The father of the mass shooting suspect accused of killing four people at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.
Colt Gray, a 14-year-old student, is accused of killing two students and two teachers with an AR-style rifle in the Wednesday shooting. Nine more people were hospitalized.
One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present.
I was gifted a shotgun at 15. It was a double barrel break action shotgun from my grandmother.
I kept it in a gun rack my grandfather left me hanging on my wall. I never had issues, but if one of my friends wanted access, it probably could have been stolen.
Lock up your guns.
My dad gave me a gun for one of my earlier birthdays. It was a bolt action .22 that went right into a gun safe that I couldn’t access…It was a pretty shitty present as I didn’t enjoy hunting at the time but in retrospect I’m glad I learned gun safety and shooting.
Why the fuck would you buy a 14 year old an AR15 style rifle, especially after he already had a history of making school shooting threats at school? Dude deserves prison for a long time.
Respecting a gun as a deadly weapon makes you a pussy. Your gun is like your dick, only better because you can buy a really big one instead of being stuck with what nature gave you.
One thing I learned in the Army was someone always has a bigger gun. So it’s what you do with the one you have that matters. After all, men have captured entire trenches with nothing but a pistol; while the guys with the big guns spent weeks pounding away to no satisfaction.
(I see the door but I’m not leaving until I finish this beer. Any attempts to force me will result in more punishment)
I hate when guys with big guns are pounding away but getting no satisfaction
Makes for great video though. All those batteries lined up, and firing their shots.
I agree, love when they put some fresh batteries in and you can really feel the vibrations
Sorry, but question that’s unrelated to the story specifics:
The classroom doors lock automatically, and near the end of class, the suspect knocked on the door to try to come back in, Lyela said.
Another student went to open the door but apparently saw the gun and refused to let him in, Lyela said.
Instead, the shooter turned to a nearby classroom and opened fire, “and you hear about 10 to 15 rounds back-to-back,” Lyela said.
“I heard gunshots outside my classroom and people screaming, people begging not to get shot,” said 14-year-old student Macey Right.
Did the other rooms not lock, or was he let in because the person who opened the door in the other classroom not notice the gun?
An earlier story said the door was propped open, as if for airflow or something.
Guns kill people. Wow it’s so complicated. Americans need to examine their culture
We don’t all think the same on this issue. I for one thing that we’re well past addressing this.
And there was another shooting today with 1 dead. 2 shootings in one week. More thoughts and prayers of course. 🙄
The kid’s name is Colt and he gave him an AR instead of a Colt? Wtf
Colt makes AR15s. They held the original patent until it expired in the '70s, and then everyone else started making it too.
ok but…
Give colt a colt by colt
the addendum “sources say” is so unnecessary, how else would you know that?
Until it’s confirmed as totally factual they have to report it as hearsay. Otherwise they open themselves up to libel charges if it proves untrue.
One a sinister note, it’s the same reason FOX commentators will say “some people are saying [insert racist/sexist lie about some Democrat]” because then they aren’t the ones saying it, they’re just reporting on what “some people” have said.
Well the “sources say” implicates that they actually don’t know. They’ve just heard someone say it. So it’s definitely necessary.
conspiracy, palm reading, an opinion. There could be a variety of things.
But it’d be nice if they at least said what it was coming from.
Perhaps the father only intended his son to use his AR-15 to kill animals for fun, which is totally acceptable behaviour for any budding young psycopath.
Why these people giving weapons to their kids before they’re even in high school?
People like this put the “toxic” in toxic masculinity. “Oh, my son is having a hard time maturing and posted school shooting threats online? He just needs to grow up, firearms will help with that!”
Can we please get gun reform yet!? This doesn’t happen in other countries…
Why these people giving weapons to their kids after the sheriff first contacted you to investigate school shooting threats your kid made online,
Why giving waepons to a child at all?
Should be illegal to buy a child a gun until they are 18. You can 2A all you want about defending the country but you fuckers ain’t gonna tell me you will have a child in your militia. Can’t drive until 16, can’t smoke until 18, can’t drink until 21 but you can go out and fire deadly weapons whenever your parents say it’s cool.
you fuckers ain’t gonna tell me you will have a child in your militia
“We absolutely will.” -Conservatives
If they can work in meat processors, they can join the militia.
/s
21 now to smoke.
And hopefully they keep charging the parents. Got kids? Got firearms? They better be locked in a safe and only the parent should know the code…some people are dumb as fuck.
I didn’t know childproof door locks were so serious now adays.
I could see if you’re really into guns and you want to teach your kid the importance of gun safety, etc. But that firearm should 110% be under lock and key so that the child has no way to access it outside of parental supervision. This sounds like gross negligence, and a disturbing trend of parents for whatever reason buying troubled youth firearms in what I think most would consider counter to good judgement.
If your kid is really into guns, then buy them a bb gun for fucks sake. Teach them gun safety with something that won’t kill anyone. What kind of brain dead parents are out there thinking that buying a child a gun is a good idea? THE KID’S NOT EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE FFS
You know… This whole gun thing. You’re on to something. Some people are absolutely brain dead and have no critical thinking skills. That’s what scares me about guns. Even with the argument that guns are just tools. Have you looked around America and seen the types of people that exist? Now imagine them all owning guns.
Fucking scary.
I think part of the reason for this is that you have a lot of these dipshit parents who see headlines like this and think “the LiBeRaLs are going to use this week’s school shooting as justification for taking our guns; I’ll show them, I’ll give my children guns and be the proof that guns aren’t the problem”. At least, with how often I see the sentiment of “well my kids have guns and haven’t killed anybody” across social media, that’s my assumption.
They all think they’re responsible gun owners. And maybe some of them are. Hell, maybe most of them are. But a non-zero amount aren’t, and we need to have safeguards in place instead of “nothing we can do but pray for stronger doors on the schools”.
