It’s impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing
Can someone ELI5 how searx works and if it’s worth the hassle of hosting? I’m privacy conscious but not paranoid.
Can someone ELI5 how searx works
It sends your search query to a bunch of different existing search engines, and shows you all of the results in one combined page
if it’s worth the hassle of hosting
Personally idk, maybe someone else can provide their opinion about this
Searx (as others have said) is an aggregate of multiple search engines all bundled into one, with very finetuned customization (ie: you can toggle every search option you want or not within each category).
You also don’t need to host your own, though I’m not sure what the significance of being self hosted in this case is.
As far as usefulness over other search sites, it’s generally better with some caveats. Search engines as a whole are in a pretty awful state, so combining them is better, but still not that good. It does offer some very niche search engines that can be extremely useful when pooled together though, which is nice.
Searx also has some captcha issues that I haven’t quite figured out. My understanding is that essentially, search engines don’t like when you use their engine without being on their site, and it’ll stop working via searx (until you go to the site in question and do the captcha maybe?).
There’s also a few different domains for searx with varying degrees of availability as far as what engines they reliably connect to.
All in all, searx is great by comparison to mainstream trash, but it can be a headache to setup, and a headache to maintain. There’s a masterlist of searx hosts somewhere, I’ll try and see about finding it if someone else doesn’t link it.
There’s a masterlist of searx hosts somewhere, I’ll try and see about finding it if someone else doesn’t link it.
It’s here: https://searx.space/
It scraps other search engines either locally or remotely from someone else’s server. I used it for a while, then switched back to duckduckgo. Duckduckgo is what I recommend if you are lazy.
I like kagi more than ddg. It’s not free but meh.
It’s not free but meh
That is definitely not a “but meh” statement. Who the fuck pays for a search engine? Especially these days when every other aspect of life already requires a subscription?
Obviously I pay for a search engine. The advertising funded web is shit.
SearXNG is also amazing. The only reason I don’t use it more is because it doesn’t have an integration into the URL bar in Firefox.
Dude. When you’re looking at whatever search just right click in the url bar and there will be an option to add that search engine. Then in settings you can make it your default if you wish.
The reason I don’t use SearXNG is because the public instances always seem to be slow and or broken.
Can’t you add it manually?
Yes, but you may need to mess with about:config. I just added Jies as a search engine so I can type ticket numbers.
we got woogle which is a frontend for google
Whoogle is dead.
So, did it never occur to you that you can manually add custom search engine into Firefox?
Settings>search>manage alternate search engines>add search engine
still looks better than the average Google search
Softonic be like every app you want we have it, even the non exist ones. But once you installed our apps you already have made a pact with the devil
Does anyone know exactly what malware they are serving? I’m tempted to run it though virustotal.
It’s not malware it’s more adware. At least it used to be
At least what you are looking for, is on the first page. With Google you get half a page of ads not relevant to your search, and two pages of SEO garbage, before you get to a relevant search.
The only thing bing is good for is watching porn and I will stand by that opinion.
How?
Just do a video search for whatever your kink is and turn off safe search
Oh I thought it has some hidden proxy feature to access porn in workspace.
“Do you guys not have phones?”
We prefer the big display wall at work, that’s the point of workplace. Anyone can watch anything on phone anywhere, why would I go to work for that?
Brother got experience
If only they could make a functioning store. Laterally the only os now where you still have to go to a third party website for software.
Ugh. Do you really want that though? They do have a store don’t they? Just no one wants to use it.
Debian has had a browseable catalog since forever but it’s still waaay better to just go to a third party’s website and see how they say to install whatever thing.
Yeah, but that’s just because Debian’s software catalog is deliberately full of outdated and/or broken packages. It’s like that on purpose. On most other distros native packages trump third-party install scripts any day of the week. On Debian you can just use Nix or Flatpak to get good packages.
Hyperbole & subjective. Flatpaks aren’t all that.
is it based on your searches or something? both in the browser with fingerprint protection where it thinks im from Usa and from the one where it detects my correct location the first result is from logi.com. I really hate bing, specially since they started pushing ai, but dunno, doesnt seem like the normal user experience what you are getting.
Okay, totally off topic…what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it’s a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.
It conveys “I have such a disdain for that thing that I’m asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word”.
I’m not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author’s personal opinion about what is being said.
With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.
Sealioning?
Have you ever heard a sea lion? They’re super loud and they all get together and bark.
Ahahaha that’s great
I gotta be honest, the sea lion is not the bad guy in this comic. Lady randomly says some racist shit, and a member of the group she’s being racist against calls her out for being racist. And then the fact that the sea lion called the racist out is apparently justification for the initial racist statement.
Sea lion is slang for a type of behavior a person exhibits not an immutable characteristic of the person like the color of their skin. They didn’t have to prove the behavior because the behavior expressed IS the behavior.
Racism justifies harassment and home invasion? I don’t think I can necessarily agree with that. Consequences, yes. But harassment? I’ll have to think about it.
The point Malki was making, I think (and the way I take it) is less about the purpose or content of the discourse and more about the harassment veiled in false civility as a means of silencing discussion.
There’s also an element of Person C inserting themselves into a private conversation between Person A and Person B, even if that conversation is being held in a public place.
Pretend he’s not a sea lion, but a conservative, and you’ll get the intended effect.
