Over 7,000 students in Georgia with unpaid lunch balances are getting a helping hand following a $1 million initiative from the Arby’s Foundation, the nonprofit announced Thursday.
i thought American kids got free school lunches?
There is a federal lunch subsidy program, and many states also have their own lunch programs. The program even extends through the summer.
Several caveats.
First, not every state participates. This is free money that states could use to feed hungry kids, and some states are just like “nah, fuck them kids.”
Second, parents generally have to apply for the program. You fill out some forms, and the kids get subsidized lunches. That’s a problem, because not every parent knows the programs exist, not every parent speaks English or Spanish or another language the school might be thoughtful enough to have the forms translated into. At my kids’ elementary school, during Covid, we learned that there are 32 different first languages spoken in the homes of students. Sharing information is a problem.
Third, the subsidized lunch is often a lesser meal than what the paying kids get. It might be a cheese and white bread sandwich, an apple sauce, and some milk. Now, sure, if you’re hungry, food is better than no food. But kids know what the brown bag lunch means. It’s embarrassing, creates division across income levels, and can encourage some hungry kids to choose not to accept the food rather than face ridicule.
But you know what’s amazing? During Covid, school meal providers were facing financial ruin. They had contracts to provide food for a bunch of kids that weren’t in the schools. Sysco and Aramark and many others were staring at a total loss for all of their school lunch programs, and the government bailed them out. The state and federal governments found a way to pay for all the school lunches and give them away for free to all students in every state. There wasn’t even a debate, and no politicians opposed it.
The money was just there, no strings or hoops or pork barrel haggling. Major industry is facing crisis, and suddenly we can afford to feed all the kids, no exceptions, no forms or paperwork. Local food banks were overflowing with frozen meals and fresh produce and all the tiny cartons of milk you can imagine.
Now, you could say that Covid was an emergency, that the collapse of the school lunch industry would have horrible economic ramifications, and that would be true.
But it wasn’t even expensive, and that was for everybody. There’s no reason we could not afford to provide free lunches to any child in America who asks for it, and I mean a real lunch. The same thing the kid who paid is getting. School cafeterias throw away more food than the value of food given away as part of free lunch programs AND unpaid lunch debts combined. Feeding every child would be a rounding error, and nobody would be stigmatized or penalized because their parents couldn’t afford their lunch.
Hungry kids don’t learn. Feed them all.
and the government bailed them out.
So fucking tired of this.
Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.
This is bullshit.
Thank you so much - this was excellently stated and I couldn’t agree with you more.
First, not every state participates. This is free money that states could use to feed hungry kids, and some states are just like “nah, fuck them kids.”
Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Vermont and Wyoming.
The program requires states to pay half of the administrative costs - not the benefit itself, just the costs associated with distributing the benefit.
The federal free lunch program would have brought $18,000,000 to the state, at a total cost of $300,000 to the state. The governor refused the program, saying “I don’t believe in welfare.”
Nebraska receives $1,100,000,000 per year in agricultural subsidies. He doesn’t have a problem taking federal dollars to feed pigs, but kids are on their own.
He doesn’t have a problem taking federal dollars to feed pigs,
Hey, just because they are Nebraska politicians, doesn’t mean they deserve to starve. :P
wow that’s super fucked up
Only in a few states, like Minnesota.
Lol
Whoa now buddy. Can’t have that socialism in muh murica. How else will these poor for profit institutions keep posting record profits?
*edit In some places maybe… but that and may other services have been gutted. sadly.
wow this is sad.
What a world we live in, where charities have to step in to stop children going into debt over school lunches…
You’d think that one of the wealthiest governments in the world would have a better solution to this problem by now than relying on charity
It’s a clash of two worldviews. The purest form of capitalism believes that the individual is selfish and thinks only of himself. Therefore, it’s up to the individual to succeed no matter what, relying only on himself.
On the other hand, we have the Scandinavian system, where the individual is not inherently selfish, but selfless, it’s all about reciprocity, helping each other.
To me, the purest form of capitalism is pure evil. It sees the world as half empty instead of half full.
Lunch debt should not be a thing.
I highly disagree, because the purest form of capitalism expects there to be rules and safeguards against exactly that. I may be biased, because to me Rhine Capitalism is the purest form, as the markets itself are completely free to define prices and have open and fair competitions, leading to egalitarian distribution of goods.
