• Snapz@lemmy.world
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    Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,

    “So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward…”


    • how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.

    • the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything

    • his first and only focus was his shoes?

    • a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?

    • secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let’s him vamp and pose

    • straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling

    • yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?

    • yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).

    • his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)

    • this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.

    • watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?

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    This was the worst possible outcome. Unless someone intends on finishing the job it may as well be his election now.

    He’ll spend the rest of the election telling people how strong he is, how Biden could not have survived and he’ll use the attack to validate all his claims of Democrat corruption/Republican righteousness.

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    Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of “ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!”

    I’m more pissed at how they missed the big orange fucker. Aim better next time.

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    God damn. Is it fake? The fist pump reaction was cool, a bit way too cool since I seriously doubt he’d genuinely act like that

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    It’s very sad to see people condoning this. I’m far from a Trump supporter, but this is unacceptable. If this was Biden being shot at, you’d all be saying “typical right wing, gun-toting nutjobs.”

    Plus what you fail to understand is that Trump being shot at is just further securing his presidency, and anyone who was previously on the fence will now be more inclined to vote for the person who was “shot at for his beliefs.”

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    So 3 shots fired (rest were more rapid, so looked like SS responding), 2 people died, only trump get out of it without any major issue. A grazed ear implies that he survived by mere centimeters.

    Then when going to the car he is mouthing “fight, fight, fight”. I’m sorry, but this is a very odd reaction for somebody that nearly died today.

    He was trying to get people rioting on J6 (but that while succeeded, fortunately got stopped), he tried people to riot when he had criminal trial (didn’t work at all), and now in the heat of the moment, he thought that was perfect time to try it again?

    For sake of everyone I hope this will also be unsuccessful. I’m glad Democrats quickly condemned this (this is something we quite missed in 2017-2020 when similar events happened).

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    It seem like he was hit. Blood was on his right ear in one shot. Unclear of that’s because he was hit there or if he touched it after touching something else bloody.

    He was escorted away on foot with secret service.

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      It looks like it’s coming both from his ear and his mouth. I’m guessing the mouth part is from being tackled by the Secret Service.

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        I wonder whether that agent was just waiting for his chance to clock him good

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        Yeah this is not going to result in anything good. I keep thinking about what’s happened after Robert Fico got shot, basically how it’s being used as a confirmation of everything bad his supporters believe about his opponents and as a justification for further sliding into authoritarianism

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          Yeah, this is my real fear with all of this. Trump is definitely going to feed on his new victimhood to further rally his supporters and make them more extreme.

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        What happens next was going to happen eventually anyways. It’s been too late for a long time.

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          I’m finding it so bizarre to witness this mass cognitive dissonance where people can make the connection to Hitler’s rise to power, but not to the heroic act so many claim they would perform themselves if they had a time machine…

          It’s almost like they need a few million marginalised people to die first, just to be sure

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        Yep.

        I fully expect at least several “retaliatory” attacks against democrats in the next week by rabid MAGAts.

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          So at the end there…

          expressing their feelings about news media? Unless there’s someone with a blue hat somewhere behind the camera (or they were leading the perp away back there). All speculation here to be clear, not that it’s too critical of an issue in the larger scheme of the incident.

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          I wouldnt either. What better way to come back from the epstein document release detailing his pedophilia, and the massive outrage against 2025?

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          Very unlikely, it’s an easy intuitive thing to think when emotions are high, and there is so much at stake with the election and division so high, that emotions are high as well.

          Having a shooter miss you on purpose is something that is extremely risky, not easy to stage, and the US has enough armed people with emotions boiling over and little to lose. It is very much the overwhelmingly more likely scenario.

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            Fire blanks and give Trump an f/x blood capsule to slap on his ear when he hears the cue.

