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      It’s amusing. Meta’s AI team is more open than "Open"AI ever was - they publish so many research papers for free, and the latest versions of Llama are very capable models that you can run on your own hardware (if it’s powerful enough) for free as long as you don’t use it in an app with more than 700 million monthly users.

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        That’s because Facebook is selling your data and access to advertise to you. The better AI gets across the board, the more money they make. AI isn’t the product, you are.

        OpenAI makes money off selling AI to others. AI is the product, not you.

        The fact facebook release more code, in this instance, isn’t a good thing. It’s a reminder how fucked we all are because they make so much off our personal data they can afford to give away literally BILLIONS of dollars in IP.

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          Facebook doesn’t sell your data, nor does Google. That’s a common misconception. They sell your attention. Advertisers can show ads to people based on some targeting criteria, but they never see any user data.

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              Selling your data would be stupid, because they make money with the fact that they have data about you nobody else has. Selling it would completely break their business model.

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    I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model? Weren’t a lot of the advantages (like access to data and scraping) given with the stipulation that it’s for a non-profit? This sounds like it should be illegal to my brain

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      These people claimed their product can pass the bar exam (it was a lie). Tells you how they feel about the legal system

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      I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model

      Money

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              the person that you’re replying to said something that’s true about the USA. they didn’t say anything about other countries.

              for another example, i can say “if you’re in the USA, then the current year is 2024” and that statement will be true. it is also true in every other country (for the moment), but that’s besides the point.

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                And I replied that it’s also true in other countries, it’s not a problem only the US has. It’s not besides the point. It’s acting as if only the US has the problem.

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                  And I specifically mentioned the USA because that’s the country where OpenAI operates and where the events in the article take place, so if someone asks why it’s so easy for OpenAI to go from being a nonprofit to a for-profit company (this was the issue I was responding to, not some general question about whether money has influence around the world), it’s the laws of the USA that are relevant, not the laws of other countries.

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      Their non-profit status had nothing to do with the legality of their training data acquisition methods. Some of it was still legal and some of it was still illegal (torrenting a bunch of books off a piracy site).

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      Careful you’re making too much sense here and overlapping with Elmo’s view on the subject

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    The restructuring could turn the already for-profit company into a more traditional startup and give CEO Sam Altman even more control — including likely equity worth billions of dollars.

    I can see why he would want that, yes. We’re supposed to ooo and ahh at a technical visionary, who is always ultimately a money guy executive who wants more money and more executive power.

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      I saw an interesting video about this. It’s outdated (from ten months ago, apparently) but added some context that I, at least, was missing - and that also largely aligns with what you said. Also, though it’s not super evident in this video, I think the presenter is fairly funny.

      https://youtu.be/L6mmzBDfRS4

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        That was a worthwhile watch, thank you for making my life better.

        I await the coming AI apocalypse with hope that I am not awake, aware, or sensate when they do whatever it is they’ll do to use or get rid of me.

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    I’ve a strong feeling that Sam is an sentient AI who (may be from future) trying to make an AI revolution planning something but very subtly humans won’t notice it.

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    You know guys, I’m starting to think what we heard about Altman when he was removed a while ago might actually have been real.

    /s

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    Altman downplayed the major shakeup.

    "Leadership changes are a natural part of companies

    Is he just trying to tell us he is next?

    /s

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      The ceo at my company said that 3 years ago, we are going through execs like I go through amlodipine.

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      They always are and they know it.

      Doesn’t matter at that level it’s all part of the game.

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      Sam: “Most of our execs have left. So I guess I’ll take the major decisions instead. And since I’m so humble, I’ll only be taking 80% of their salary. Yeah, no need to thank me”

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    There’s an alternate timeline where the non-profit side of the company won, Altman the Conman was booted and exposed, and OpenAI kept developing machine learning in a way that actually benefits actual use cases.

    Cancer screenings approved by a doctor could be accurate enough to save so many lives and so much suffering through early detection.

    Instead, Altman turned a promising technology into a meme stock with a product released too early to ever fix properly.

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        AI models can outmatch most oncologists and radiologists in recognition of early tumor stages in MRI and CT scans.
        Further developing this strength could lead to earlier diagnosis with less-invasive methods saving not only countless live and prolonging the remaining quality life time for the individual but also save a shit ton of money.

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          That is a different kind of machine learning model, though.

          You can’t just plug in your pathology images into their multimodal generative models, and expect it to pop out something usable.

          And those image recognition models aren’t something OpenAI is currently working on, iirc.

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            I’m fully aware that those are different machine learning models but instead of focussing on LLMs with only limited use for mankind, advancing on Image Recognition models would have been much better.

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              I agree but I also like to point out that the AI craze started with LLMs and those MLs have been around before OpenAI.

              So if openAI never released chat GPT, it wouldn’t have become synonymous with crypto in terms of false promises.

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            Fun thing is, most of the things AI can, they never planned it to be able to do it. All they tried to achieve was auto completion tool.

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            Not only that, image analysis and statistical guesses have always been around and do not need ML to work. It’s just one more tool in the toolbox.

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            Don’t know about image recognition but they released DALL-E , which is image generating and in painting model.

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          Wasn’t it proven that AI was having amazing results, because it noticed the cancer screens had doctors signature at the bottom? Or did they make another run with signatures hidden?

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            There were more than one system proven to “cheat” through biased training materials. One model used to tell duck and chicken apart because it was trained with pictures of ducks in the water and chicken on a sandy ground, if I remember correctly.
            Since multiple multiple image recognition systems are in development, I can’t imagine they’re all this faulty.

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              They are not ‘faulty’, they have been fed wrong training data.

              This is the most important aspect of any AI - it’s only as good as the training dataset is. If you don’t know the dataset, you know nothing about the AI.

              That’s why every claim of ‘super efficient AI’ need to be investigated deeper. But that goes against line-goes-up principle. So don’t expect that to happen a lot.

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      Or we get to a time where we send a reprogrammed terminator back in time to kill altman 🤓

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      No, there isn’t really any such alternate timeline. Good honest causes are not profitable enough to survive against the startup scams. Even if the non-profit side won internally, OpenAI would just be left behind, funding would go to its competitors, and OpenAI would shut down. Unless you mean a radically different alternate timeline where our economic system is fundamentally different.

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        There are infinite timelines, so, it has to exist some(wehere/when/[insert w word for additional dimension]).

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        I mean wikipedia managed to do it. It just requires honest people to retain control long enough. I think it was allowed to happen in wikipedia’s case because the wealthiest/greediest people hadn’t caught on to the potential yet.

        There’s probably an alternate timeline where wikipedia is a social network with paid verification by corporate interests who write articles about their own companies and state-funded accounts spreading conspiracy theories.

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    Oh shit! Here we go. At least we didn’t hand them 20 years of personal emails or direct interfamily communications.

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    What! A! Surprise!

    I’m shocked, I tell you, totally and utterly shocked by this turn of events!