Today several users reported that a handful of significant Cartoon Network shows—including Ben 10, Steven Universe, Regular Show, the 2016 Powerpuff Girls revival, Amazing World of Gumball, We Bare Bears, and Chowder—were suddenly no longer streaming on Max with the turn of the month, with no prior announcement of their impending removal.

Just removing Steven Universe alone seems insane to me. I’m not into it, but it has a massive fan base.

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    If they have old shows you like they can’t sell you new shows.

    It’s all artificial scarcity, just ask the millions of people pirating content.

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    It’s not a cartoon but I still don’t understand why I can’t watch episodes of Tales From the Crypt on Max. It was an HBO show.

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    Max is notoriously capricious. If I remember correctly, they have a terrible reputation with animation on their platform.

    In a sense I’m surprised these cartoons remained on there as long as they did.

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    “io9 has reached out to Max for comment and clarification on the removal, and whether or not the departures were intentional updates to Max’s catalogue or if, like the recent situation with Over the Garden Wall on Hulu, an oversight that will be corrected.”

    Artwork doesn’t re-Photoshop itself accidentally. This was all intentional.

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      But your home server’s drive can malfunction and then you’re stuck. Unless you make regular backups I guess.

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        RAID1 is cheap. It’s not a fool proof solution but has saved my Plex library a couple times over the years.

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          Hell, raid 5 isn’t that expensive. 4 bay enclosure with some drives and your set.

          You can even run most of your services on them if you choose wisely. I run all of my arr apps on my NAS along with the torrent client. I use a little SFF PC as my Plex server for the extra power to transcode.

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        I do have a backup! I just use 4 HDD in raid 1, two separate data pools. so far works great, I’d love to upgrade them from 8tb to 16th one day but for my needs I’m ok for now

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          If you aren’t doing more you have a parity drive, not backups, to be clear.

          If a drive fails you can resilver and your data is fine.

          If someone with write/delete access makes a mistake and deletes everything, or ransomware encrypt all your files, you can’t just “restore from last week’s backup” because you don’t have one.

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    From my understanding, Max has to pay every time the show is viewed. So there’s a calculation they have, how many subscribers will they lose by removing it?

    For reference, they removed Westworld.

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      It’s too bad they couldn’t pay a certain amount in one lump sum to produce a limited number of, say, small physical discs that play video for people to buy more often.

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      But… wouldn’t that “take up” the views of other shows?

      In other words, the consumer has X amount of time for HBO Max, so they’d either be paying for more views on another show or a potential lost subscriber who can’t find anything to watch, right?

      And, with all due respect, there’s no way cartoons are more expensive-per-view than other shows.

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        Ideally they would subscribe and then watch a different service. Or maybe a different cartoon is cheaper per view. Or maybe it’s a retroactive contract negotiation tactic. Basically negotiate or you won’t get any residuals.

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          Ideally they would subscribe and then watch a different service.

          Thats so cynical and self defeating. “They’ll use our competition and save us money.” But you’re not wrong, they could totally be thinking that rofl.

          Or maybe it’s a retroactive contract negotiation tactic. Basically negotiate or you won’t get any residuals.

          Very possible. I guess all that is even more behind-the-curtain than cable, as when shows disappear there is no reason given, no “protest” like some channels will do.

          I feel like streaming has made all this stuff even more opaque.

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      Max pays who? Warmer Bros owns both Max and Cartoon Network. Are they legit paying themselves, that’s so stupid it must be true.

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    Oh no! Not Steven Universe! Anyway…

    (Goes back to watching SU on my Plex server)

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    As a long-time fan of CN and AS, this always happens. Their stuff always gets pushed/ split between platforms like crazy. It’s a lot more common now, but they’ve always had that problem. I love their content, but damn does it make me want to sail the seas.

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    Reminds me of WhatCulture’s video yesterday on 10 great shows that you cannot stream anywhere:

    https://youtu.be/BHb511kO6VA

    There are several HBO Max cartoons on there.

    Time to sail the seas to preserve artwork.

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        Slightly less click baity than WatchMojo. I enjoy their presenters and I get a rundown of lesser known movies. I have watched a few WatchMojo videos and the presenters seem a bit stale.

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      And these clowns wonder why people pirate shit. There’s a subscription for everything now and they still limit what content you can watch.

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    I must be old. Getting high and watching Power Puff Girls was a lot of fun when it was new. But everyone is talking about Steven Universe, and I have no idea what that is.

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        Oh yeah, I’m old. No idea what that would even look like.

        Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to groan loudly as I get up from my chair.

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            I watched the whole thing because of my ex. This is an apt description. Just when you think the show will do something cool they just go “I’m sorry” and hug it out.

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      You could try watching it…

      For what it’s worth, I like it, and I’m kinda old.