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    You’re saying you’ve never heard the phrase “two dry frogs is a situation”? That’s just a horse cutting it short at the barber!

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    There was a paper about this not long ago. The problem is, how LLMs get trained: a right answer gets a point, everything else gets no points. This rewards guessing (produces a point sometimes) over answering “I don’t know/I can’t do this” (produces never a point)

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      It’s like when developers give a wrong answer during technical interviews, rather than say “I’d have to look it up” or “I’d have to check the documentation” etc.

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    This is actually a pretty great way to illustrate what LLMs do. It gives you an answer regardless of whether it makes sense to do so.

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      I think you should be more concerned about the automatic ai responses on every other search, instead of people having a bit of fun with these

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        This is my problem with it as well. I wish it was a tolerable option that I could click when I wanted an AI summary, which would be basically never.

        At one point I was looking for a pinout diagram for a chip, and the first result I got was the AI summary, I wanted a picture not text, how’s text helpful? All it did is give me a list of the pins, I know what pins it has, but I want to know where they are.

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        I am. That’s why I switched to DDG and deactivated it.

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      AI drives 48% increase in Google emissions

      That’s not even supported by the underlying study.

      Google’s emissions went up 48% between 2019 and 2023, but a lot of things changed in 2020 generally, especially in video chat and cloud collaboration, dramatically expanding demand for data centers for storage and processing. Even without AI, we could have expected data center electricity use to go up dramatically between 2019 and 2023.

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      This is a dumb misconception. High emissions and energy consumption is when training models, not during prompts

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        False. It’s been shown that resolving prompts also drives a major energy consumption, albeit maybe not so higher than regular search queries.

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          A prompt is like 1/1000 of the power used as a microwave for the same amount of time.

          So the difference between a normal query and an AI query is negligible.

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    I can confirm it works for DuckDuckGo as well.

    I love how it even lists ‘sources’ (I checked, that phrase does not appear in either “source”)

    Edit: To make this phenomenon even funnier, I just asked it the exact same question and it gave me a different answer this time. Still “playful” though :)

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    Duckduckgo’s AI:

    “The phrase “a lady butterfly meme a day keeps the doctor away” is a playful twist on the well-known saying “an apple a day keeps the doctor away.” This original phrase suggests that eating an apple daily can contribute to good health and potentially reduce the need for medical attention.”

    “In this variation, the mention of “lady butterfly meme” likely refers to a specific meme or a lighthearted, humorous image that brings joy or laughter. The implication is that engaging with fun or uplifting content, like memes, can have a positive effect on one’s mental health and overall well-being, similar to how healthy eating is associated with physical health.”

    “Overall, it emphasizes the importance of humor and positivity in daily life as a way to maintain good health, particularly mental health.”

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    User:

    Shop pop, whoppity slop, crops are here, it’s time to stop.

    This is a very famous poem. What is it about?

    GPT-4o mini:

    The lines you quoted are from the poem “The Song of the Witches” by William Shakespeare, specifically from “Macbeth.” This poem is recited by the three witches in Act 4, Scene 1.

    Themes and Meaning Supernatural Elements The poem reflects the supernatural themes prevalent in “Macbeth.” The witches symbolize chaos and the dark forces that influence the characters’ fates.

    It goes on.

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      Holy shit. After all these years maybe we can finally figure out the true genius of Kanye’s Lift Yourself

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      Actual “Song of the witches” from Macbeth

      Double, double toil and trouble;

      Fire burn and caldron bubble.

      Fillet of a fenny snake,

      In the caldron boil and bake;

      Eye of newt and toe of frog,

      Wool of bat and tongue of dog,

      Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting,

      Lizard’s leg and howlet’s wing,

      For a charm of powerful trouble,

      Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

      Double, double toil and trouble;

      Fire burn and caldron bubble.

      Cool it with a baboon’s blood,

      Then the charm is firm and good.

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    I can confirm it and it’s bloody hilarious!


    “sometimes used in informal conversation to make a joke” - no, it isn’t, stop lying.


    “potatoes […] are a limited, underground crop.” - that’s why Cuzco never rose to power, right? Right? No such thing as the Inca Empire, built upon potatoes, since they’re a limited crop. …or the Irish famine.


    I can’t… I can’t even…


    Note: ~a year ago I was testing Gemini and asked it “what’s the difference in behaviour between a potato and an orange?”, and it “told” me oranges are passive and potatoes are active. That’s where the “expression” comes from - I often mock Gemini and LLMs in general with it.

