• EinatYahav@lemmy.today
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    I disagree with the use of “Florida Student” when “Florida Man” would have been a better title

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    If you travel in the same plane all the time, and you own that plane, people will be able to track you. Why not just get a good contract with a private jet company so you can fly anonymously? Even if she wins this case, she will still be trackable until she takes advantage of any of the options she has at her disposal.

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      Heck she could spend a tiny amount of her dragon hoard sized wealth to offset the environmental impact of her air travel. For example by buying endangered rain forest land and donating it to a public charity. But no, she rather uses her wealth as a legal club to try to silence people pointing out the harm she does to the planet.

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        To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

        No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable ‘solution’ to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

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          To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

          Some sure would. But with good PR she could definitely come up on top of it. Certainly better than she fares now. And if someone could pull it off, then it’s her.

          No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable ‘solution’ to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

          That would be the “rich way” to avoid such a problem yeah. But it certainly wouldn’t make her a better person.

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      Or buy two more private jets and always have two fly randomly across the country while noone knows which one you’re using

      Checkmate

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    I’m thinking since the super bowl drama she’s probably getting more death threats than usual, and this is a reaction to that. It’s not going to work. You cant sue someone for publishing publicly available information.

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    If you are for Musk being tracked, you should be fine with her being tracked the same way.

    I’m for anyone in a private jet being tracked.

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        Every civilian aircraft is required by air traffic regulations to broadcast it’s flight path and identifier.

        So once a plane registration is publicly known to be owned by someone they can of course be tracked. Of course it doesn’t mean that the owner is on the plane, but it certainly let’s you gather how much they fly around. Turns out that Taylor’s jet is used a lot even for private jets, which obviously doesn’t make her look good from an environmental point of view. Now she tries to use her wealth to silence people tracking this and pointing it out to the public. Shame on her!

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      If you think her fans will care, you are very wrong. I’m sure the vast majority of her fans want that Florida student to stop “harassing” and “stalking” her.

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        Same with Elon Musk’s fans, but he’s definitely gone downhill among non-fans. Not just from that, but it was one piece of the puzzle.

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    Didn’t the richest person in the world try to do this exact same thing? I’m still convinced it’s the reason he bought Twitter. Those flight logs are public information because they prevent mid air collisions, your not going to change that.

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      Musk is an idiot but that’s not why he bought Twitter, especially when he balked at the idea of paying $10k instead of his offered $5k to do the same thing.

      No, Musk bought twitter for a much, much more stupid reason.

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      Those flight logs are public information because they prevent mid air collisions, your not going to change that.

      One way to prevent being personally identified is to not fly around in your own personal jet and use one of the many other available options that aren’t trackable this way.

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        Several points:

        • Lots of information is public, such as your address. That doesn’t mean somebody explicitly publishing your address for the purpose of harassing you isn’t committing an offence.

        • Some celebrities can’t fly on passenger planes for their own safety and even that of others or the proper functioning of infrastructure. Can you imagine Taylor Swift trying to fly on a public carrier? She would get mobbed at the very least. At worst she might be putting her health or even her life in danger. Especially now that the MAGA morons are attacking her.

        I find Taylor Swift bland as beige, I don’t get the appeal at all, and I think Musk is a rabid twatwaffle. I also don’t believe anyone should really get to be so wealthy. Still, there are good reasons why one might need to travel by private means without their movements being broadcast.

        • Why wouldnt celebrities be able to fly on passenger planes?

          If there was some security risk to consider, it would still be cheaper by a factor of 100 or more to just buy a business class ticket and buy some tickets for the security guards too. I am sure, there is also options to organize not going through the public check-in of the airport and to be able to board the plane discreetly before the normal boarding.

          Also it is very easy to defend someone on a public plane. the aisles don’t allow for more than one attacker at once, and i am sure there is enough tall muscular men for hire to block all aisles.

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          Some celebrities can’t fly on passenger planes

          Note that isn’t the only option. They can charter private planes. Still not publicly trackable as it isn’t public knowledge that a given tail number equals that celebrity.

          Still, if it’s about environment, abstracting the flight to an odometer would suffice without stalkery implications. However I presume it’s not hard to get the tail number for a rando, and then they don’t need any help tracking her in particular, public flight tracking resources would do it. So while she might be able to fight a targeted tracker, probably the worst she has to fear would still be able to track her.

