /s

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Remember when Joe Biden pushed for crime bills to systemically arrest BIPOC so prisons never ran out of labor and “tough on crime” looks good to the media?

          Classic Uncle Joe!