However, as society grows more selfish, sadly it doesn’t work anymore. Like democracy and various other forms or organisation.
Um, bullshit. Pure capitalism is entirely unregulated. Regulation, fair trade, prohibitions against monopolies and anticompetitive practices, labor rights, those are all socialist additions.
The US does regulate the hell out of unions though. Right to Work is a regulation twisting the free market. So is the prohibition on solidarity strikes.
Yes indeed. Thank you, socialism.
Maybe in the U.S., everyone else around the world, doesn’t consider these to be “socialist” additions.
Lunch debt shouldn’t be a thing. I don’t mind paying a little more on my school taxes so that every child at school eats for free.
I hate seeing these articles as if those people should be thankful for the kindness of some random person instead of being angry that school lunch debt is something that actually exists.
I can do both. But I understand the point of view.
I fucking hate massive corporations laundering their reputations like this. If they cared, they’d lobby for higher taxes on the rich to pay for free school meals and a bazillion other things that govt should provide but doesn’t.
This is also important to remember too, hopefully enough people realize it’s an attempt at a pr boost.
Exactly. Not to mention that there are states that had minor increases on the wealthiest of the state and made school lunches free. This country is abysmal.
Why can’t both be happening. Don’t assume that they aren’t aware and bothered by the school systems way of doing things.
Jfc
Food is a human right…
Lunch… Debts? This is arguably even worse than financing a pizza. Please tell me there’s no interest rate
No interest. It’s dystopian enough as-is.
They just get a piece of hydrogenated oil between two slices of white bread or nothing, until it’s paid. Don’t give them ideas.
1 million initiative from the Arby’s Foundation
This with their slogan “we’ve got the meats” and there is a good cannibalism joke somewhere in there.
Yes, charity is great. Fixing society level problems with society level solutions is better. We need to get salaries higher and limit the cost of living increases. For food the best way is to stop paying farmers to under produce and instead work on getting the price to move food down. Let the price for food rush to the bottom and at the same time increase the salaries of everyone on the bottom.
Yeah, I was thinking for what arby’s pays lobbyists to avoid taxes and wage increases, they could lobby once more for higher wages, higher taxes on wealthy and corporations, lower retail cost, and more government dollars for free, comprehensive, quality food, education and healthcare and just fix the problem. The C employees and board wouldn’t even have to do without another yacht to do it, just budget better.
Sad that this is even a thing. The richest nation on earth should be able to give its future 2 square meals a day.
School lunch debt is the so incredibly dystopian that I hope 20-30 years from now people will have to use an internet search to find out what it meant to people in this decade. Like it’s so unabashedly wrong as a thing, I hope we look at like when Bayer made heroin and bloodletting was in practice.
But that would set them up with unreasonable expectations for adulthood! Gotta prepare them for their future of struggling to get by.
Jesus Christ. Students now have debts before they even leave high school? Cool.
No, parents.
Pretty soon it will be the norm that when you graduate high school you take your first bankruptcy and clean your slate before your life really starts to matter. Hell it’s only 7 years, you got 4 years of college so only 3 more till you can start living again! Well I guess after you somehow pay off those new college loans as well.
Some before they leave elementary
Just like in Christianity we are all born with sin, in America we are all born with debt.
in capitalism, by the time you were put into this world, you already have a fuck ton of debt
Unfortunately true.
children having lunch debt isnt a thing that should exist in a 1st world country.
and it shouldnt be reliant upon kind and generous donations for them to be fed.
for fucks sake, I’m tired of these stories made to look as feel good stories when they are nothing but documentation of the decline of our civilization.
“Oh, yes, children. You can’t eat today because you are poor, lest some generous noble allows it with a meager donation of a fraction of their wealth”
Just think how many people could be fed with that waste of space Elon’s billions.
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I had to look at the community to make sure it wasn’t OrphanCrushingMachine
Came in here just to find this comment, knowing it would be here, and upvote. Can’t help but think the few down votes are just people that don’t understand the reference. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/orphan-crushing-machine
Thank you for this context - I needed it. I sometimes wonder if I should upvote, downvote, or ignore Orphan-Crushing Machine articles.
Beat me to it by 19 minutes
Malnutrition leads to all kinds of cognitive problems or developmental issues, which just increases the burden on society later from medical or social issues developed by such people. Lunch debt is a shitty, gross concept and I hate living in a world where it exists.