Except responsible gun owners wouldn’t buy their child a gun and give them access to it whenever they please. Any firearms I may or may not possess would be locked in a safe which no one but any spouse I may hypothetically have had access to. Unfortunately I lost all my firearms in a tragic boating accident a few years back.
What I’m trying to say is that, while the government shouldn’t be allowed to come check that people have their guns locked up when not in use, there should absolutely be repercussions for anyone found to not be doing so.
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AR-15-style
Sociopaths raising a sociopath. We have to stop the race to the bottom, triggering people isn’t cool, it has serious repercussions, as noted in presidential races, even.
Anyone got a list of AR-15 style guns? I have no idea why they can’t just say what it is and leave all the AR-15 shit out. I mean I know why they do it, it just sucks.
Yea for liberal news every gun is an AR-15 and for conservative news every brown person is MS-13. Both are really dumb.
My father also bought me a gun as a birthday present as a teenager, and looking back it was wholly inappropriate and dangerous. Granted, I never had thoughts of killing people.
A teenager’s brain chemistry is rapidly changing due to hormones, etc. I remember a couple days when I was about 14 where I became massively depressed for no apparent reason, just likely a temporary chemical imbalance in my brain. If I had a gun, who knows what I would have done.
I was also gifted firearms as a child. They were kept inside a locked safe that I didn’t have the combination for when not being used for hunting or target shooting. As much as I enjoy guns, hunting, and shooting, I can also see that responsibility goes beyond “it’s guaranteed in the constitution” or equivalent bullshit.
Were you always in possession of it, or did he keep it properly stored until he took you shooting?
I had a shotgun and .223 in the back window gun rack of my truck through middle school and high school (started driving at 14 with a school permit) with shells and rounds in the glove box. Nothing was ever locked where I grew up either; homes, vehicles, businesses.
Granted I grew up in a town with under 1,000 people and the closest ‘city’ to us was an hour away and had a population of 25k.
That was forty years ago and I feel a lot differently about things and the world is a different place but when I grew up more students and teachers had guns in their vehicles at school than didn’t. Everyone hunted, I pulled off and shot a coyote in pack that was stalking around one of my teachers herd of cows on the way to school one winter. I took the coyote into class and gave it to him since I had him first period.
And people wonder why criminals in the US have so ready access to firearms. In some areas, just steal a truck, and get a shitload of material to commit crimes for free!
I totally get it. My dad is from a town like that, if not smaller. Place I’m from isn’t a lot bigger, but it definitely wasn’t like his. They probably still carry hunting rifles to school. They get like a week off for deer hunting season because they wouldn’t show anyways
That just gave me some deep seated nostalgia, I forgot how much I enjoyed that week off of school we’d get. I feel so out of place trying to get my sons raised up sometimes. My entire grade size was never over 37 and that was with five combined towns going to the same school. We live in a town of fifty thousand people in a different state and everything feels so big to me even though I’ve lived here nearly twenty years. Anytime I’ve stayed in a real city for more than a night or two my anxiety goes into overdrive, I don’t know how people do it.
I was in possession of it, but he kept the ammo “hidden” on top of a cabinet.
After they had been contacted by investigators over concerns the kid wanted to do a school shooting.
This is why red flag laws need to be a thing.
The buried lede-
The timeline the teen’s father provided to authorities would put the gun purchase months after authorities first contacted Gray and his family to investigate school shooting threats made online.
Never buy your adolescents guns parents, as a matter of fact, don’t let them have guns where you can’t see them
There are places where training your kids in an age appropriate manner is the right thing to do. But of course it’s the parent’s responsibility to do that correctly, supervise use, and remove any firearms if there are problems.
Sounds like accessory to murder to me.
Oh absolutely. Throw that fucker in jail. He’s more responsible than the kid.
Yeah, I’m wondering how many people failed that kid for him to end up in a place where he decided to throw away his life to lash out in a way that couldn’t be ignored or swept under a rug.
Ultimately, this is probably the root of the problem more than the access to guns are because a kid that wants to shoot up his school but can’t get a gun to do so is still a tragedy and could still turn deadly.
Edit: not that guns aren’t too easy to access in the US
Funny that, Colin Gray, father of Colt (the shooter) has been officially charged
2 counts of murder 2
4 counts of involuntary manslaughter
8 counts of cruelty to children
I wonder how they settled on 2 counts of murder. Maybe that implies they think 2 victims were targetted and 2 were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
It’s a quirk in Georgia’s law where cruelty to children and their death gets those charges upgraded to murder 2.
How quirky
It’s the perfect hunting rifle for when a herd of deer stampedes.
Lost a lot of good men out there in the deer stampede hunts
Or 30-50 feral hogs.
I’m waiting for someone to explain to me how an automatic gun/rifle is needed for hunting animals/deer.
AR-15’s are not automatic. Also, automatic firearms are already illegal for the majority of civilians.
See I know nothing about guns
To the automatic part, that’s what the bump stocks were about and why the banning. It helped to turn an assault rifle into acting like an automatic weapon by using recoil to bump the stock which the bounce made it rapidly tap the trigger finger and fire much faster.
That honestly sounds like a safety issue, if you can lose control of how many rounds you might fire in a direction
What’s wrong with legos. Nobody is ever killed with legos.
I’d rather die than step on one, though.
I have wanted to amputate my foot after stepping on one.
Multi-colored dark carpet is the best place to scatter a few handfuls, then sit back and watch.
Well we found Dr. Evil…
I mean, they are basically microplastic. Having said that, my kid loves em and I still buy them for him.
Lego has shifted (or is trying to shift) towards a more plant based, biodegradable plastic. They have to put a big effort because their entire product line is based on a material that has (rightfully so) negative connotations.
