No one “worries” about seeing it. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.
Did you know the explaining the thing doesn’t mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn’t “whining” about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It’s important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don’t like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that’s all you’re doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let’s consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything to do with, New York, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “New York is the greatest city in the world!” or the rest of their standard “Ayyyy, NYC!” New Yorker talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the city. It’s exhausting and pointless.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in the Linus Tech Tips Forum, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “Linux is better than Windows” or the rest of their standard “Arch is the only distro worth using” Linux talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the forum. It’s exhausting and pointless.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It’s just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn’t actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions,
And the “19 and edgy” thing? Come on. You’re whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
are allowed to speak
No, y’all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I’ve repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it’s communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can’t even understand that. Y’all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the “right” ideas in the world and your entire identity. You’re just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get “it’s capitalism’s fault!!1!” anywhere. It’s not a unique or special take. That doesn’t 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism’s fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you
Which is why the previous two “tankie” instances have been defederated. And why, once centrists have their way and .ml is defederated, they’re going to pick another instance to designate the “tankie” instance.
You can block the left you don’t want to listen to. Instead, you whine about them because you want them silenced.
My friend, I will say yet again, it’s not about blocking “The Left.” It’s that you can’t talk to other humans about anything at all and not be so abrasive and focused on making anything at all an attack on your beliefs that no one cares about that people don’t invite you over to their place to hang out anymore.
If I wanted this from social media, I would go back on facebook.
Don’t you understand how mypoic a view that it? How dependent it is on you thinking you have an absolute lockdown on ALL ideas there can be, and that anyone who isn’t you is against you? Only a fool would think that everything is split in perfect dualism and that you’re the only one that’s right.
It’s basically the same thing I see from super evangelical family members. If it’s not something they like, it’s “from Satan.” Is that really a behavior you’re trying to emulate? That level of absolutism and rigidity of thought?
FFS, both Lenin and Marx warned you about the dangers of rigid thinking. And here you are, doing exactly that! You’re not even a good Marxist!
You’re taking everything to absurd extremes and assuming I’m something that’s convenient for your weak argument. People posting memes like this are pushing for the lockdown of ideas.
Speaking of taking it to extremes, y’all (or maybe 1 person with 5 accounts, it’s hard to tell) so far in this thread people have reacted to saying “yeah, they’re annoying about how they interact with other people” as: trying to put ideas on lockdown, wanting to silence anyone “left of me,” that I’m actively supporting all existing political structures and capitalism, and then a ton of personal attacks. Because I explained the joke to someone else.
I especially loved that my “hopes are also profoundly stupid.” Ah yes, a response that is classy, high-brow, and I’m fairly sure it’s a direct quote from Lenin at the Zimmerwald Conference (since I have to tell you all, apparently, that was sarcasm).
Seriously, look around here. Y’all are not fun to talk to in general about anything because of this right here. And when someone says it out loud, you happily confirm you’re not fun to talk to and do the thing that the meme is about.
This isn’t about your ideas, it’s about how abrasive and annoying you are to interact with. Look at how many times I’ve had to repeat that, and every time you all immediately jump to “yOu’Re sIlEnCiNg iDeAs!” No, y’all are bad at human-to-human interaction. Without enough self-reflection to even pause and see that’s what was happening from the start.
You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
lmao. Not sure what’s funnier here, that you apparently don’t exist according to your comment, or that it’s basically “Nuh-UH, YOU’RE STUPID!”
lol @ “independent thinker”
Speaking of which, where exactly did I defend anything? Quote the specific text.
Here, I’ll help. I said:
No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism,
Including me.
I explained how someone else might arrive at the place where the original meme was made. People on .ml instances are not some fully complete and perfect opposite pole of the Western world. Y’all have some opinions, and that’s not even the problem. You’re super annoying with how you try and force them on people.
Like how you’re literally lying and angry about the fact that not everyone likes how you communicate. Your ideas aren’t the problem, how you talk about them is the problem.
Fun fact: Explaining the biology of a seagull to someone doesn’t make me a seagull. If I ask you to explain how a microwave works, shall you become a microwave?
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
Who’s talking about blindly criticizing everything China does? It’s just sickening to listen to these people glorifying China as if they do everything right. It’s just plain ridiculous.
Patriot? You’re implying I’m from the USA? I live in Germany and have never understood the concept of patriotism, other than it being propaganda for the right. And fuck the right. What kind of a dumbfuck argument are you even trying to make? This just proves that lemmy.ml is filled with lunatics.
No one “worries” about seeing it. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.
Edit: OOOh, seems like I struck a nerve, eh?
Then block them and quit whining that people don’t like exploitation as much as you.
Did you know the explaining the thing doesn’t mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn’t “whining” about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It’s important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don’t like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that’s all you’re doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let’s consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It’s just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn’t actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
And the “19 and edgy” thing? Come on. You’re whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
No, y’all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I’ve repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it’s communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can’t even understand that. Y’all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the “right” ideas in the world and your entire identity. You’re just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get “it’s capitalism’s fault!!1!” anywhere. It’s not a unique or special take. That doesn’t 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism’s fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
Which is why the previous two “tankie” instances have been defederated. And why, once centrists have their way and .ml is defederated, they’re going to pick another instance to designate the “tankie” instance.
You can block the left you don’t want to listen to. Instead, you whine about them because you want them silenced.
My friend, I will say yet again, it’s not about blocking “The Left.” It’s that you can’t talk to other humans about anything at all and not be so abrasive and focused on making anything at all an attack on your beliefs that no one cares about that people don’t invite you over to their place to hang out anymore.
If I wanted this from social media, I would go back on facebook.
capitalism causes all problems in the universe
It’s well known that black holes use Hawking radiation as a currency and hire quasars to do menial labor.
