If you haven’t read about it before, the term comes from the band Van Halen, who demanded that there were no brown M&M’s backstage. People thought it was just a crazy rock star thing, but David Lee Roth later explained that it had a purpose:
Van Halen was the first band to take huge productions into tertiary, third-level markets. We’d pull up with nine 18-wheeler trucks, full of gear, where the standard was three trucks, max. And there were many, many technical errors—whether it was the girders couldn’t support the weight, or the flooring would sink in, or the doors weren’t big enough to move the gear through.
… So just as a little test, in the technical aspect of the rider, it would say, “Article 148: There will be 15 amperage voltage sockets at 20-foot spaces, evenly, providing 19 amperes … ” This kind of thing. And article number 126, in the middle of nowhere, was, “There will be no brown M&M’s in the backstage area, upon pain of forfeiture of the show, with full compensation.”
So, when I would walk backstage, if I saw a brown M&M in that bowl … well, line-check the entire production. Guaranteed you’re going to arrive at a technical error. They didn’t read the contract. Guaranteed you’d run into a problem. Sometimes it would threaten to just destroy the whole show. Something like, literally, life-threatening.
My Brown M&M atm is AI-generated comments like this (first comment is referencing something like df = ... that they removed from the code, but left the comment, second comment is super useless):
# Assuming df is your DataFrame
# Show the plot
plt.show()
That probably means whoever I got the code from just copy/pasted whatever the LLM spit out, and didn’t actually think about the code at all.
What is a small detail that you pay attention to because it means there’s bigger issues to watch out for?
Turtle.
My 11th grade English teacher would hand back essay assignments with grades at the top and no markings throughout. I tended to get high but not perfect grades, but the impetuousness of youth got the better of me. In my next essay, which I wrote normally, I wrote the word “turtle” in the middle of a sentence somewhere in the middle of each main body paragraph. Just somewhere in the middle of a sentence I turtle copy pasted the word “turtle.”
That paper made a 94. There was no mention of it. I’m pretty sure she just graded on who she liked and I wasn’t a problem.
I see what you did there
did you turtle?
He turtley did
I had a teacher who was rumoured to make up their opinion of a student in the first two semesters, then just eyeball it from there.
I submitted my final assignment hosted on a web server and gave them the link as my submission - saving the logs to see who connected to the URL. Anyway, no one outside me connected to that web server before it was graded.
83/100 which honestly feels about exactly what it deserves. So even knowing they just skimmed the source code on most of my assignments, I never found that the grades were out of synch with how I myself would have graded them.
When it’s time for my car to get an oil change I make sure my windshield fluid is empty. It’s a full service oil change and they claim they check ALL fluids. If it’s still empty I question how good or a job they’ve done and what else they skip
My friend bought an old BMW and was taking it to the dealer for maintenance.
Every oil change there was some overpriced small thing wrong that he had to pay for and then adding insult injury at the end they would charge him serious amounts of money for fluid top off. The amount they charged him for windshield washer fluid was enough to buy about five containers of windshield washer fluid. So tired of these antics he went out and he filled the windshield washer fluid 100% to the top there was no air in the jug whatsoever. He took it in for an oil change, they charged him for a windshield washer top off. He demanded the service manager and said that he had topped it off to the very top and there’s no way they added even a teaspoon of windshield washer fluid to it. The service manager refused to take the windshield washer fill off the bill and said they’d give him a credit for the next time he needed windshield washer fluid.
He never went back.
Honestly, the first mistake was a rookie mistake, to trust the dealer on maintenance. The dealer is always a vampire. The only reason to go to the dealer is when your trusted local repair garage recommends it when they do not have a real solution to the problem.
Good thing your friend never went back to the dealer.
Windshields. Unless you just want a generic from Safelite or wherever, OEM windshields are typically superior.
But yes, stay away from the Stealer
FWIW 3rd party companies (safelite in my experience) can get and install genuine OEM glass. Does not always have to be a dealer.
or a free recall repair
Whenever I show up to a “mobilization project” which involves lifting and mounting shipping containers of machinery and IT equipment onboard ships, I check whether the containers have had their grounding wires attached, as well as checking of the deck welds have been spray painted with protective coating.
If not, I need to check if the cable runs are properly done, deck fiberoptics protected from crane operations, antenna mounted without obstructions, etc.Checking random coax cable connections whether they’ve gotten a proper dose of molycote inside is also a pretty good indicator, but the tech department has gotten really attentive in regards to that. The grounding wire is really the only brown M&M I have left on them.
I don’t have photos of myself on the internet and do not participate in group photos. If I see a photo of myself online I know, for a fact, that the person who posted it does not respect my privacy, therefore they do not respect me. I will not trust them with any information about myself and others and in general will cut them out of my life if at all possible. Because of this I don’t have people who violate boundaries they don’t share, so if I said “Actually, I think I may be a woman” or “I have been thinking about leaving the country” they would not immediately judge or try to prevent my doing so, they would let me be and respect my needs. Also because of this I am much more comfortable working on things with these people to make life better and to invest in their wellbeing.
