cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/113490058128984245
Muslims who voted for Trump upset by his pro-Israel cabinet picks | Reuters (2024-11-16)
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/] ———
🙊 No comment (is also a comment)“Several Muslim and Arab supporters of Trump said they hoped Richard Grenell, Trump’s former acting director of national intelligence, would play a key role after he led months of outreach to Muslim and Arab American communities, and was even introduced as a potential next secretary of state at events.
“Another key Trump ally, Massad Boulos, the Lebanese father-in-law of Trump’s daughter Tiffany, met repeatedly with Arab American and Muslim leaders.
“Both promised Arab American and Muslim voters that Trump was a candidate for peace who would act swiftly to end the wars in the Middle East and beyond…”
When he said he’d end the conflict faster he meant by accelerating the massacre.
Meanwhile in an alternate timeline where harris is also packing her cabinet with Pro-Israel picks.
“You can’t criticize this because trump would have been worse!”
“Oh sure they are just upset the FIRST BLACK WOMAN PRESIDENT is staffing her cabinet with standard DC insiders, what’s the big deal? Of course they will be pro-israel.”He moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. WTF did you think would happen???
The evangelical community NEEDS!!! Israel to exist because they want Armageddon. — no really.
Yeah. You knew what he was when you picked him up.
I’m just waiting for all the people who abstained from voting against him to appease their conscience to start realizing how much worse things are going to get for Palestine. I really hope I’m wrong, but Trump is already on record about his expectations.
Palestine already faces an Israel with full material support from the US. Dems just feign concern about it and tell you they are going to look into it and hey look a bird! The “worse” would simply be a continuation of the status quo but withouy a veneer of respectability to bring Dem voters on board.
Your position is neither moral nor strategic. Morally, I don’t think anyone should need to be told to not tolerate genocide, let alone normalize it, let alone support those committing it. The moral question is not really up for discussion. Strategically, well, there is nothing strategic about individuals telling each other to tolerate anything and everything, including genocide, and to guarantee your votes with no demands. That’s just being a good pawn for the Democratic Party that, with incentives provided through your consent, would rather lose than reverse course on genocide. You are essentially making yourself a political non-entity.
Please go and actually do something worthwhile to help people and stop letting genocidal ghouls control your political thoughts.
So let me get this straight… Your position is that instead of being a pawn of the Democrats who are at least pushing back against Israel, I should instead be a pawn of the Republicans who have now placed a lunatic in charge that has no objections to wiping out an entire country as long as it gets the conflict out of the news cycle and he can claim he was responsible for ending the conflict? Israel knows if they just cut loose, they would face repercussions from the rest of the world, but if they had the US (Trump) providing full support to such an action then they would have some leverage. What do you think will happen to Palestine as a country if Trump succeeds in removing all the guardrails and gets to fulfill his wet dream of being a dictator?
So let me get this straight… Your position is that instead of being a pawn of the Democrats who are at least pushing back against Israel
That is not what is happening. It is the exact opposite: Democratic politicians presided over and supported this genocide with near-unanimous agreemeny with one another. Israel, again, receives unconditional material and diplomatic support from the Biden-Harris regime.
I think I was clear on this, so you are really juat revealing your own lack of familiarity.
I should instead be a pawn of the Republicans
Am I telling you to use Republicans’ thought-terminating clichés? Am I telling you to vote for Republicans as if they are a lesser evil?
Maybe you should ask me more about what I am saying because you are taking serious liberties.
Israel knows if they just cut loose, they would face repercussions from the rest of the world,
Israel already cut loose. They are ethnically cleansing Gaza, reinvading and bombing parts of the West Bank, invadjng and bombing entire neighborhoods in Lebanon, and trying to pick a fight with Iran. The “rest of the world” is nearly unanimously against Israel on paper, with the process held up by the US and some of its lapdogs, though of course Europe also wants in on the imperialist action.
You are already seeing what the rest of the world can do when Israel cuts loose. It is shamefully little, but we should also take inspiration from those who do stand up. From the Palestinian resistance. From allied grouos in Syria and Iraq. From Iran. From Hezbollah. From Yemen. And from South Africa for doing nearly all of the work re: the ICJ.
The US is the dominant superpower and it supports Israel to the hilt. Work to undermine it so that the scakes can be tipped.
What do you think will happen to Palestine as a country
Palestine is not internationally recognized as a country. Palestine is an invaded and occupied regikn, with its people facing settler colonial genocide by ethnic supremacists.
if Trump succeeds in removing all the guardrails
What guardrails? Again, Isrsel has unconditional material support from the US. They recently murdered an American in thr West Bank and the US is giving is the “investigation pending” slow walk. None of “the rules”, even the unwritten American exceptionalist ones, apply.
and gets to fulfill his wet dream of being a dictator?
lol that’s not going to happen. I will bet you any amount of money.
Genocide and burning people alive isn’t possibly the worst of it is it?
Trump wants the conflict “ended in a week” and Israel obviously isn’t willing to negotiate in good faith. The only alternative is pulling out the stops and just bombing the whole country, and Palestine ceases to exist. That is Trump’s solution to everything he doesn’t like, but fortunately this week it seems like our Senators are finally growing a spine and pushing back against him so we’ll see what happens there.
I mean he wanted to nuke hurricanes ffs.
Trump is itching to use nukes. He tried to nuke a damn hurricane.
Why did no one WARN me he would DO THIS!
Lmao cry me a fuckin river. This is fucking peak leopards-rating-faces territory.
I voted for Jill Stein and that who they should have voted for. I guess some people don’t believe Trump despite how many times he repeats how much of a Zionist and Arab-hater he is.
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To the downvoters, you can add all third party voters to Harris and Trump would have still won. Most people just opted out, turn out was less than 2020, the Democratic candidate was that bad.
“… a candidate for peace who would act swiftly to end the wars in the Middle East and beyond…”
They never bothered to tell them -how- he would be ending those wars. I guess sometimes the peaceful solution is a bloody one. Peaceful as in there’s nobody left to fight back.
Oh no, it’s the extremely predictable consequences of my actions
How the fuck did he go the whole election cycle without knowing even that much? It wasn’t exactly a well hidden detail of Trump’s foreign policy