Racism justifies harassment and home invasion?
You realize internet sealions don’t actually invade homes?
You realise the harassment stops if you don’t respond?
I realize that. The person above seemed to think that everything in this clearly allegorical comic is somehow intended to be taken literally.
Racism justifies harassment and home invasion?
Yeah. Not gonna cry over what the victims of racism do to racists.
and more about the harassment veiled in false civility as a means of silencing discussion.
How is the sea lion silencing discussion? They weren’t discussing anything, they were having a racist circlejerk. The racist lady said a racist thing and the sea lion invited discussion by asking, “Why did you say that racist thing?” and then they refused to actually explain why they’re racist against sea lions, treating it as self-evident that being racist against sea lions is correct and thus that it is unreasonable to question it.
Pretend he’s not a sea lion, but a conservative
He can’t choose not to be a sea lion. This is kind of incoherent. “Pretend he’s not black, but a conservative.” This sea lion could also be conservative, that doesn’t really have anything to do with the fact that he’s being criticized for immutable properties he was born with, not for anything of substance.
Not gonna cry over what the victims of racism do to racists.
Eh…I dunno. I’m not going to tone police anyone, and consequences for bad actions are definitely good, but do two very-wrongs make a kinda-right? I’m not sold.
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Look…if you don’t vibe with the comic, that’s fine. It’s just obviously not about all the stuff that you seem to think it’s about.
Again sea lioning is a type of behavior not a type of person or being. As a form of humor they rather than have a person embody the behavior be a literal sea lion because whimsical tension between the metaphorical sea lion also being an actual sea lion is funny.
https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning
Sea-Lioning is an Internet slang term referring to intrusive attempts at engaging an unwilling debate opponent by feigning civility and incessantly requesting evidence to back up their claims. The term was coined in September 2014 by anti-GamerGate Internet users to mock perceived online discussion tactics employed by GamerGate supporters.
Dang, that comic will be ten years old next week.
The inverse of this is that people who filter out specific words in their feeds will be tricked into seeing it. You get to piss off 2 groups of people by doing it!
Get two birds stoned at once!!
speak of the devil and he shall appear
I like the classic Usenet “Micro$oft.” Producers of Microshaft Wind-blows.
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I only ever use Michaelsoft Binbows.
Don’t forget Microshit’s renowned Orifice software suite!
It’s ironic, except for when we’re talking about the Fr*nch. It’s self aware humor that you’re being ridiculous. The tone it’s supposed to convey in situations like thisis that you’re being hyperbolically obtuse.
Yeah, that Franch dipping sauce in Breaking Bad was crazy!
Honestly, it’s better than: fck, blly and s*icide
Those are generally used for bypassing filters on TikTok and Instagram
But like, come on man, no matter how much you censor it I know the word and I get the message. Because that’s why you wrote it, you want me to read and understand it
Mainstream search engines (google and bing) are completely useless. Alternatives ftw.
I wouldn’t call bing mainstream
sadly it seems that most other search engines (like ddg) can be quite lacklustre in their image results
Yandex used to be really great. idk bout now though.
DDG image search feels a lot loke Google image search 20 years ago. Absolutely wild stuff that isn’t even related, or just straight up porn in the reaults.
Spot on
tbf it seems to be a common issue with search engines atm. brave also has the stupid ai response topmost, and startpage without adblock pushes in so many sponsored results that you need to scroll to get to anything else
I feel like most commenters here would think “no one wants the stupid ai response”, but obviously some people like it or they wouldn’t do it. I think if your searches are more general kind of “can I catch chicken pox from chickens” type questions it might be helpful ?
Except AI is famously unreliable with the accuracy of its answers.
That’s true, but I think people still appreciate it… like it’s accurate enough, enough of the time, for people to find it helpful.
That’s why it’s dangerous. If it were wrong 99% of the time people wouldn’t trust it. But being right most of the time risks people depending on it and acting on bad information which can have severe consequences.
My point is, it seems like moat people disagree with you given that search providers put this stuff in their results.
Most states charge a regressive sales tax. By your logic, the fact that people don’t refuse to pay sales tax at the register proves that people enjoy it!
Nonsense. Your metaphor is not analogous.
Sophisticated tech firms do extensive analysis with reference groups, A/B testing, et cetera.
Guaranteed, they’ve found that they get better engagement with their product through these AI results.
This might shock you but a group of 14 year olds complaining on Lemmy is not an indicative sample of opinions.
AI: to catch chicken pox from chickens rub live chicken on face
Hm. Let’s see what I get.
And here’s another one for good measure:
what’s even the point of a download link if you don’t have a guide that tells you how to click the link
Should’ve just asked your trusty copilot 🤖
And to add insult to injury…
People are going to see this, so here’s the answer.
Logitech’s web UI is crap. See that tiny, unlabled triangle on the list on the left?
Click it and pick your OS version.
Then you get the download.
And they force windows users to not use chrome
Who’d use Chrome anyway?
some non tech savvy people?
That’s good only if their choice wasnt even worst
Edge is comparable to chrome
Isn’t Edge based on Chrome?
Edge is basically Chrome but with microsoft spyware instead of google spyware… and without AVIF support for some reason!?
They added AVIF
Yep aka chromium
They do?
they try to make you not download chrome