My kids school used my kids photos in their community outreach pamphlets that went to tens of thousands of homes in the area.
We have a media policy contract on file with them to not do this. When it was brought up they acted like we were overreacting.
I told them I had history with a stalker in my past that still tries to reach out and make contact, and they have endangered my children because of their negligence. I asked them if they were ready to open themselves for a lawsuit should anything happen in the future and the Superintenant just sat there quietly with nothing to say.
IMO people don’t take their privacy seriously enough until someone is hunting them down to rape and kill them.
I used to work in serious sim. Think using game engines for realistic combat stimulation and training by the army. Systems had to interact and had different jobs rts, fps, driving simulator, etc.
So they each needed a unit database that was unique to that system. They also usually had a two versions a classified database and a less accurate non classified database.
A quick way to test was there was a unit type that was always set to invulnerable in unclassified databases. So drop one in the sim and drop some artillery on it. If it wasn’t destroyed you were unclassified.
Seems like a really roundabout way to do this, surely a unit test (no pun intended) would’ve been a better solution?
We should have totally called it a unit test.
So the area for this was used for both training of soldiers and demos for people without security clearances. So it frequently had to be switched between the two. So you get everything setup and ready.
As a last test you drop the unit in and blam it. Then you go to each system and check the unit status. If it’s ok you are good to demo to civilians.
A unit test wouldn’t work because it’s a deployment situation and a lot the software wasn’t under our control. A lot of time it was just making sure the DIS HLA gateway was properly configured and entities remapped.
Why
Some people can see classified systems and some can’t.
I leave a statement in each version of my resume, and see if a recruiter mentions it. It’s like “ask me about the western 5-legged salamander and how it’s linked to the Olympics” (hint: 5 rings) or something equally absurd but a little more relevant.
If they say the line, then I know they read it. If I ask, “so, did you catch the Olympics?”, and they still don’t pick up on it, they’re judged.
The first thing that came to my mind was car repair.
This one wasn’t one purpose. I went to a shop for an oil change and 10,000 point inspection or whatever they called it. I knew one of my headlight bulbs went out a week before, but when I got the inspection report, it said everything was fine. I went to the shop manager and asked him to confirm that the mechanic had checked everything on the report. I didn’t blame him for the oversight, but he was kind of a dick when I pointed it out and had him do everything again until they found the problem.
Also, my dad always wrote the date on his air filters when he put them in because mechanics would often keep a dirty one laying around just to show it to customers and tell them that it was their filter and it needed replaced. He always got a kick out of calling them out on that kind of bullshit.
I’m one who does all the basic maintenance on my car, so if I had someone push a filter at me saying it needed replacing my response would be I didn’t ask for them to remove it and I change my own filters. Then I’d demand they put it back in with me watching, because it’s probably not out of my car and it’s going to be very awkward when there’s a filter still in there.
Got to always find a shop that you can trust, random ones will eventually screw you even in small ways. I’ve caught missing lugnuts and 50 psi on a tire, and from a dealership for recall work they forgot to reconnect something and it was running terribly. On the flip side the guy I know has called me on the phone and explained exactly what he found and a range of options and prices and recommendations. It’s no wonder I return for his business when I need it, I don’t have to worry about being ripped off. (I do still check behind, can’t help the OCD when it comes to the car lol)
this happened this weekend, I had my transmission fluid changed at 125k miles, went in for oil this weekend at 134k, told me my trans fluid was “dirty and low”. I use the Drivvo app and showed him I did trans fluid when I got new tires, wtf are you talking about.
I always used check the spare tire pressure and note of it was low. Nobody’s going to question your thoroughness if you’re checking the spare tire.
“this MF checked my spare, I’m not questioning whether he put washer fluid. you can if you want.”
Partner and I once test drove a car that had “passed” a something something-point inspection at the dealer. As partner turns onto the highway he realizes it doesn’t have a rear-view mirror. We were not impressed with that dealership. (Partner later said that when he got in he made sure the mirrors were adjusted, but his brain didn’t clock that there wasn’t a rear-view mirror until he had to use it. TBF, the missing mirror wasn’t pointed the wrong way.)
Same dealership tried to badmouth my Prius in order to get it as a trade-in. Partner had introduced me as his roommate and driver, which made it even weirder.
It’s a good test when working with people that you don’t know, contractors, etc. In the automotive industry we work with a lot of electronic system suppliers and they deliver embedded software in the form of ECU. Software in this form can hide a multitude of horrors so the only way to keep track of it is to make release declarations, implying testing has been carried out. If that’s not present, you can’t trust it.
I guess it’s not so much a test I perform but a signal I listen for. However my attitude toward lying is probably a bit different from most people. It’s a major red flag for me, and usually, people are completely unaware they’re waving it. Even if it’s something relatively inconsequential, when I see someone effortlessly lying to another person, I assume they’d do the same to me. The fact that they’re so oblivious to it, not even trying to hide it, just strengthens the signal that lying is normal for them. This applies to many, if not most white lies as well.