          If I were anywhere vaguely in those shoes, I’d always use chartered private planes, limo services, etc. I would not move about in easily recognized and tracked personally owned transportation.

        • Bland as beige; as entertaining as watching paint dry; as creative as rocks. All subjectively true, but if per rabid base of zombie fans come through and sink Trump’s election, I will buy one of her CDs and display it, and pretend to have listened to the whole thing.

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    Looking forward to her new, highly-relatable single, “Why you gotta track my jet?”

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    Looks like someone doesn’t know how transponders work.

    Understandable I guess, but you’d think someone working for her would’ve been like, “Yeah, no, that’s not really how aviation works” before it got to the point where a legal threat was made.

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      They know how it works, but they also know the average person won’t go against a billionaire and the army of lawyers they can afford. It’s a scare tactic.

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        Yeah, that seems pretty probable, especially for someone with such a manicured public persona. Still though, they don’t really have a legal leg to stand on no matter how many lawyers they throw at it.

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    Couldn’t he dodge this by publishing the data on a delay? Say, new flight info only shows up on the website 72 hours after it happened?

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      It’s just publicly-available flight data. Anyone can get this information, there’s nothing hidden or secret here.

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    Especially now with newspapers reporting that Taylor Swift is seen as a ‘danger to Republican norms’ (per USA TODAY copy, Feb 2 - 4), this is an especially dangerous position to put her in. Republicans are starting to claim she is swaying the country away from their “values” (whatever those might be) and they are looking at her as an enemy of our country.

    So the person doing this might have innocent motives, but it could lead to horribly disastrous results, and he could also be jailed for doing this. So I’m glad she’s taking some legal action up front if only to protect herself and show that she is unwilling to be made a victim of other people’s nutjob bigotry.

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      We may have reached peak Taylor now that she is making a show of dating that football player. She intrigued me for a while but now I mostly cringe.

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        Yeah I don’t really know anything about her except her music isn’t really my thing. I recently gave it another shot but every song felt kinda ragey and judgey in an unexpected way. It falls in this “quite literal but somehow unclear and never abstract” style of songwriting that to me is… yeah, cringey.

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          Her music never did much for me but that’s fine, that’s just me. But I heard she was supposed to be a good lyricist. It seemed to me she had some sharp lines here and there, with filler in between. I was more interested in her persona and how she hit back against the record labels and movie studios. She did a good job of that.

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            Yeah. Re-recording her album after the record label fucked her over was a genius and commendable move

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      he could also be jailed for doing this

      My fucking ass lmao. It’s public information being posted on a public forum with no call to action whatsoever.

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        WRONG, asshole - it is NOT the public right to put someone in danger, and it never will be. And they’ve just posted on the national news that this person IS likely going to jail, so you’re wrong about that also. DUMBASS!!!

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          Dude made, essentially, a data visualization tool.

          No more and no less.

          If you want the data to be private, go after that. Stand up in front of us all, and argue “private jets deserve the privacy of any one of us”

          Taylor Swift is a public figure that lives like royalty. At the level, I don’t think she gets to live normally. This isn’t even her - this is her publicist and/or lawyers, maybe responding to discomfort she’s personally expressed… I doubt she goes anywhere without bodyguards. I doubt she’s in real danger comparable to even most US politicians - the beetles were small time by her standards. She’s a corporation - she’s just the face of something enormous

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          Dude made, essentially, a data visualization tool.

          No more and no less.

          If you want the data to be private, go after that. Stand up in front of us all, and argue “private jets deserve the privacy of any one of us”

          Taylor Swift is a public figure that lives like royalty. At the level, I don’t think she gets to live normally. This isn’t even her - this is her publicist and/or lawyers, maybe responding to discomfort she’s personally expressed… I doubt she goes anywhere without bodyguards. I doubt she’s in real danger comparable to even most US politicians - the beetles were small time by her standards. She’s a corporation - she’s just the face of something enormous

        • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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          It seems your anger is at about 8/10 but I won’t accept that you’re right until you dial it out 10. Can you crank up your impotent, ignorant rage a bit more and then comment? You can do it, I believe in you.