Did you know the explaining the thing doesn’t mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn’t “whining” about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It’s important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don’t like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that’s all you’re doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let’s consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything to do with, New York, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “New York is the greatest city in the world!” or the rest of their standard “Ayyyy, NYC!” New Yorker talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the city. It’s exhausting and pointless.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in the Linus Tech Tips Forum, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “Linux is better than Windows” or the rest of their standard “Arch is the only distro worth using” Linux talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the forum. It’s exhausting and pointless.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It’s just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn’t actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions,
And the “19 and edgy” thing? Come on. You’re whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
are allowed to speak
No, y’all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I’ve repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it’s communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can’t even understand that. Y’all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the “right” ideas in the world and your entire identity. You’re just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get “it’s capitalism’s fault!!1!” anywhere. It’s not a unique or special take. That doesn’t 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism’s fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you
Which is why the previous two “tankie” instances have been defederated. And why, once centrists have their way and .ml is defederated, they’re going to pick another instance to designate the “tankie” instance.
You can block the left you don’t want to listen to. Instead, you whine about them because you want them silenced.
My friend, I will say yet again, it’s not about blocking “The Left.” It’s that you can’t talk to other humans about anything at all and not be so abrasive and focused on making anything at all an attack on your beliefs that no one cares about that people don’t invite you over to their place to hang out anymore.
If I wanted this from social media, I would go back on facebook.
A statement made with zero evidence to support it. Do you even understand that if we’re communicating with each other, you and your ideas are not “blocked”? FFS, we probably have quite a bit on common, and because you have zero actual information you invent enemies to meet your confirmation biases. Plus, this is Lemmy, there is no force here.
Look, you subscribe to an ideology, which is fine, and you and the .ml crowd seem to hold an extreme version of that ideology. The ideology itself doesn’t even matter, it’s that people holding extreme viewpoints are obsessive about them. Obsessive behavior does not make it easy to have a normal conversation about anything. Here’s me taking the same comment and changing only the ideology and it’s perfectly applicable the same way.
No one “worries” about seeing religious speech. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a Christian-leaning instance, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “All things are possible through Christ!” or the rest of their standard “I just converted and this is deep” zealot talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend Satan, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.
I can do this 50 times over, talking about MAGA, about any religion, about the CCP, about those labubu dolls, about stoners smoking weed, about finance bros and stock trades, about crypto bros and BTC, etc.
And while I understand there are numerous studies that say nothing will ever change your mind and I am wasting my time, I will tell you that if you really worry about “The Left” getting a fair shake, you have to realize that other than the Democratic party, people who do a bad job communicating what “The Left” does means or wants do more help to the fascists on the right by seeming unable to operate like a reasonable human, straight up lying when confronted about being bad communicators, and forcing yourself to the fringes of even left-leaning Lemmy because you can’t keep your shit together. It’s actually quite sad how people like you have done more to undermine anyone or anything left of center by being basketcases. You enable fascists every day. Look at your post history! It is the stuff they screenshot and post about how they’re stable and anyone on the left is nuts.
Anyway, despite the fact that we likely have more in common than not, you’d rather invent lies to try and get some really lazy insults. Fine, fracture anyone left of the fascists. You already helped put us where we are, why not keep going?
Did you know the explaining the thing doesn’t mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn’t “whining” about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It’s important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don’t like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that’s all you’re doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let’s consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It’s just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn’t actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
And the “19 and edgy” thing? Come on. You’re whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
No, y’all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I’ve repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it’s communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can’t even understand that. Y’all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the “right” ideas in the world and your entire identity. You’re just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get “it’s capitalism’s fault!!1!” anywhere. It’s not a unique or special take. That doesn’t 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism’s fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
Which is why the previous two “tankie” instances have been defederated. And why, once centrists have their way and .ml is defederated, they’re going to pick another instance to designate the “tankie” instance.
You can block the left you don’t want to listen to. Instead, you whine about them because you want them silenced.
My friend, I will say yet again, it’s not about blocking “The Left.” It’s that you can’t talk to other humans about anything at all and not be so abrasive and focused on making anything at all an attack on your beliefs that no one cares about that people don’t invite you over to their place to hang out anymore.
If I wanted this from social media, I would go back on facebook.
I know. If you wanted to block the left, you would have done so. You want them silenced by force. It’s why you keep whining.
Facebook is certainly more in alignment with your views. And just as eager to remove ideas you don’t want anyone to be allowed to hear.
A statement made with zero evidence to support it. Do you even understand that if we’re communicating with each other, you and your ideas are not “blocked”? FFS, we probably have quite a bit on common, and because you have zero actual information you invent enemies to meet your confirmation biases. Plus, this is Lemmy, there is no force here.
Look, you subscribe to an ideology, which is fine, and you and the .ml crowd seem to hold an extreme version of that ideology. The ideology itself doesn’t even matter, it’s that people holding extreme viewpoints are obsessive about them. Obsessive behavior does not make it easy to have a normal conversation about anything. Here’s me taking the same comment and changing only the ideology and it’s perfectly applicable the same way.
I can do this 50 times over, talking about MAGA, about any religion, about the CCP, about those labubu dolls, about stoners smoking weed, about finance bros and stock trades, about crypto bros and BTC, etc.
And while I understand there are numerous studies that say nothing will ever change your mind and I am wasting my time, I will tell you that if you really worry about “The Left” getting a fair shake, you have to realize that other than the Democratic party, people who do a bad job communicating what “The Left” does means or wants do more help to the fascists on the right by seeming unable to operate like a reasonable human, straight up lying when confronted about being bad communicators, and forcing yourself to the fringes of even left-leaning Lemmy because you can’t keep your shit together. It’s actually quite sad how people like you have done more to undermine anyone or anything left of center by being basketcases. You enable fascists every day. Look at your post history! It is the stuff they screenshot and post about how they’re stable and anyone on the left is nuts.
Anyway, despite the fact that we likely have more in common than not, you’d rather invent lies to try and get some really lazy insults. Fine, fracture anyone left of the fascists. You already helped put us where we are, why not keep going?