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Summary

U.S. Muslim leaders who backed Trump to protest Biden’s support for Israel’s war in Gaza and Lebanon feel betrayed by Trump’s Cabinet picks.

Trump named staunch pro-Israel figures, including Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, Mike Huckabee as Israel ambassador, and Elise Stefanik as UN ambassador, sparking discontent.

Muslim voters hoped for peace-oriented leaders, but critics say the administration reflects “Zionist overdrive” and “neoconservative” priorities.

While some leaders feel “played,” others believe Trump’s peace promises remain valid despite concerns over his appointments. Trump’s campaign has not commented.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    7 days ago

    I’m not counting bodies, I’m saying the relative dedication to genocide is not significantly different in impact. The material difference from Biden is literally just the 2000 lb. bombs, with an unquantifiable and unreliable hope that Democrats would snap out of it and start doing better. Hope meant it was worth trying for, because a change could be a big deal, but very likely the real difference in death come January 20th is going to be minimal compared to the death that Biden has already overseen and allowed.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      I’m not counting bodies, I’m saying the relative dedication to genocide is not significantly different in impact.

      That’s literally counting bodies. Even if your 5% figure is right, that’s a difference in thousands of deaths.

      Again, would you say such a thing to someone in Gaza? That thousands more dead than there would have been otherwise is not significantly different in impact? Would you say it to a parent who’s child was amongst those thousands?

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        7 days ago

        It’s not a “right” figure, it’s an expression of small differences. Stop trying to do math and just read what I’m writing. 99 vs. 100, 99.9 vs. 100, really bad vs. slightly more bad, whatever expression you’d prefer. The difference in impact is limited because Biden has presented practically no restriction or resistance.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          I think you are the one who needs to do math, because you’re going from a 5% difference to a 1% difference to a 0.1% difference (which I don’t think you have realized) and I am saying that if you asked anyone in Palestine they would say that even one less death would be preferable. Especially if that one less death was their child.

          Every life lost is a significant impact. Every human being in this world has a potential to make a massive difference.

          And I’m sad that you don’t seem to understand that.

          • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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            7 days ago

            You need to keep reading my posts until you get it through your head that I didn’t pick 5% or 1% or 0.1% because there was an estimate of increased casualties, it’s just an expression of the degradation being marginal. None of the numbers mean anything. One is worse (Trump), but on this issue not by a lot, and when someone is voting emotionally because they know people who been killed, they may not be in the head space to see a small difference as more important than their anger.

            You can talk about passionless objective voters calculating death percentages all you want, but that was never the topic of conversation. I’m not in that population, I made my calculation and a little less death is worth it, but I don’t blame anyone who lost a relative, watched Harris and Biden barely even give lip service to them and their community, and then told them to go fuck themselves. Haha, leopard sure ate their faces, what idiots.