Vance also seemed to agree when a podcast host suggested that having grandparents help raise children was a ‘weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman’
JD Vance agreed with the notion that raising grandchildren was “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female,” an unearthed 2020 podcast shows.
Vance also seemed to concur when the host suggested that having grandparents help raise children was a “weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.”
It’s the latest in comments from the Republican nominee for vice president about women and “traditional” roles that have drawn ire. Vance has faced intense criticism in recent weeks for previous sexist comments, including his remarks about “cat ladies.”
this shouldn’t be ok with more than %4 of the population, but here we are, with %40+ thinking it just fine
It’s a small and feeble mind that seeks the comforts of broad categorization.
He’s a man in eyeliner. He can categorize broads however he wants. /s
I bet you say that about all broad categorisations.
What’s with the weird incel language going on?
Even The Handmaid’s Tale didn’t constantly refer to women as “females”.
I know this is probably rhetorical, but there’s probably room for further discussion. Strong overlap in the two groups with their transphobic binary gender/biological sex beliefs that is used to reinforce the “female make baby” beliefs. Also, distancing language. Hard to say if there’s room for course correction. Incel results don’t seem to deter incel thinking.
I hate pretty much everything he says but I hope they keep him out there just saying the dumbest shit he can think of
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Does that mean if a white guy gets divorced and loses custody of his kids, he becomes a purposeless entity?
“That’s DIFFERENT”
Dude did you miss the part of your own sentence that said “white guy”?
This means he has a penis. And it is white. I don’t understand the question.
Well they plan to remove a woman’s ability to get a divorce, so if the white guy wants to keep his kids he just doesn’t divorce his wife. Problem solved! /s
It really implies that grandfathers are useless lol. Only grandmothers have purpose.
That’s why women live 10 years longer on average. God made it saw. Man dies, woman raises grandkids then dies. /s
Women are for reproduction use only. Men can fuck couches and dress up like women but their place is out in the world. Doing the tough jobs like I did when I was a US Marine, risking my life to write press releases and enjoy it in the rear, hahaha, that’s what she said. I am not weird, you’re weird. When a woman can no longer produce babies and her womb has dried up she should devote her time to raising the children of her husband’s young new baby machi…I mean grandchildren. In conclusion, Donny said I could say the n-word any time I want if he gets elected and he would also buy me a nice new sexy suede couch and he promised not to deport my brown wife and our Italian-level white children." - James David “My Preferred Name Is JD” Vance
Well, you certainly live up to your username! Damn! Tell em how you really feel!
I thought his name was Jorkin Depeanus
Goddamn, he’s such a creepy weirdo.
If you don’t like women you’re gay
It’s only gay if the balls touch and you forget “no homo”
I love Vance for quotes like this.
More please - we still have a few weeks until November for him to continue sticking his foot in his mouth.
raising grandchildren was “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female"
You can’t say he isn’t charming.
What, you don’t talk about women like you’re in a nature documentary?
“Why didn’t she just keep her job, give us part of the wages to pay somebody else to do it?” he asked. “That is the thing that the hyper-liberalized economics wants you to do. The economic logic of always prioritizing paid wage labor over other forms of contributing to a society is to me … a consequence of a sort of fundamental liberalism that is ultimately gonna unwind and collapse upon itself.”
“It’s the abandonment of a sort of Aristotelian virtue politics for a hyper-market-oriented way of thinking about what’s good and what’s desirable,” he added. “If people are paying for it and it contributes to GDP and it makes the economic consumption numbers rise, then it’s good, and if it doesn’t, it’s bad … that’s sort of the root of our political problem.”
It’s really funny when conservatives are like “See the problem with Wokeness is <describes capitalism>”
If the press had any balls, they’d ask Vance about infertile women. But they never do.
My guess is that his answer would be any combination of:
- they’re useless and worthless
- they’re cumdumps
- they’re vectors for spreading SDTs
I suspect his answer would be the standard conservative Christian response that they should be foster or adoptive parents.
But what if they’re also not Christians? Because apparently that’s also a problem they have.
https://apnews.com/article/religion-lawsuits-tennessee-nashville-58900a55eb9344d4a51143325fa609c3
To be fair, this is a legitimate scientific hypothesis (the Grandmother Hypothesis) that attempts to explain why human females, unlike almost every other species, have a lifespan that outlasts their reproductive cycle. It’s just hypothesis, and even if it’s correct, drawing conclusions about women’s role in modern society based on a trait we developed before agriculture is just stupid, but what he’s saying isn’t as crazy as the headline is implying.
evolutionary biology doesn’t dictate my purpose as a man, nor should it dictate the purpose of a woman.
we’re not raping and murder machines and they’re not child rearing machines.
there’s no “to be fair”
evolutionary biology doesn’t dictate my purpose as a man, nor should it dictate the purpose of a woman.
Maybe you should have read all the way to my second sentence, where I made that exact point.
I did, and I’m just adding to it to say that there’s no reason to try to be charitable here.
There absolutely is. Vance is describing how his mother-in-law took a sabbatical to help with their first child, and this specific interaction becomes the focus of the article:
“That’s the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female in theory,” Weinstein said at the time.
“Yes,” Vance agreed.
That’s…mostly correct. He should has said, “hypothesis,” instead of, “theory,” and it’s certainly oversimplification, but otherwise, that’s a correct assessment of the Grandmother Hypothesis.
Now, it’s fucking weird to apply that hypothesis to modern society. It’s very strange how Vance can only analyze his mother-in-laws actions through the lens of traditional family values vs. free market capitalism. It’s also pretty telling that Vance ignores the racist comment the interviewer makes when he calls this, “a weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.” But the article glossed over those comments and goes out of its way to make the, “postmenopausal women,” statement sound crazy, without even acknowledging the Grandmother Hypothesis.
It’d be like if Vance said, “You know, if multiverse theory is correct, there may be an Earth where couches have vaginas,” and I wrote an article about how Vance has this crazy belief that there’s more than one Earth. That’s actually not that crazy, and it really shouldn’t be the focus.
That’s fair, I don’t think the nuance really changes how inappropriate his comments are (nor do you) but perhaps I was too harsh to say there’s no need to be charitable.
He’s a scumbag regardless, and I could understand not confronting the other person in the moment but afaik he hasn’t distanced himself from these comments since, but you weren’t making excuses for him as my reaction implied.
“It takes a village”
The single family unit isolated from outside help, whether it be community or extended family, while raising children is a pretty modern phenomenon.
Yeah, pretty much nothing in our biology has prepared us for late stage capitalism.
Right wing randos from the middle of nowhere, I get why they get pulled down the rabbit hole.
Elon Musk, is a hyper online need and he is constantly surrounded by yes men. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
Donald Trump is a Fox News grandpa who surrounds himself with the hard right because they support him unconditionally. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
But JD Vance is arguably the furthest down the rabbit hole of all of them, and I don’t get why.
Theoretically he’s the senator for a whole state who voted for Obama twice. His day job is in thr Democrat-controlled Senate, if he wants to get anything done he needs to work with Democrats. How is he such a true believer in this stuff?!?
Vance used to be more of a center left guy until he got into politics to grift his way to VP. Read anything about him and you can easily see who he is pandering to.