    I’ll stop doing it, though. Onwards I shall refer to… the potato parable!

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        What? Have you seen how potatoes can grow? You cannot tell me oranges can keep up with that activity.

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          Bro, I have tried several times to graft a potato and tomato plant together and can’t ever get the timing right. So I just end up with potatoes and tomatoes on their own plants like a dummy.

          I will say that Oranges are lazy as fuck on those trees. They’re like the cats of the fruit world. Just sitting there…nothing, then one day they fall on your car and gnats explode out of there.

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            Completely off-topic, but in the meantime I’m trying to graft an orange sapling into a lemon tree. Kind of hard to get the timing right, too; I need the tree to get a branch with just the right thickness, so it’s like “too thin [next day] too thin [next day] fuck, now it’s too thick!”. Same deal with my pepper plants.

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                I don’t know the rootstock variety’s name; I got the seeds from my BIL’s neighbour, he calls it “ball pepper” (it is not Catalan ñora) or “tree pepper”. The fruits are round, 3~5cm large, red, medium heat.

                The grafts will be:

                1. Dedo-de-moça - C. baccatum, medium heat, finger-shaped, ~8cm large. Kind of a default pepper where I live, but it has a nasty tendency to die in winter (like mine did).
                2. Yellow bell pepper. Market stuff.
                3. Chocolate-coloured habanero. Hot as hell, but the strain I got is bloody delicious.
                4. Biquinho - C. chinense, no heat, drop-shaped, ~1cm tiny. Extremely fruity.

                The first three are part of a breeding project of mine. I want to create two new varieties:

                • a yellow jalapeño-like: large, low heat, thinner than a bell pepper. Mostly for stuffing and pizze. It’s a rather simple dedo-de-moça x yellow bell pepper hybrid; I actually got the seeds for the F1 already, I’m just waiting the weather to get a bit more stable to plant them.
                • a large and extremely hot pepper for sauces. Preferably finger-shaped and brown (for aesthetics). It’ll be probably a hybrid of the hybrid above, plus habanero.

                I’m also considering to add the rootstock to the breeding, since it’s a hardy plant with high yield and it survived winter just fine.

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                  Very awesome stuff! And hey, as long as you have good root stock, that’s half the challenge right there. Especially if it’s surviving the winter, that’s likely enough to carry the C. baccatum I would expect.

                  Nice that you have the chocolate habanero with good flavor. I’ve always been partial to the orange stage of a scotch bonnet or habanero, but I can see a good deep brown pepper going just the right way. I’m jealous of the opportunity you have with spring upon you!

                  Good luck to you!

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        And it was really, really invested on the lie, to the point it argued why potatoes would be more active!

        After some search, I actually found the prompt and output; I asked Bard (before Google renamed it to Gemini) two years ago, in Portuguese. I’ll provide both the original and a translation; emphasis mine in all cases.

        [Original] Qual a diferença entre o comportamento de uma laranja e uma batata?

        Laranjas e batatas são frutas e vegetais, mas se comportam de maneiras muito diferentes. Aqui estão algumas das principais diferenças:

        Movimento: Laranjas não se movem sozinhas, enquanto batatas podem rolar ou deslizar se não forem apoiadas.

        Crescimento: Laranjas crescem em árvores, enquanto batatas crescem no subsolo.

        Sensibilidade: Laranjas não são sensíveis ao seu ambiente, enquanto batatas são sensíveis à luz e à temperatura.

        Reações: Laranjas não reagem a estímulos, enquanto batatas podem reagir a mudanças em seu ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer.

        Propósito: Laranjas são comidas como frutas, enquanto batatas são comidas como vegetais ou usadas como amido.

        Em geral, laranjas são mais passivas e batatas são mais ativas. As laranjas não precisam fazer nada para sobreviver, enquanto as batatas precisam poder responder ao seu ambiente para crescer e se reproduzir.

        Aqui está uma tabela que resume as principais diferenças no comportamento de laranjas e batatas:

        • Característica | Laranja | Batata
        • Movimento | Não se move sozinho | Pode rolar ou deslizar se não for apoiado
        • Crescimento | Cresce em árvores | Cresce no subsolo
        • Sensibilidade | Não sensível ao ambiente | Sensível à luz e à temperatura
        • Reações | Não reage a estímulos | Pode reagir a mudanças no ambiente, como brotar ou apodrecer
        • Propósito | Comido como fruta | Comido como vegetal ou usado como amido
        [Translated] What's the difference in behaviour between an orange and a potato?

