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Yikes. Not a good decision.
Good… We’ll need them for the resistance
I mean… They’ve only been allowed quite recently…
…no? According to SPARTA over 76% of trans people in the military have been there for at least fifteen years
Openly?
Edit: Also I don’t consider 15 years to be “that long” in this context…
No. We have been allowed defacto since 2013 and officially since 2016, but have been in the military the whole time.
And still, we let him live.
A couple of people have tried to go back in time to kill him, but were unsuccessful.
Unsuccessful at killing him or going back in time?
Yes
They will always be unsuccessful in this timeline. Maybe they managed it in others.
How to create government jobs, while also remaining a christofascist overlord. Just like old times, eh?
Maybe we’ll finally see strict gun laws, albeit aimed at disarming the opposing populous.
Ooor, we create a well regulated militia with 15,000 new soldiers!
I’d support the establishment of a Trans Army
I propose the name TransReformers: soldiers in disguise.
An easy to get general discharge from the military? I think lots of people with years left to serve are going to enjoy leaving early with all of their benefits.
I have a feeling most of the benefits will be going out the door behind them shortly thereafter.
I have to hope their contractually obligated to provide them. If not I’d look forward to the class action suite but then again the judges are openly corrupt. America is a clusterf*ck right now.
Laws don’t matter to Orange Julius, I doubt contracts do either.
I hope I’m wrong for a lot of people’s sake tho.
Fun fact, when you join you waive your right to sue the military. Might be able to sue the VA or parts of the government though.
That’s not actually true. It’s just very restricted, the contracts and laws around your service make it very hard. You can’t sue for things that are legal orders and you generally can’t sue specific people. You can absolutely sue the DoD for things like breach of contract. For example if you were processed out of active duty normally, on time and everything, and then were arrested for desertion a month later you would likely have a case against the DoD. It just has to be off the wall stuff like that.
Yeah. He also wants to prevent using military healthcare for transgender care. So even if they could get VA benefits it wouldn’t help where trans people need it most.
Elon and Ramaswamy have already identified the VA as a target for cost cutting.
The VA, often criticized for consistently being over funded and helping disabled veterans live like kings. :/
Oh dude do not get me started. But it is better than what I would have without the VA.
Oh yeah, I’m glad it’s there and able to do what it can with the resources it’s given.
I’m not a veteran but like many I have friends and family who served. It never ceases to amaze me how much support republicans in general and “suckers and losers, what was in it for them” Trump republicans in particular get from the armed forces.
It would upset me, but then I remember that’s how they treat all their followers and the armed forces are just another job for the working class to fill. They practice equal opportunity contempt.
Here we go folks, welcome to the hellscape that is the new America
Honestly, it was a hellscape before, we just shifted down a level deeper.
Ahh, yes. Purging the armed forces. Nothing sinister about that. Just restoring the professional military service.
I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.
Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.
Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?
FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.
100 % doubt this happens… Oh the fear porn.
He did it during his first administration. I was planning on joining the Navy and becoming a doctor at the time.
Why do you think it won’t happen?
He’s enjoyed thirty years of relative peace and serenity in a country that doesn’t usually bomb itself that often.
It’ll happen. Three minutes later, they’ll discover what a bad idea it is to kick people out of the army in the middle of a recruiting shortage. Nothing will be learned and they’ll skip along to the next bad idea.
I mean I support reducing the army. Can we kick out all cis men next?
Only if the base assumption is that they’re all gay, and they only get kicked out if they tell us they’re straight, otherwise we aren’t asking.
You think with the recruiting problems we have you’d do your best to retain the people we have.
If you can get through basic and fulfill your tasks you should be able to be in the military. If the government doesn’t want to pay for “gender affirming care” that’s fine. But these people should still be allowed in the military.
Also, what kind of discharge are these people getting? Honorable, General, Dishonorable?
Elsewhere somebody said Medical, don’t have a source myself.
It said it in this article.
This is the internet, I read headlines and comment sections, not articles! /s
The ideological score here must be worth more to Trump than the strength of America’s military, already hurting for new recruits, which says a lot and frankly scares the fuck out of me
Weakening the USA’s defenses seems to be a consistent theme with Trump.
I think this signals the beginning of a very tough era for trans people more than it does anything about national security. But we shall see
Putin’s puppet.
Elon will supply robot troops for the clone war.
Might supply them for the other side.
Both sides. Like Ford.
Merchant of death
Well, the problem is you’re thinking logically. It’s an ideological victory on both ends for him.
Conservatives view this as strengthening the military, not weakening it.
The actual strength of America’s Military doesn’t matter because they don’t have hostile nations on their borders. So when America’s Military loses some of their force projection ability it can be used to say we’re turning towards isolationist policy, which is also a win for him. (From the Putin angle and from the Conservative one)
And, again, if you point out that this move will weaken the American Military, well what are you? A terrorist who doesn’t believe they have the greatest, manliest fighting force ever seen?
That’s a lot of hard to replace talent. I don’t think anyone I’m the military will let him go through with this. How anyone can support this mong is beyond me.
He’s already working on purging military leadership so only Trump loyalists are left. If he orders a purge of trans people it will happen. Everyone saying “he can’t really do this” is still in living in hopeful dreams. Reality is that Trump will be in charge and surrounded by fanatical loyalists running all branches of government and the military. The dangers for his chosen scapegoats are real.
Not something anyone can stop if he chooses to go through with it. He is the commander of the armed forces. He can make sweeping policies like this that fuck up everything.
Would love to see him personally try to kick even one of them out of anything. Pathetic piece of shit.
