Summary
Matthew Livelsberger, the suspect behind the Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, was described as a “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret with 19 years of military service.
Livelsberger, who died in the blast, rented the Cybertruck in Colorado and filled it with explosives, injuring seven.
Authorities are investigating the incident’s symbolism, speculating it may have been a political statement due to its location and links to Trump and Elon Musk.
No clear motive has been established.
What are the odds it was an accident? It doesn’t seem like there was any real purpose to it …
The odds are pretty much nonexistent. You don’t accidentally load up an electric vehicle with a bunch of gasoline and fireworks, park it in front of a building with the incoming president’s name, rig the flammable material to ignite, and finally shoot yourself before it ignites. Supposedly his wife just broke up with him after Christmas, so perhaps he was feeling extra hopeless and wanted to do something extreme to get everyone’s attention.
I hadn’t seen the bit about the gunshot wound yet. Yeah, it likely wasn’t an accident.
I was thinking maybe he was planning some fireworks event and some camping and accidentally set something off.
Called it.
Livelsberger, who died in the blast,
Actually, it’s a bit more interesting. According to an article that the BBC published, he shot himself in the head while in the car. From his viewpoint, it seems that the blast was just a fancy after-effect.
“Mr Livelsberger’s cause of death was suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to the Clark County Coroner’s office.”
Such a big fan he decided to give one of his hotels an impromptu fireworks display?
And the Tesla truck can’t be a coincidence.
Definitely not, since it was a rental.
Symbolism? There’s no well thought out and clear symbol. It’s just an asshole who thinks going up in flames “sends a message (jokerMewing.jpg)”. A well thought out symbol is more like Luigi Mangione’s Deny Defend Depose.
This guy was promised a good life for the simple man by the republicans and he was repeatedly backstabbed, and that made him angry. Yet he stayed with them till the end at which point he couldn’t imagine himself not being the MAGA Rambo wannabe he thought himself to be. That’s what angry and dumb people do.
Was probably mad that Musk turned out to be the actual president and not Trump.
More proof that magas are just violent psychopaths. Open more insane asylums!
He wasn’t so big, I’m bigger than him
Yeehad.
You’d think a green beret would be better at blowing shit up
Did he not succeed? Seemed to blow up pretty good.
What did they blow up? Their own vehicle and a piece of the road? Some random bystanders? A few thousands of damage to the hotel maybe? I don’t know their goals, but I don’t think that’s successful if they wanted anything more than attention seeking. (edit: which honestly seems like it could be the goal, why else have fireworks instead of fertilizer?)
Compare with the Oklahoma City bombing.
Wasn’t flexible enough
Turns out if you want to use a cybertruck as an explosive weapon you need to put it on its side due to the way the walls of the vehicle contain the explosion.
Classic cybertruck-as-weapon noob mistake.
“This side toward enemy”. Built so strong it directs the blast out the open face of the bed.
I’m spitballing here, but it was just a bunch of fireworks used as the actual bomb, correct?
I’m sure if they did the fertilizer/ OKC thing that it would have blown up a lot better instead of just catching on fire, but the stupid thing also probably doesn’t have good enough cargo capacity to carry enough accelerant
He was likely making a statement and wanted fire and noise more than demolition and death (granted he also probably didn’t care if some people around it got hurt). It’s pathetic.
Probably, otherwise, why not drive it through the doors into the lobby?
I think it went exactly according to his plan.
‘big’ Trump supporter
I mean… let’s be honest here, he did drive 12 hours through the night to serve Trump some freshly barbecued pig.
You don’t cater like that unless you’re a truly big fan.
I mean you can’t help but think it is something to do with Elon Musk and the h1b1 Visa issue.
A veteran that supported him thinking he was “for the troops” getting fucked over by the military for something (like the VA not treating PTSD) could be a reason.
Yup, could be a veterans thing. Both these terrorists served at Fort Bragg.
All of the shooters and this guy have been trump fans. That’s the thing about patriotism. If you use it as rhetoric but attack the foundation, the rah rah patriots tend to want to blow your head off.
Gonna be a interesting 4 years
Normal isn’t returning after Trump’s next four years just like it didn’t return in the last four years.
We’re already in a new political reality in America. We might as well acknowledge that and start to engage with it.
Shit is going to get weird. Talk to your neighbors, see if you can find community support groups, that sort of thing will carry you through a lot more than just about anything else.
Also if you have the spare time and income, take a stop the bleed style class.
Man, ex- trump fans really really want trump dead
Wonder why…
Or some of his supporters are impressionable
I wonder if it has anything to do with all the calls for violence against Trump.
Remember when people burned effigies of Obama when he got elected? Pastors around the country hung dark colored dummies with nooses? Do you remember that?
Nah you don’t otherwise you wouldn’t have made up evidence to try and support your claim.
Where have you seen calls for violence against trump. People don’t like him but I haven’t seen anything. Do you have any articles or proof?
@intensely_human@lemm.ee just made a call. Its how I heard it.
If you watch far more right-winger media and insulate yourself from reality, you will see it everywhere.
By who, lol?
I saw it on tv! They’re putting fireworks in the dogs! What about the geese?
Joe Biden for one. Here’s Biden backpedaling from the comment on MSNBC.
The original video of Biden actually saying it has, of course, been scrubbed from the internet or I would post that.
(For context, at the time of his comments Biden was the most powerful human alive)
The guy who did this did not like Biden, only a legitimately insane person would think this trump supporter was acting on biden’s wishes.
Sooooo won’t be investigated as terrorism got it… Sigh this country is so corrupt it’s not funny