With the advent of LLMs and access to anyone, there’s been repeated posts about instructors putting some oddball directions in white within the text of a question. Not perfect as a copy/paste into Notepad will show it, but it gets the laziest ones, especially the ones that don’t even review what the LLM gave them.
Everytime with a project when you ask a document that says what has been agreed with the customer and the estimate for a planning and they look at you like a deer in the headlights to then forward a document from the sales guy that just says “we’ll do everything” and a phone book sized map with “a few additional demands from the customer.” Yeah, that project is auditioning for a role as the Hindenburg.
I work in the event industry as a production manager, I get to write these things.
As is typical when you have a large crew there will be dietary restrictions, some of them can be deadly. So before me or any of my crew starts unloading the truck I need to have a cold Dr. Pepper in my hand. If I don’t, we doordash, we do not eat the food provided.
I go to peoples’ homes as a part of my job, and it’s often remarked that how messy someone’s home is seems to correspond to how their life and state of being fares overall.
This does not bode well for me… Does it count if I clean up when I know you’re coming?
A little bit but not entirely. It would count to be willing to do that but would subtract from that if you only did it because I was coming over.
So messy is good, or…
I’ve always loved a messy house. I think it’s cultural
The opposite.
I’m not telling as if word gets out people will do that. Just like lazy people now remove brown m&ms without doing the rest of the work.
No idea what field you’re in, but of course you have to adjust it regularly. This year it’s brown m&Ms. Next year it’s a bowl of only yellow ones. The year after, it’s Skittles (no red ones). Kit Kats already split into individual bars. A bowl of Skittles mixed with corn flakes. Brown m&MS as decoy for people skimming for the clause, then later another one about 3 musketeers at the bar. I could come up with enough for an entire career without even leaving the candy realm.
It’s meant to be a very simple, but specific task that is easily performed by anyone that actually read and followed the instructions. It could be a bottle of Dr Pepper (as someone else mentioned), or wearing a yellow shirt upon arrival, or calling the lead “Chief”
Mostly I was being snarky, I can’t recall a situation where I’ve been concerned enough to leave such a tell.
Though there is a good warning there: if people expect you are leaving a tell they will look for it. Splitting kit kat bars is easy and obviously not something you really care about except to check so they do that, then skimp on the hard things you care about in hopes that you don’t crawl under the stage to check the bracing is done right. Thus whatever tell you leave make sure there are a few that are hard enough to check that they think you won’t.
The M&Ms are to avoid ACCIDENTAL problems caused by not paying attention to detail.
If they read the guidelines, purposely disregard them and try to hide it, that’s a whole different kind of negligence that’s pretty much out of your hands.
everyone knows that. People pay more attention when they know you check and the most where they think you will check. the only reason for the m&m thing is it is easy to check so anyone who has heard of this will be extra careful to do that. Meanwhile the hard to check places might be ignored. The m&m work well when it came off as spoiled brats asking for something stupid. Nevermind the dangerious fireworks on an unsupported stage, those brats screamed about the m&ms.
I say howdy to gauge people’s initial reaction when I first meet them. Their reaction to the corny and outdated term is telling about their mental picture of the world. It is the only time I use the word.
What do you feel like it tells you about them?
Emotional disposition, logic skills, open mindedness, how a person makes assumptions and inference, maturity, stereotypes, etc. It is a baseline of little value, but it is often a tell that indicates whether a person is worth the time to talk to further. I’m introverted and prefer not to talk verbally. I’m nothing like the typical Southern good ole boy in beliefs, politics, religion, science, or interests. I only like to talk to people that are abstracted in functional thought, that question everything without taking offense, or confuse words for intent or actions; people with depth. A person’s ability to think beyond the first few seconds of an encounter and revise initial assumptions speaks volumes about what is going on in their head. Here in Southern California, if a person accepts the oddity without notice, or they take a passive aggressive or polarized stance, they tip their hand as someone uninteresting and not worth spending any more of my time.
You may have more in common with people from the south than you realize. I live in WNC where plenty of people use that word regularly. Folks in the mountains have widely varying knowledge bases and depth that they often don’t reveal right away. It might seem out of place in Southern California, but you may be shutting yourself off to the possibility that someone could surprise you and offer insight from a perspective you hadn’t considered.
Interesting litmus. Thanks for explaining. I hope it continues to serve you well.
Let’s mosey.
I went through a cowboy phase as a kid, and this salutation is the only remnant. I don’t even think about it, it’s just how I’ve been greeting people for all my life.
I only really think about how it sounds when people chuckle or smile at it. It just sounds normal to me.
Wow, as someone who says howdy to people all the time, I’m surprised you get any kind of reaction at all other than “hi” back.
Same. “Howdy!” is my standard greeting.
How y’all doin?
Same old. ‘boutchyew?
A hoy hoy
I say howdy at least a few times a day. 🤷🏻♂️
Howdy fellow Texan!
Nope. I just said it ironically enough times that it’s now an undeniable part of my vocabulary.
Be careful what you do ironically lest it become done ronically
