Can we get rid of twitter already?
If only they wanted to do it as bad as they want to pass chat control. The western organizations are such a fucking joke.
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Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for a social network to be shutdown, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
Meta is a super invasive data harvesting tool that creates shadow profiles for non users, which is now being used to bolster authoritatarianism. If you fail to grasp thar you are either dense or malicious.
We aren’t discussing Meta at all.
freedom of speech and information
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Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
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The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.
https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information
Anyway, go find your braincells.
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Please, do it.
Just do it. Stop yapping, start doing. The hemming and hawing and trying to be proper about this shit is infuriating. They don’t play by the rules so, fuck it - pull a Brazil and yank the rug out. It worked.
The government is allowed to mess with cokes recipe because we don’t want it to be too bad for people’s health. I don’t see why we shouldn’t mess with algorithms to protect our personal and national health
We do, but it’s a lot more difficult to enforce. We can’t just grab a tweet, open the bottle and check how much sugar is in there
Hmmm, maybe if that bottle of sugar is undermining democracy it shouldn’t be allowed. A democracy needs to protect itself from itself
Democracy needs to protect free speech. Part of that is keeping the information “playground” equal and fair. Fighting disinformation and protecting access to the press is important for that.
A well informed population is vital to prevent the masses from being dragged along by some rich guy just buying a common social media platform
100%, that’s always been the case since the printing press was invented, but at some point you need to know that hate speech isn’t free spend
“free spend” is that a typo or a term I do not know?
That’s free speech in USian, thanks to Citizens United.
Definitely a typo, my bad
Do it now
Lets use their playbook: The only way to protect the electoion in less than 2 months, is to block Twitter and Facebook in germany completely.
Let them go to the courts, I’m sure we can find a lawyer or 2 skilled enough to draw out the process for 6-8 weeks. After that, whatever, unblock them, pay some “sorry we were wrong” money.
Then we have 4 years to solve the problem in a more permanent way.
That’s what you get for election interference.
Democracies have to start making laws that stop assholes like Musk from interfering in their domestic politics - including and up to imposing heavy fines, service shutdown and personal criminal liability. If a person is not a national and domiciled in that country they should have no right to influence that election through campaign contributions or any other assistance.
Musk and russia. Russia has been a far greater problem and is also behind many stupid musk takes.
Better shut off the complete platform. And issue an international arrest warrant for foreign poitical influence.
Elons x needs to die
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Let me paraphrase a Hungarian saying in English, related to doing the bare minimum:
Thank you for going to the toilet and not taking a shit right where you were!
Can you tell me the ungarian one, my girl friend wants to know.
just grow a pair and ban twitter, spacex, starlink, and tesla from operating in europe already.
there’s no good reason to let them operate.
this could create e-waste if managed improperly
ok so people who already have teslas should be fucked? if they will be forced to stop operation, some service offerings will not be available. nice
a car isnt a political statement for everybody, for some people its a fucking tool
As you said, they are services. They are not required.
edit: modifying software of cars in general is highly regulated. so banning tesla would create issues for people having those cars, i would love to “homebrew” them but hey, thats fucking illegal
How is it even related to services?
repair, checkup and support services maby? all the stuff a car needs in its lifetime? or did i get something wrong?
Dunno. Sounds like something anti-monopoly body should have banned anyway.
jup… should have….
Tesla is getting a buttload of cash from the EU soon in climate compensation (also Volvo but not so much).
don’t ban starlink pls
Why not? Asking genuinely.
Ukraine and other countries where fixed infrastructure is failing iirc benefit from having low cost Internet access.
Have you never been to small and poor countries like Germany where this sometimes is the best option for getting internet access?
Whaaat?
Starlink, in some places in Germany is the only usable option. We have shitty infrastructure.
I think it was the statement that Germany is a “small and poor country” that they were whaaaating about.
They used that as sarcasm to infer that Germany has no excuse for having shit infrastructure due to their wealth and economy size, unlike other countries.
Mate tf are you on about? Small and poor like Germany?
Sarcasm.
In the context of Internet connectivity it might as well be (and I think that’s what the joke was about). Fiber build-out is atrocious and large areas are stuck on 16mbps speeds. Coincidentally cell coverage also sucks in these areas so starlink is the only way to get Internet with decent speed.
That’s not “small and poor”.
Edit: Oh, it was a German “joke”. Now I understand. :)
Although I’m REALLY skeptical that for more than maybe 1% of the population that Starlink is the best option.
German humor :)
maybe 1% of the population […]
That would be more than 800k people, although the number of affected people does not make a difference. You don’t even think about taking communication away from anyone without there being a replacement for them. And in the scope of Germany, this means that we’ll need starlink access for the next decade or so.
They’re mostly all national security threats, especially with Elon and Putin having a special relationship.
I mean AfD is also pro-russia AND have neo-nazi’s in its ranks.
They are at 20% in polls just before the german election.
I don’t think many people have as many issues as they should have with russia or they just don’t care.
