• Sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    “Preparation purist” is wrong. You don’t boil the tea, you steep it in hot water. For some teas, like black tea, you usually boil the water before pouring it over the tea, but other types of tea use water that isn’t as hot (e.g. around 70-80°C for green tea).

    Also, if you actually want to be an ingredient purist, tea must be made from the leaves of Camellia sinensis (or a closely related species).

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      5 months ago

      You hit the issue, theyre confusing tea, a specific plant, with an infusion. Herbal tea is more correctly called an herbal infusion. Tea is a type of herbal infusion.

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        5 months ago

        From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbal_tea :

        … most dictionaries record that the word tea is also used to refer to other plants beside the tea plant and to beverages made from these other plants. In any case, the term herbal tea is very well established and much more common than tisane.

        Furthermore, in the Etymology of tea, the most ancient term for tea was 荼 (pronounced tu) which originally referred to various plants such as sow thistle, chicory, or smartweed, and was later used to exclusively refer to Camellia sinensis (true “tea”)

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          I think the confusion come from the fact that in many languages and cultures the name for tea and plant infusion is the same. Tea is name plant infusion because it is among the go to infusion if no plant is mention. But then in these language the name for “herbal infusion” or “herbal tea” does not contain the name of the specific plant “tee”. This or the languages got it wrong. Yes, I go that far.

      • Sylveon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 months ago

        This standard is not meant to define the proper method for brewing tea intended for general consumption, but rather to document a tea brewing procedure where meaningful sensory comparisons can be made.

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      5 months ago

      I’ve been to a workshop about green tea recently and you can prepare it with any water temperature. You can make it with cold water, it just takes longer. You can even place ice cubes into the can, put tea leaves on top and let them melt

    • Remy Rose@lemmy.one
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      5 months ago

      I came to say the same thing about Camellia sinensis, thinking “am I about to be more of a tea purist than is even encapsulated in this chart?” So I’m glad somebody else got there first lol

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            5 months ago

            Sure, if you think preparation and ingredients don’t matter. Enjoy a hot, steaming, cup of Saturn.

            • Why do you think that the Chinese way is the only way to prepare authentic tea? It’s so weird dude. We have an ancient tea tradition in India. That’s my point. That a purist might think this method as the proper way too. And it’d be just as valid.

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                It’s not weird at all. China invented tea (Camellia sinensis). The cultivation techniques, the drying and fermenting, and the brewing techniques for various types of black, white, green, and oolong tea. They named it, too. Both “tea” and “chai” are derived from the Chinese word for tea.

                Tea wasn’t cultivated in India until the nineteenth century, when it was introduced by colonial British who literally stole tea plants and seeds from China in an act of corporate espionage. At that point in time, China had been cultivating tea for multiple millennia, and exporting it around the globe for several hundred years. India initially produced CTC (cut, tear, crush) tea on colonial plantations for export, only later (in the 1900s) selling tea to the domestic Indian market, when the practice of adding CTC black tea to masala chai took off in India.

                What’s weird is that you’ve bought into some kind of alternate history where India invented tea.

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      5 months ago

      It depends of the kind of tee your using. Once I bought the wrong type of turkish tea and next thing I now I’m boiling my tea during month so I don’t drink a slighty darker version of hot water.

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      5 months ago

      Thank you. I am horrified that I had to scroll past a discussion of “is pho tea”? to get here. The so-called purist has never even made a proper cup of tea! So obviously pho is NEVER tea, since stock is extensively boiled.