I’m gonna make this into a poster or smthing, I love it, almost snorted my tea from laughter.
Please do, my words are free to all to use.
Don’t you just love when they tell on themselves?
When people post comments like yours or memes like the above it really comes off as defending capitalism and the status quo…
Don’t you understand how mypoic a view that it? How dependent it is on you thinking you have an absolute lockdown on ALL ideas there can be, and that anyone who isn’t you is against you? Only a fool would think that everything is split in perfect dualism and that you’re the only one that’s right.
It’s basically the same thing I see from super evangelical family members. If it’s not something they like, it’s “from Satan.” Is that really a behavior you’re trying to emulate? That level of absolutism and rigidity of thought?
FFS, both Lenin and Marx warned you about the dangers of rigid thinking. And here you are, doing exactly that! You’re not even a good Marxist!
You’re taking everything to absurd extremes and assuming I’m something that’s convenient for your weak argument. People posting memes like this are pushing for the lockdown of ideas.
Speaking of taking it to extremes, y’all (or maybe 1 person with 5 accounts, it’s hard to tell) so far in this thread people have reacted to saying “yeah, they’re annoying about how they interact with other people” as: trying to put ideas on lockdown, wanting to silence anyone “left of me,” that I’m actively supporting all existing political structures and capitalism, and then a ton of personal attacks. Because I explained the joke to someone else.
I especially loved that my “hopes are also profoundly stupid.” Ah yes, a response that is classy, high-brow, and I’m fairly sure it’s a direct quote from Lenin at the Zimmerwald Conference (since I have to tell you all, apparently, that was sarcasm).
Seriously, look around here. Y’all are not fun to talk to in general about anything because of this right here. And when someone says it out loud, you happily confirm you’re not fun to talk to and do the thing that the meme is about.
This isn’t about your ideas, it’s about how abrasive and annoying you are to interact with. Look at how many times I’ve had to repeat that, and every time you all immediately jump to “yOu’Re sIlEnCiNg iDeAs!” No, y’all are bad at human-to-human interaction. Without enough self-reflection to even pause and see that’s what was happening from the start.
You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
lmao. Not sure what’s funnier here, that you apparently don’t exist according to your comment, or that it’s basically “Nuh-UH, YOU’RE STUPID!”
Speaking of which, where exactly did I defend anything? Quote the specific text.
Here, I’ll help. I said:
Including me.
I explained how someone else might arrive at the place where the original meme was made. People on .ml instances are not some fully complete and perfect opposite pole of the Western world. Y’all have some opinions, and that’s not even the problem. You’re super annoying with how you try and force them on people.
Like how you’re literally lying and angry about the fact that not everyone likes how you communicate. Your ideas aren’t the problem, how you talk about them is the problem.
Fun fact: Explaining the biology of a seagull to someone doesn’t make me a seagull. If I ask you to explain how a microwave works, shall you become a microwave?
Goddamn you’re dumb
That’s the highest form of endorsement I could have hoped for ;)
Your hopes are also profoundly stupid
The dominant economic and political system is mixed and always has been.
Lol no, it’s currently capitalism
What is capitalism?
As we know, socialism is when the government does stuff, and the government does some stuff, that means its a mix of capitalism and socialism.
Everyone paying for the police that protect the institution of capital is an example of socialism.
-libs, probably
capitalism is when rich people exist then?
It’s not about the economic system, it’s the constant china glazing
It absolutely is about the economic system, and the “china glazing” is a direct response to US propaganda
Cringe
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
You can be anti-capitalist without sucking China’s scrotum.
You can also critically support China’s socialist and anti-imperialist position while simultaneously criticizing the mistakes they’ve made.
However, blind critique of China and saying everything they do is authoritarian explicitly helps capitalism and hurts socialism.
Who’s talking about blindly criticizing everything China does? It’s just sickening to listen to these people glorifying China as if they do everything right. It’s just plain ridiculous.
I’d say you can be anti-china without being homophobic/misogynistic but I don’t actually believe you’re capable lol, cry about it patriot
Patriot? You’re implying I’m from the USA? I live in Germany and have never understood the concept of patriotism, other than it being propaganda for the right. And fuck the right. What kind of a dumbfuck argument are you even trying to make? This just proves that lemmy.ml is filled with lunatics.
ah, classic ml. Genocide deniers
You going to start whining about “white genocide” in South Africa next?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/asia/uyghurs-muslim-countries-china-intl https://www.memri.org/tv/saudi-palestinian-ambassadors-china-clean-bill-health-xinjiang-knows-best-internal-affairs-liberal-democracies-not-for-everyone https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/muslim-countries-joined-china-in-defending-its-cultural-genocide-of-uighurs-arent-they-ashamed/2019/07/20/0a7d62b4-aa3f-11e9-86dd-d7f0e60391e9_story.html https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2021/08/08/2003762216 So the story is that the US and our allies, who have spent decades villifying imprisoning and killing muslims, and who have repeatedly verifiably lied about similar human rights abuses to justify our foreign policy before, are the only ones who can be trusted to tell the truth about the conditions for muslims who just happen to be living in the country which is our single greatest global rival politically and economically, about whom we have an extremely obvious foreign policy motive for lying, but we’re definitely telling the truth this time and everyone else is lying? Every muslim majority nation on earth is apparently only supporting China because they’re either corrupt or too terrified to oppose them, despite the fact that the US has been completely unable to get similar results for Israel with our best efforts? And despite having the most advanced surveillance technology on earth, despite having satellites that can take high resolution pictures of any patch of dirt on earth and an unmatched intelligence network, the US has somehow been unable to obtain any incontrovertible physical evidence of this supposed genocide for years? And you believe that?