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              At this point, we know very little, but with what we do know at the moment - for this, you’d need:

              • someone willing to be taken out as the shooter, willing to or being tricked into shooting blanks, or an extremely elaborate plan to switch in a body (you also have to acquire and prepare somewhere) in front of witnesses and potential cameras
              • someone without blanks firing to explain the other bystanders dead from bullets
              • complete control over the subsequent investigation, to make sure no one looks into it properly, which would make all the people involved in the know

              It is still an extremely, extremely unlikely scenario

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              Or just use a razor and actually cut your ear. I’d say someone took their shot and missed. He happened to turn his head at the last moment, or the shot would have made a solid hit.

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            Where did the other shots go? Security should have seen something. Dude is a known coward. There’s no way if it was real he would have reacted that way.

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              The reports I am hearing say that at least two people besides the shooter are dead, which probably is where (some of) the other bullets went. Dude is a coward, but also a narcissist, I assume he noticed that the Secret Service had already killed the shooter, so immediately switched into “I am invincible” mode.

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                I have my doubts that anyone was harmed. I’ll stand corrected, it this just screams fake to me.

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                  Again, I understand it as an intuitive reaction, but the world is a lot more chaotic than that, and huge conspiracies coordinated well like that are super, super rare. Waiting and being willing to adjust your position is a good thing to do right now. With more stuff coming out, the situation will become more clear.

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                  The shots are apparently real, but I wouldn’t put it past them to sacrifice a few of his supporters and just use fake blood on him.

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          Definitely seems staged.

          Especially his “Wait wait wait!” And then his fist pumps. As if he almost forgot what they had planned.

          Also that many shots were fired and NOBODY was hit? 🤣 Trump is HUGE.

          Staged.

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              The biggest. People are always telling him just how big of pussy he is. Maybe the greatest pussy of all time.

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              I really hate the guy but if you’ve never had a near-death experience you wouldn’t understand that your logic is a bit weird in the moment. it takes more than a couple of moments for your brain to catch up with reality. his shoes are special thick lift shoes to make him seem way taller because he’s extremely vain. if he fell out of his awkward tall shoes when he ducked, he probably would have been preoccupied in the moment with not appearing short and weak (his true form) until the reality caught up to him. I don’t doubt at all that some sycophantic pr stooge was yelling into his earpiece to “look triumphant, look triumphant!!” when he was getting back up though.

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              I wouldn’t be surprised that it was a collateral damage when SS was trying to kill the shooter.

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            CNN speculated that lots of those shots were the Secret Service returning fire. They are reporting on TV that you can hear them saying “Shooter down” and that it was then safe to move Trump. I couldn’t hear that, but someone on TV said they could hear that in the chatter.

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      It could easily be blood from falling to the ground or even getting jumped on by the secret service, old people bleed easily.

      I’d be amazed if that was blood from a gunshot, if it was he missed dying by literally an inch.

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        You can see him grab his ear pretty clearly when it all starts, he got hit by something.

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          Yeah but on the pics I saw his ear looked fine, it had blood on it, but still totally normal. I guess it might have been blood from someone nearby that hit him? If rumors are true someone got shot in the head, that tends to splatter some blood.

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            I’m leaning towards fake and staged, honestly. No article says a shooter was seen/killed/shot/apprehended/existed. Just that there were shots. When was the last time that happened with a real shooter? And nothing could be better for Trump’s campaign than to be almost assassinated.

            But now the Yall’qaeda are going to go into overdrive and I fear for what they do in their bloodlust…

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        It could have been a round that basically took apart his right ear, or took a chunk out of it.

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      The shooter is dead? Did someone just say this on live TV? Who?

      Source pleaaaase.

      Only bystander I’ve heard about being hit is Wolf interviewing a guy who says he saw a General with a gunshot wound to the head.

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    Why are people screaming and afraid? Guns are a part of society in America. Unless… they’re dangerous…

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      The secret service didn’t let anyone but the shooter have a gun, so everyone’s feeling awkward

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      Unfortunately, despite decades of suffering, education, and patience, a fascist racist felon is successfully running for President, again. His followers only speak the language of violence. If they show up on my doorstep we’ll have a conversation they can understand.

      Logistics strikes and the threat of what I may rationalize in the future are your only leverage.

      That’s why you can have my firearms when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

      Best of luck, a reasonable radical