A 49-year-old Las Vegas man was arrested near former President Donald Trump’s rally in Coachella on Saturday with a loaded firearm and a high-capacity magazine, the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department said Sunday.

Deputies assigned to the rally contacted the driver of a black SUV at a checkpoint near the intersection of Avenue 52 and Celebration Drive just before 5 p.m. Saturday, sheriff’s officials said.

They allegedly found the driver in possession of a shotgun, a loaded handgun and a high-capacity magazine. The driver was identified as Vem Miller, and was taken into custody and later booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a loaded firearm and possessing a high-capacity magazine.

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    What about all the good guys with guns? We can stop this guy with guns in his car but school shootings? Impossible to prevent.

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    high-capacity magazine

    Notice how they never tell you what high capacity is.

    A normal handgun–as in, a regular Glock 17–will have magazines that hold anywhere from 13-21 rounds in a bone-stock configuration, depending on caliber. The only firearms that don’t have this kind of capacity are micro-compacts, and guns that were originally designed by John Moses Browning before WWII.

    This is sleight of hand to make it seem like the perpetrator was doing something deeply nefarious, when damn near any defensive handgun is going to have a “high capacity” magazine straight from the factory.

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    I consider this a step in the right direction.

    The deranged armed lunatics are now starting to attack someone who deserves it instead of random innocent children.

    This is actually MORE normal than the school shootings, and makes more sense. School children aren’t coming for your lives and livelihoods, but DonOLD tRump? Definitely trying to make your life immeasurably worse in measurable ways.

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      That’s why I pee near playgrounds. It’s win win win.

      1. It keeps me out of the 3 most dangerous parts of every American town: K-12 Elementary schools, middle schools, and highschools.

      2. I haven’t gotten lost or needed directions since they made me a dot on the kiddie fucker map.

      3. Last but certainly not least, forgot to pullout? Just show any woman the big red dot marking you on the kiddie fucker map and no woman in their right fuckin mind bats an eye at covering the cost for Plan B or Plan Ayyyyyyyyye 👈anabortionsayswut?

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      I would be interested to see what information comes out on this one. A shotgun and handgun isn’t going to do shit for an assassination attempt. Unless you are Gavrilo Princip.

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          He also was able to get much closer to Abe because guns are illegal in Japan. This gave the assassin a number of avenues of cover. It was a makeshift weapon so didn’t really look like a gun, it wasn’t easy for security to identify it as a gun, and the lack of guns added to the sense of security allowing people to be closer to Abe.

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        Handguns did the job on Ronald Reagan and almost for Gerald Ford.

        Leaving Abe Lincoln to one side, but if you are lucky and your security detail is a bit lax, a handgun can get the job done. I’m Australian, so we don’t see much of that sort of thing.

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          Lincoln completely different story. Doesn’t count.

          Garfield shot by a walk up, McKinley, Reagan; all same.

          Jackson one failed, T. Roosevelt one failed, F. D. Roosevelt one miss, Ford two (nothing chambered, to slow),

          Bush one shoe and some “cat like reflects.” Also a handkerchief almost got his ass.

          That is it. U.S. history over the last 248 years.

          A Nevada man with a shotgun, loaded handgun, ammunition and several fake passports in his vehicle was arrested at a security checkpoint outside Donald Trump’s rally Saturday night in the Southern California desert, authorities said. He was released the same day on $5,000 bail.

          The suspect, a 49-year-old resident of Las Vegas, was driving an unregistered black SUV with a “homemade” license plate that was stopped by deputies assigned to the rally in Coachella, east of Los Angeles, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said at a news conference Sunday afternoon.

          I wonder how they spotted him?

          https://apnews.com/article/trump-rally-arrest-coachella-california-282a384e3fae256352c685174a3a74f4

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

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            You seem to be implying that handguns don’t count even though it has happened, or actual attempts, multiple times. Ok…?

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              I’m saying serious attempts in 2024 won’t be a close range weapon. Back in the 1800s or early 1900s it was an option. The wiki is a very interesting read. Hell Reagan almost died from a horrible shot that got luck.

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        Anyone who knows anything about direct action knows that backups are mandatory and it’s hard to carry several long guns.

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          You’re not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon, definitionally after two assassinations.

          Feels more like a dumbass forgot to remove their weapons or “it doesn’t apply to me” person. I would actually like to see someone look up how often this happens outside this year.

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            Yeah, this was never going to work with how they stepped up security now. He’s got a giant bulletproof glass pane in front of him now, and they’ve probably expanded the security perimeter.

