I stand with Palestine, and the rare spaces our public can spend time and educate themselves. Genocide is depressing. Hurting books makes me sad.
Source: Portland State in midst of expensive, ‘marathon’ race to repair damaged library before fall classes begin
PS: we appreciate the smartass answers as well for much-needed comic relief
Portland. Yeah that tracks.
The funny thing is there’s a bunch of Portlands, but it’s always that particular one.
Feels like a Zionist attempt at framing anti-genociders as childish and misguided.
Right? I’m too jaded. Portland anarchists are kinda cringe sometimes, that seems maybe more plausible than a Jewish street gang false flagging it.
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This thread has enlightened me on how biased and irrational lemmy is (more than usual). So far you guys have claimed it’s:
- false flag operators
- valid because the college “supports” Israel
- just dumb teenagers that don’t really care about the cause and just wanna destroy property
- okay to deface “private” stuff like bank walls but not books for a “private” library?
- really dumb people that can’t possibly be on your side
- people that just want to destroy
- somewhat justified because it brought attention to the most talked about issue? 🤣
- “a joy of punching down on people/institutions I guess?” that’s a direct quote, holy shit 😂
- “I appreciate the spirit, but people who read books are probably the wrong demographic to aim this kind of messaging at.” holy moly the cope is unreal
There’s some that are actually being honest and saying there’s no good reason because there isn’t. I appreciate those commenters.
I look forward to being banned for trolling AKA disagreeing with you guys!
Kinda funny how everyone immediatly jumps to “this was done by people trying to make us look bad”. I mean its not impossible, but every good cause has a few dumb supporters. For now at least I dont see any reason to assume that this was a false flag or whatever.
Too much time in an echo chamber with a hint of anti-semitism
I’ve started calling this stuff “commercial Leftism”. It doesn’t care if it gets results, and it absolutely will not look for a way to interface with the power structure to change laws or force actions. It just keeps running the same ineffective, counterproductive playbook again and again and again because all it cares about is attention, and never results.
This situation and Ukraine are both filthy with propaganda, the real thing, backed by governments or their adversaries, and they already caught The Guardian using a fake AI picture of a weapons cave under a Gaza hospital that isn’t real so why would I believe this? I can’t afford to intake anything about this war/genocide as actual information.
What’s the best possible justification for vandalizing a library?
Dead children who will never grow up to learn to read. When what you’re doing isn’t working, you have to expand the discontent. The protestors of BLM and Antifa burned buildings down, yet who asks for the justification? Is vandalism not the answer to bring awareness to the slaughter of marginalized and silenced groups, or is it only acceptable when it’s closer to home?
I don’t give a shit if a hundred libraries burn to save the lives of even ten children. The dead cannot learn from their pages.
I don’t give a shit if a hundred libraries burn to save the lives of even ten children.
There is no mechanism by which burning a library saves children’s lives
And whose attention are you trying to get? That of people reading library books? People working at libraries? Because they’re not the ones in charge. They are unable to change anything about the Gaza situation.
Ask Just Stop Oil whose attention they get for throwing shit on the Mona Lisa. Are you more aware? Stonehenge. Are you more aware? Private planes. Are you more aware? The audience is everyone who doesn’t give a shit about the protests but instead pearl clutches over the covers of books getting some paint on them. You. You’re the audience because now you’re talking about it and whoever you tell. They’re not targeting book readers, they’re spreading a message.
Stop fucking killing children.
Destroying books because it’s easy just makes people say “fuck gaza” People don’t care if children die when they are powerless to prevent it. All you’re doing is make people hate you and actively work against your goals.
But if that’s what you want, have fun with that.
Because it’s easy? Who did it because it’s easy? Fucking writing on the street is easy but there’s no point, how does that make news? When the goal is awareness, how do you get it except by pissing off sensitive shits like yourself? Being aware of the problem is the first step. Having a wrong opinion about it is on them, they should look more into it but the first step is awareness.
But hey, you wouldn’t say that about BLM would you? That burning the cities and breaking into shops would “make people hate you and actively work against your goals.” would you? Of course not.
Yes I would say that about BLM. Justifying this stupid shit with that stupid shit doesn’t sway me. And no, now that I’m pissed off about this library vandalism, that does not in any way make me likely to support Gaza.
How do you not get that there is no mechanism of incentive here?
throwing shit on the Mona Lisa. Are you more aware?
No. I already knew about climate change.
Stonehenge. Are you more aware?
No. I already knew about climate change.
The audience is everyone who doesn’t give a shit about the protests but instead pearl clutches over the covers of books getting some paint on them
I am opposed to spray painting library books. But that does not mean that spray painting library books is a way to recruit my help.
In fact, there is no reason to think it would recruit my help.
Joke answer: someone thought “Branford Price Millar Library” was a dumb name
Real answer: one facet of Portland being such a melting pot is that it contains some of the dumbest people
Clearly these are not humanitarians, progressives or even true anarchists. Someone who wanted to enact change in keeping with their stated message would not vandalize a library. People who use libraries are aware of the issue. Heard of preaching to the choir? This was just a group of assholes being assholes.
A combination of not having the courage to vandalize a place that would make more sense but where you may encounter resistance, combined with a joy of punching down on people/institutions I guess?
I like this answer the best.
What the hell. Damn terrorists.
Smart-ass answer: this is not the publicity that Freedoom needed.
on one hand, it’s really hard to get the attention of the folks responsible for relief in Gaza / giving massacre weapons to the IDF, and so egging Van Goghs (protected from eggs) and spray-painting Stonehenge (with cornflour) helps when it makes news.
But yes, some people will not consider destruction as a negative. Since Libraries in the US are a public service already in jeopardy from right-wing officials, I would lower it on my potential target list.
I’m also a terrible cynic. I suspect the same apathy and inaction by our policymakers informs the apathy and inaction being taken regarding imminent great filters. As a species, were just not prepared to organize for international humanitarian crises even when they affect nations we like, and certainly won’t when they start overwhelming responding forces.
Your library got 12-Monkied.
Just burn the “dangerous books” obviously…
This isn’t a “question for the community” nor even a thinly veiled attempt at raising awareness: it’s the epitome of self-righteousness
Those are people that just want to destroy.
The “cause” is just a convenient way for them to not feel guilty.
One of the images that has haunted me for years was a big protest over an important event that warranted a serious discussion and protest. But in the middle of it, someone broke into a nearby restaurant and made off with an entire cheesecake. Broad daylight, right in front of news cameras, their pale-ass face giving no fucks in the world.
Fucking opportunists. They used to come every year and trash parts of the city during protests. Whenever they’d get arrested, they’d always be from neighboring states, never locals. It generates a massive amount of ill-will and casts legitimate protests in a bad light.
Regardless of outcome, though, the most important thing we can all do is vote. Get everyone you can to actually turn out for local elections, state/province/territory elections, and national elections. Protesting is another tool between voting.
