All the events of the past month since the killing of Charlie Kirk—the transformation of a fascist provocateur into a martyr of the MAGA movement, the mobilization of the National Guard against the so-called “enemy within,” and the open preparations to invoke the Insurrection Act—have demonstrated beyond any doubt that what is underway is a systematic conspiracy by the Trump administration to establish a dictatorship. Blinders are falling from people’s eyes. More and more Americans are saying, “I don’t recognize this country anymore.” The Land of Lincoln is being transformed by Trump and his arrogant satraps into the land of a would-be Führer.

This conspiracy entered a new and chilling stage on Wednesday, when President Trump convened a meeting in the White House that was presented as a “roundtable on antifa.” It was, in fact, a gathering of extreme right-wing political maniacs: neo-Nazis, Christian nationalists, racists, and Hitler lovers. They were assembled by Trump in what was clearly intended as a signal for all-out war against political opposition. An atmosphere of menace and imminent violence prevailed throughout the entire “discussion.”

Nothing like this has ever occurred in the history of the United States. The White House has been transformed into the headquarters of a conspiracy to legitimize fascism, brand anti-fascism as “terrorism,” and mobilize the repressive machinery of the state against the population.

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    For years it’s been common knowledge amongst everyone that a poor, hungry working class will turn to fascism for security and bread. Wild to actually see it happen though. Best of luck to Americans, I hope your country dies though.

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      Just watch everyone here not be moved at all by what you’re saying but instead loudly insist that they are doing everything they possibly can (short of anything that requires them to risk discomfort)!

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        What are you doing? Don’t say protesting or “organizing” because that’s still nothing

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          and that is a bullshit statement as it very much is something. It makes those actually doing nothing to feel better about themselves to call it nothing but it is what will determine our future as it has in the past.

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            You can look around and see that protesting is not effective anymore. Can you name a single measurable gain against fascism in 2025 as a direct result of protesting?

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              sure. the court rulings that came directly from actions that came about from protests are a measurable gain. The push had to be there for the check to happen.

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                  illinois one restricting national guard deployments. If you watch the preceding most of the evidence is around ice actions around protests. It also restricts actions they can take and that they need to respect press which is also defined.

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        Oh thank god. I’m sure some people walking around with signs will make them realize their mistake and restore democracy.

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          I love these comments. You know that there’s 2x as many guns in America as there are people right? Most of these protestors own guns. It’s just protesters won’t be the ones to start the violence.

          But when it does start, they will certainly be the ones to finish it. We have the second Amendment for this reason, and using it too soon to placate those outside our country is stupid. Be patient. America will solve its own fascist problem the way it solved it before.

          How about supporting them until that happens instead of getting mad peaceful protestors are trying to remain peaceful as long as they can. Even if they aren’t using them, they still have guns. So just a matter of time before they do start using them. Kirk, two attempts on Trump, and two dead CEO’s so far.

          There’s a line that will be crossed eventually. Until then, protesting is the best way to show the country how much of us are sick of this shit. The last Kings protest was the 3rd largest in American history. And when it comes to guerrilla warfare, the thing you’re championing, getting an idea of what your numbers are before engaging the enemy is basic strategy. Don’t look at it as a protest, look at it as a show of force of how many Americans want to use their guns to defend against Tyranny.

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            Why do Americans always jump to guns? Stop watching Hollywood movies. This is why your society is so ill. Guns are not the next step after words and signs.

            The next step is actual meaningful protest. Organize, resist, disobey, strike, block society from functioning and shut things down until you get results. Nothing works unless the people allow it to work. Every day you go to work, shop, allow the gears of government to continue crushing the people is a day you enable them to do what they’re doing. They only have the power you give them. You have all the power. Shut. It. Down.

            There are multiple countries right now changing things this way. France is the one usually mentioned for it, but right now Spain, Italy, Greece are all striking for various causes.

            This is how change is actually started. The rest of the world gets it.

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              Wait so first you shit on a commenter for protesting, then shit on a commenter for bringing up guns and not advocating for protesting enough- so which is it? Or are you always this miserable?

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              I don’t disagree. At all. But seeing how violent our government is treating us, the moment for the collective action you’re talking about has passed. Unfortunately that leaves guns, which admittedly, is stupid we have. But we literally have them for this very reason: to protect against tyranny. And seeing as the literal definition of that is happening in our government, I feel the time we had to try actual meaningful civil disobedience is long past. What you don’t understand is that any disobedience is basically now seen as terrorism. So if we’re going to be arrested as terrorists and disappeared with no due process then there’s no room left to be just civily disobedient.

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        That’s a protest. That’s doing nothing. What happened since the last one? Nothing. Thinking this one will somehow be different is absurd. These people are calling our bluff—and winning.

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          spoken like someone who has not been coming out. The crowds are increasing even in the local small ones. Its up to us. There is a number that cannot be ignored. The country needs people to run they cannot kill and arrest everyone who is not police or military.

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            There is a number that cannot be ignored

            That’s what they’re doing. Ignoring it. The only thing that gets them upset is when one of theirs dies.

            arrest everyone

            No, not yet… but I’m guessing by the end of December they start grabbing groups of protesters

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          Happy to hear your thoughts on what us lemmings should do, rather than just laments about the lack of action (which is lamentable)

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            OK, it’s easy to say go do Something and not offer ideas. One idea that I have been thinking about is there is a very large concrete wall with great visibility from the road. It is in a position that is dark at night and I could very easily paint it. Of course, it would get painted over eventually, but if I painted that a certain high ranking political figure should be killed, That might send a message to other people who feel the same or are on the fence that it’s OK to feel that way because they aren’t alone.

            Some people would choose to paint a more friendly message… But I don’t think we can be friendly with fascism… But that’s just me.

            I don’t know where you are and what kind of things you have access to, So that makes it hard to suggest actions. Also, it depends on how much of a crime you’re willing to commit. Misdemeanors only or are you willing to do a light felony?

            Coming up pretty soon simply saying the word fascism will end you in jail for treason, so how do you feel about saying the word fascism?

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              So go do that? Heck, send me pics of the mural and receipts for the paint and I’ll pay you back.

              Otherwise, aren’t you just doing the same thing on here that you’re getting mad about?

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      Do you have a pocket army capable of changing things by force? Can you provide universal health and child care? Can you guarantee everyone has food on their table?

      No? Then be patient, organize, and join mass protests to make them afraid of us.

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        Patience ends in death. I know that you want to remain optimistic, but if we don’t fight now – regardless of our availability – Then we are all absolutely fucked. I’m guessing you don’t understand how fucked absolutely fucked is because you have never been absolutely fucked. The fucking… Is absolute.

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          I mean, I’m pretty sure most people who agree that fascism is taking over the country know the consequences…

          Most people just also understand what usually happens to the first wave of resistance while fascist still hold the reigns of power. What are you doing to stop this?

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              Ahh yes, minor amounts of property damage…the true sign of a revolutionary.

              Unfortunately organized violence is likely the only answer to fascism, and history shows that anyone part of the first waves of organized violence are most likely won’t be around to see the conclusion.

              It’s completely understandable to be hesitant to throw your life away for a cause that the vast majority do not believe in.

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                It’s more than you’re doing. If we all did a little something, we would have a lot of something.

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                  I volunteer as a first responder for protest, and volunteer as a healthcare provider for an organization that helps house refuge and asylum seekers…but I guess random property damage is probably more helpful.