            The guy that tried to get him while golfing probably had a better strategy, but it seems to me none of those ever thought things true.

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            You’re not walking into a presidential rally with short to medium range weapon,

            If you believe the conspiracy theories saying the secret service is either farcically incompetent or actively turning a blind eye to assassination attempts, then you might actually think you can.

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        “high-capacity magazine” can refer to anything ranging from a fairly standard AR15 30-round stanag mag to a 200-round box magazine. Like, technically a high-capacity magazine is any magazine that holds more rounds than a standard magazine for a given firearm; but legally-speaking most states with laws regulating magazine capacity tend to define “high-capacity” as being more than 10~15 rounds for rifles.

        So they could have had a normal Glock-19 magazine (illegal in some states as they hold 15 rounds, more than some states allow pistols to have) or a loose AR15 magazine in their glovebox from their last gunshoot, or they could have had a 100 round drum mag for their Glock.

        Edit: California sounds like they have a universal 10-round magazine limit, which means a standard G19 magazine would be illegal.

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        Looks like this is California. High capacity there is just a standard magazine you get most everywhere else.

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      It’s kind of amazing how this is suddenly all blowing back on him. His years of calling for violence is just causing all these guys to aim that violence towards him. Did he say something that pissed off/disappointed a subset of his followers or something?

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        The problem with riling up crazy people is they are crazy, and as a result somewhat unpredictable.

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        If he’s a SovCit, I’m surprised he doesn’t have an RPG in his car to be honest. And it wouldn’t have anything to do with Trump. It would have to do with their contract being violated or whatever.

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            I think you’d be surprised what people can afford to buy when they prioritize their spending… especially in the deserts of CA. I’ve met people out there with actual functioning canons that regularly fire freaking canonballs into the mountains, and to look at them you would guess they are both homeless and heroic addicts who haven’t bathed in a week… and you would only be wrong on the homeless part, and only partly wrong on that one.

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              I met a guy once who was poor as shit, and had recently had to sell his car. He apparently owned a machine gun, and he carried around his little… certificate or whatever it is that he got from the ATF indicating he owned it and showed the paper to anyone that would pay attention to him.

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            I may possibly not have been serious.

            But also, as you will see if you hang out with us at InsanePeopleFacebook, plenty of them drive nice cars. And they can afford to pay lots of money to grifters who claim to tell them the cheat codes to beat the system.

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    So the NRA is going to hold a press conference about how this man’s second amendment rights were infringed, right?

    Also, every time I see “Trump rally in Coachella,” for just a second I think, “why is he holding a rally at the music festival?”

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      Up until right now, I always thought Coachella was just the name of the festival, not a place - sort of like Burning Man.

      I’ve never been more confused by a headline in my life.

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    Is it my imagination or are these dim-witted assassins getting easier to catch. Trump didn’t even get to bandage his ear this time.

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      Nothing really points to him being a wannabe assassin, other than the fact that he had guns near where Trump was and bogus paperwork. The guy’s a sovcit. Being armed to the teeth and having fake papers is what they do. As for why he’d be at a Trump rally, well… it’s the same reason you’d find klansmen dancing around a burning cross. Guarantee the Trumpers are going to throw this guy under the bus immediately, though, despite the fact that there’s nothing indicating he wanted to kill Trump, and despite a lot of Trumpers being open carriers themselves.

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    They found him with a shotgun and a handgun and they think they stopped an assassination attempt? Sounds like bs; you’re not going to get close enough to use those unless someone really messes up at their job.

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      I think it’s just the media trying to conflate it with assassination attempts. I doubt anyone involved actually thinks it was, but now Trump gets to throw this crap around and his supporters will believe it.

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        The article quotes the sheriffs dept as saying that they stopped an assassination attempt; the media is just reporting what they said. So, it sounds like the sheriffs dept are just inflating the issue to make themselves look better, which will give the trump campaign more fuel.

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          So, it sounds like the sheriffs dept are just inflating the issue to make themselves look better, which will give the trump campaign more fuel.

          And the media is doing its usual thing of not doing its job to verify claims at all and just printing whatever some asshole in a hat said at a podium.

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            I’m not sure what purpose the media even serves if they just report what random sheriffs say as fact, it seems downright negligent in fact.

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    I call bullshit. He wasn’t there to assassinate Trump. If he was, they sure as shit aren’t letting him out on $5k bond the same day with only minor charges.