• db2@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Greetings and salutations fellow children, I have come to impart a message from myself, your peer.

    (Except that has too many syllables for the real Elon)

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      19 days ago

      Eh I think it does us a disservice to call the rich idiots. Sure some are, but strips agency from them for the real damage they do.

      Elon is at least smart enough to turn his emerald slave money into billions.

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        19 days ago

        That’s not a sign of intelligence, it’s just that he had so much money, he could afford to fail a bunch of times, so he could get lucky every once in a while

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          19 days ago

          And this pattern holds across a shitload of rich people too. Singers who could afford to not have to have that waitress job and just focus on promotion. ‘Entrepreneurs’ who got ‘small’ ‘loans’ to start their 10th business that finally hit. Real estate moguls who had actual intelegnt people bring them plans they rubber stamped and claimed to be brilliant businessmen.

          They are rich so they must be smart is the biggest pile of bullshit.

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        19 days ago

        They’re dumb, not handicapped. An idiot is still culpable for the damage they do. We’re all just lucky they aren’t smart enough to effect their malice.

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      19 days ago

      Before unions were a thing, if a workforce wanted a raise, it was traditional to say “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”

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        19 days ago

        Molotov cocktails remain a cheap and effective workforce bargaining tool. 2nd amendment silenced handguns just got added to that tool belt.

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        19 days ago

        And now that they’ve made unions all but illegal, we’ll eventually return to that trusted tradition.

        Either we settle things collectively and politely, or we settle things not so politely.

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          19 days ago

          This was the whole purpose of our founding fathers.

          Kings were getting beheaded. They knew enough that if they didn’t want to watch their backs constantly, they needed to spread power thin.

          It’s the point of good faith in government. It goes back to the Code of Hammurabi. We have these laws so that we can all mostly agree on how things should be handled in a reasonable way.

          When people can’t rely on laws and justice, eventually blood spills.

          These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.

          • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world
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            19 days ago

            When people can’t rely on laws and justice, eventually blood spills.

            Agreed. It’s pretty much just a question of how long “eventually” is.

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            I thought the purpose of the US founding fathers was to gain power to prevent the British government from having a say in abolishing slavery. Also so they could ignore the treaty the British made with the Indigenous peoples living to the west of the 13 colonies. They wanted that land and didn’t like those assholes in London preventing westward expansion via genocide.

            These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.

            You might be surprised about how consistent they are with the “Founding Fathers” by saying some nice words about “freedom” while their actions say the opposite. The American Revolution didn’t fundamentally alter things (slavery existed before and after the revolution) it only changed who was in power. Pretty words on a paper didn’t give people freedom. It was people voting, unionizing, and oh yeah, a bloody civil war that brought freedom. And then even more voting and unionizing and protesting for over a century.

            The US is a weird place not too dissimilar from the society depicted in 1984, just with Big Brother replaced by Founding Father. Founding Father isn’t watching over you. Founding Father was hypocritical slave-master that would have more in common with the likes of Elon Musk than they would ever have with you.

            Writing nice words about freedom while acquiring wealth from the work of slaves, isn’t that consistent with Elon Musk?

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              Most of the founding fathers wanted to abolish slavery, but they also knew they needed the economic power of the southern states’ cotton trade and that they would be virulently against ending slavery. They kicked that can down the road, but laid the groundwork that eventually led us there for the most part.

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                Most of the founding father fucking owned slaves.

                Elon Musk writes about rights and freedoms. Thomas Jefferson wrote about right and freedoms. Elon Musk is shit to the workers he gets his wealth from. Thomas Jefferson got his wealth from slaves. Elon Musk sexually harasses his female workers. Thomas Jefferson impregnated his slaves.

                Elon Musk and the other billionaires are being 100% consistent with the Founding Fathers you idolize. This is why arguing that these billionaire assholes aren’t “in keeping with the Founding Fathers” is so weak. Deep down we all know that these guys are acting exactly like the Founding Fathers. It really makes sense for so many people to think Trump, Musk and all the other scumbags are like the Founding Fathers because they actually are. They just aren’t like the mythologized Founding Fathers that you believe in. But the Founding Fathers you believe in never existed.