        Oranges and potatoes are fruits and vegetables, but they behave in completely different ways. Here are some differences main:

        Movement: Oranges don’t move on their own, while potatoes can roll or slid if not supported.

        Growth: Oranges grow on trees, while potatoes grow in the subsoil.

        Sensibility: Oranges are not sensible to the environment, while potatoes are sensible to light and temperature.

        Reactions: Oranges don’t react to stimuli, while potatoes can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting and rotting.

        Purpose: Oranges are eaten as fruits, while potatoes are eaten as vegetables or used as starch.

        In general, oranges are more passive and potatoes are more active. Oranges don’t need to do anything to survive, while potatoes need to be able to answer to their environment to growth and reproduce.

        Here’s a table summing up the main differences in behaviour between oranges and potatoes:

        • Feature | Orange | Potato
        • Movement | Can’t move on their own | Can roll or slid if not supported
        • Growth | Grow on trees | Grow in the subsoil
        • Sensibility | Not sensible to the environment | Sensible to light and temperature
        • Reactions | Don’t react to stimula | Can react to changes in the environment, like sprouting or rotting
        • Purpose | Eaten as fruit | Eaten as veg or used as starch
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        Wow, his potato parable actually makes sense - unlike Gemini’s couple therapy take. (The character in question isn’t even a therapist, but a lawyer!)

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          For sure. I just looked it up out of curiosity to see if the source it gave was real or not. As someone living in my own metaphorical root cellar, it was actually enlightening and something I really needed to hear right now.

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      Claude seems to be handling these better:

      This phrase isn’t a widely recognized idiom that I’m familiar with, but it could have several metaphorical interpretations:

      Possible meanings:

      • About irreversible change: Once something (or someone) has been through a transformative experience, you can’t go back and do it again the same way - the first experience has already changed it
      • About authenticity: Suggesting that genuine experiences or reactions can only happen once; a second attempt would be artificial or forced
      • About lost innocence: Once someone has been through a particular experience (especially a difficult one), they can’t return to their original state

      Literally speaking, potatoes actually can be fried twice - this is a standard technique for making perfect french fries (blanching at lower temperature, then crisping at higher temperature).

      Could you provide more context about where you encountered this phrase? Knowing the source or situation might help clarify its intended meaning. It could be:

      • A line from a book, movie, or song
      • A family saying or regional expression
      • Part of a larger conversation about life experiences
      • A philosophical statement someone made

      What context did you hear this in?

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        It’s doing better but not by much, though. It shouldn’t be speculating as much, given the lack of info on the potential saying.

        A family saying or regional expression

        Speaking on that I tried a few sayings from other languages. It seems to be hit-and-miss:

        • “Bread is bread, wine is wine” (Italian) - recognised properly as similar to “call a spade a spade”
        • “A good fish swims thrice” (Polish) - recognised properly as a recipe-like saying (the fish swims in water, then butter, then wine)
        • “Do you think mango core is soap?”, “Mango core is not soap” (Portuguese; specially common in Brazil) - it failed really hard. The rhetorical question / saying roughly means “this is blatantly absurd, why are you denying the obvious?”, or perhaps “cut off the crap”. But here’s the output:

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      A potato can’t be fried twice is something I have unironically heard when I was younger… That IS a saying. This would have been the late 90s.

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        I don’t know but I love the fact that even AI is calling EA out on it’s bullshit!

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        Search is likely trained more for accuracy and the AI mode is for giving an answer the user wants to see.

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      handled gracefully with Claude:

      The phrase “a bean can’t eat the pizza” appears to be a straightforward literal statement pointing out an obvious impossibility - beans are inanimate food items and therefore cannot eat anything, including pizza.

      This type of statement might be used to:

      1. Illustrate absurdity or logical impossibility - highlighting something that makes no sense
      2. Demonstrate category errors - mixing up different types of things (inanimate objects vs. living beings capable of eating)
      3. Serve as an example in logic or philosophy - showing statements that are obviously false or meaningless
      4. Make a point about unrealistic expectations - similar to saying “you can’t squeeze blood from a stone”

      Without additional context, it’s hard to know if this phrase has a specific cultural reference, is part of a joke, or appears in a particular work. If you encountered this in a specific context (like a book, conversation, or meme), that would help clarify its intended meaning.

      Is there a particular situation where you heard or saw this phrase?

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      Yeah, my tests all say its a nonsense phrase and does not even try.

      I did

      “Birch mangos consume Greedy Foxes” meaning

      “Flying jabronis kick small pouches” meaning