I legitimately did not believe it was possible for this to happen. There’s always a hateful minority but I believe people as a whole are good. How did this happen?

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    I don’t think you’re wrong, but what could she have done better?

    I never expected that Trump had a chance, but this is the first time he’s won the popular vote too. Something really turned people off of Harris, and I’m curious what it was.

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      but what could she have done better?

      She could’ve ran policies popular with her base instead of ignoring it and cozying up to Republicans. She could’ve made real campaign promises instead of just repeating “I’m not Trump” ad infinitum. She could’ve, you know, actually campaigned instead of repeating the mistakes of 2016.

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        What policies would have been better to promote?

        I felt that Trump had fewer campaign promises and just as much “Kamala bad”, and it didn’t stop him from winning.

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          Trump has never been able policies; Trump is a culture war candidate who says what his voters want to hear. Comparing him to dem candidates is a mistake.

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            No, they obviously play by different rules. But they’re in and we’re out, and we need to figure out why or it’s going to stay that way.

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          I don’t agree that she had no platform other than I’m not Trump, but she certainly shifted right as the race went on and lost more and more support as she did it

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          So I read the article and… Uh… Not convinced. Her platform was vague “nothing will fundamentally change” slop. I mean Biden’s term did have many good initiatives that it would be nice to keep, but yeah this ain’t it.

          However, she has not provided many details on her plans,

          We call that in plain English “not making promises”. I mean hell she couldn’t even commit to keeping Lina Khan.

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      She could have held to her no-fracking stance, broke with Biden over Gaza, not promised to build a border wall, or not promised to put a Republican in the cabinet. Any one of these might have made the difference

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        It’s wild to me that when she realized she had to somewhat distance herself from Biden she chose to say she’d have a republican in her cabinet. Not something about helping the working class more, or not supplying and funding a genocide that’s incredibly unpopular with what should be her base.

        Stuff like that along with “having the most lethal military” and campaigning with Cheney alienated leftists, student, and Muslim voters which all could have been easy wins.

        Economically people don’t feel better under Biden than they did 4 years ago which while the inflation largely isn’t his fault she still needed to meaningfully project she would be different than him to get working class voters and she didn’t effectively do that since she wasn’t pushing a populist message.

        She clearly doesn’t know how to campaign well (pretty sure I heard she had Clinton staffers giving advice to her campaign lol) but that shouldn’t be a surprise since she was the first candidate to drop out of the 2020 primary.

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      She aligned herself with (1) the most unpopular republican vice president and warmonger of our generation, (2) did not distance herself from an unpopular president, (3) did not on any level run a non-traditional media campaign all while watching the Trump campaign triple down on it.

      The actual true answer is that it’s only her fault given the opportunity, but she in fact should never have been given the opportunity—Biden should have prepared to be a one term president and give years of lead time for a competent candidate to challenge the very obvious and inevitable campaign Trump ran.

      Trump vote totals is sideways. Hers went down 12MM from 2020.

      I live in a red state and vote blue. Trump is bad for the country. But the silver lining is that the Dems are now forced to have self reflection that they refused to have four years ago, and hopefully field a legitimately viable candidate in 2028.