                The actual people were just a group of rich slave masters that wanted to take away more land from indigenous people. They wrote some nice words about rights and freedoms to fool people into being willing to die to serve their interests. Which is exactly what MAGA is all about isn’t it? Rich people talking big about rights and freedoms to get people to support them having more power.

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                  18 days ago

                  You may want to freshen up on your history. Ending slavery was a huge debate right at the beginning. They chose poorly in the end, but not for no reason.

                  Also, there’s a reason the only person you could come up with for your silly comparison was Thomas Jefferson. He was probably one of the most flawed of the founding fathers. Though he’s still a significantly better man than Musk on the whole.

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    18 days ago

    Image of a guy in an SS uniform being happy that a lifeform which was trying to defend it’s home from invasion is afraid.

    I don’t think that image is saying what you think it’s saying.

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      18 days ago

      Its a shiti meme based ona fake xeet…

      You ain’t wrong but depositors bring right you are clearly not getting the point lol

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        18 days ago

        The point is that you’re angry at some people and want them to be afraid of you?

        Yeah I know the point, but it’s not a healthy way to think about things. A bit fashy.

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          18 days ago

          aint nobody afraid of some clown shit posting online… but when millions of us gloat over a dead parasite, they take notice

          cheers and have a merry Christmas!

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    18 days ago

    Doesn’t even care about his own daughter, but one of the Greedy Gang gets murked and suddenly it’s morals time.

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    18 days ago

    Let them hate so long as they fear.

    Attributed to Caligula, but guess what ya rich bastards? It goes both ways, and we outnumber you. By a lot.

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    18 days ago

    Killing people is never right, but some of these rich bastards have dome so much to make themselves a target that I don’t feel bad for them anymore.

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      18 days ago

      Killing people is never right

      What is this nonsense? Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Putin? Khan? There is a never ending list of people that should have been killed sooner.

      Those are just the obvious example. There are many more people that cause suffering and death of millions and they deserve to be removed from society.

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        Do you think killing for example Hitler would’ve changed anything? He just was some random guy who joined an already existing movement (and even without that movement ww2 was inevitable after the peace treaties of Versailles and Saint-Germain). They’d just have picked someone else to lead it

        Do you think killing Putin would change anything? He put complete loyalists everywhere, if he’s gone his political line will continue.

        These are systematical issues, you can’t fix them as long as a large majority of those who have power to change anything (in a democracy thankfully that’s everyone who’s eligible for voting) simply accept it.

        Side note: In the USA’s recent election ~32% voted for the Republicans and ~32% for the Democrats while over a third just didn’t care at all. That’s not how you get something to change in a democracy!

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        18 days ago

        Personally, I handle it like this: Killing people is never right, but it isn’t always the best decision to do “the right” thing. The right thing, morally, would have been, to collectively not create a system that has CEOs and billionaires. Just like, the ideal revolution would only depose and take the power from the ruling classes and would have no need for terror. But it’s usually impossible to follow a completely ideal situation.

        I think the distinction is important, mainly because the enjoyment of revenge for revenge’s sake and violence for violence’s sake is pretty real and can become very dangerous to the success of revolutionary action. So it is good to remind yourself of the ideal situation (no killing), as to curb any excesses if at all possible. It does not mean you cannot go against those ideals - in the end, ideals are trumped by material reality and its necessities.

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        Yeah, my comment was worded poorly. What I meant to say was that I hate the general idea of just killing everyone who stands in the way of societal progress. I don’t want that to become the default option.

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          You are being reasonable and nothing wrong with that. I think everyone understands this.

          With that being said, clearly many people don’t this as murder and society is pretty unified on this.

          The message has been sent by this denial of life and society is amounting a psyop on the ruling class.

          It doesn’t look like they actually took note and are digging in.

          Things will get worse.

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      Sometimes killing is the only way some people can receive their justified consequences.

      Kings had to be reminded of this every once in a while, now the CEOs.

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    maybe not. but it is based to kill a person that used to be a merely CEO but now, due to a lack of empathy and grounding to the real world, has become a cincere threat to humanity. EDIT: JUST TO BE CLEAR: i mean elon