I stand with Palestine, and the rare spaces our public can spend time and educate themselves. Genocide is depressing. Hurting books makes me sad.

Source: Portland State in midst of expensive, ‘marathon’ race to repair damaged library before fall classes begin

PS: we appreciate the smartass answers as well for much-needed comic relief

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      We’re talking about those mindless people who riined the library. Happy it worked as intended.

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      If I went and shot someone in the name of Gaza awareness, and painted these messages on the sidewalk using their blood, that would be getting talked about, too. Point being, there’s effective forms of protest that we still shouldn’t be using.

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          I’m responding to your implication that actions in protest that get people talking about the issue are inherently valuable and worth taking. To make the point that that is not the case, I am using an extreme example to demonstrate a scenario where your statement is (I hope) objectively false.

          I think I clearly stated my counter-point, which is that just because we’re talking about it doesn’t mean it is an effective or worthwhile form of protest to be engaged in.

          I’m not really sure where you’re confused here.

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            Theirs no confusion here other than that which you were trying to make with your statement.

            I’m just pointing it out so that its clear to others what you are doing: a rhetorical bait and switch.

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        Alternately, maybe it’s the case that doing something bad to bring attention to another bad thing isn’t okay just because the thing you’re trying to bring attention to is worse.

        I actually support the protests where they’re throwing soup on paintings or whatever. Those paintings don’t really matter, but some people sure think they do, and it’s effective to get a dialog going. Libraries are a public good, one of the few we really have left. It’s like ransacking a food bank to draw attention to starving people in Gaza; it’s not helping the cause they ostensibly care about, but it is hurting others.

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        They’re just idiots complicit in the system. They’d rather have genocide if it comes wearing the right party colors.

        They don’t truly believe in protest or freedom of speech, but they themselves are also functionally worthless in this regard.

        Their hand wringing can and should be ignored.

        Biden is overseeing the slaughter of children in Gaza right now and these people are mad about books. If you are focused on some minor damage to books and not the point the protestor was making, you are the problem.

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            Yeah sure he is.

            He doesn’t need a ceasefire. He can just stop withhold financial support to Israel and all of this madness ends.

            He doesn’t care. He only cares that you believe he gives a shit about a ceasefire.

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          Send me your address and I’ll come spraypaint your house. If you don’t, you’re complicit in the system and you like genocide.

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          Ah yes, the classic “you can only be upset about one thing at a time”!

          If you’re upset I pissed on the floor instead of in the toilet while Biden is complicit with genocide you’re part of the problem!

          Sorry boss, I can’t care about my job because of Palestine!

          How dare you pull me over for going 80mph in a school zone, pig! Don’t you know what Israel is doing?

          How could you possibly expect me to care about something so insignifIcant as wiping? Don’t you know that children are dying?

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        You’re right. Everyone knows that you can only be mad about one thing at a time. Right? Because the world is fully black and white?

        Jesus fucking christ you’re an idiot.

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          I just went through 7 months of your post history, you’ve commented more in this thread acting outraged about a library than the one time you posted in a Gaza thread and called them worse than North Korea.

          Please tell me how mad you are about two things, because I can’t see your anger towards what Israel is doing.

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            Oh wow, you realy are an idiot.

            Madness obviously is measured in commands per month. It’s not like you have no clue who that person is, what they are doing and saying.

            Your only judging them by not commenting on a topic enough.

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      I see next to zero discussion about Gaza here.

      People seem to be arguing about whether vandalizing libraries is good or bad. It’s bad, for the record.

      Of course that’s only failure if your goal is for people to talk about the thing you’re supposed to care about. If your goal happens to be to get people to talk about you, screw Gaza or anybody else… well, then yeah, mission accomplished. We can all go home now.

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      How about I spray “Free Palestine” into your fucking mouth? You wouldn’t mind right? I’m sure you’d be talking about that.

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        I love how much it tells us that your this mad about even the idea that you could be inconvenienced or annoyed by a protestor.

        It tells us so much about you than you’ll ever be able to say.