• salty_chief@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Parents use to say leave your toys at home. I guess parents need the virtual babysitter with them at all times.

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    2 months ago

    I find myself in awe on how this much of brainrot can be watched by a little kid every time I encounter that…

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    Good god this hits home

    Months ago I was visited by a relative who brought their eight year old. She’s single and her boy is ever so slightly mentally not there. He’s smart enough but just not there with everything. Plus the mother is not capable of looking after him. So many wrong things and I hate to judge anything about it … both mother and son are having and will continue to have a hard life.

    As we talked, the son spent the entire time with their device looking at YouTube videos.

    At one point I wanted to try to make friends and asked him what he was watching … he mumbled and ignored me. I looked over at his video and it was just a completely nonsensical animation of characters running around like in a video game … I couldn’t understand what was happening or why, the cartoon animals were just mumbling nonsense, laughing, running and flashing lights and constant cuts to new scene after new scene. I looked at the kid and he was two steps away from just drooling.

    I couldn’t believe it and it scared me. This device was melting any amount of brain power the kid had.

    It made me think about myself and what the hell I was doing with my time.

    It made me think that the world is all doing the same thing to one degree or another. Some are better, since are terribly worse.

    It made me think that humanity is doomed.

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      In my experience, it’s either anime characters and flashing lights/colors or some streamer screaming his head off. Both equally nonsensical.

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      Mechanisms of manipulation and control are getting more and more sophisticated and it’s really fucking sad.

      Its like watching someone overdose. It sucks. And we don’t have language about it, even shitty language, like we do for drugs, so it’s hard to even talk to people about.

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        we have it. but its too technical and people seem to have developed an aversion to technical sounding things.

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      That’s not developmentally normal even for a tablet kid, fyi. I would help them seek immediate evaluation…

      I have a family member who was a tablet kid when they were 8. However they engage with me, their favorite thing is to play the addictive tablet game in my lap and they love when I or others play it with them, especially if you make a story out of it. They watch way too much YouTube but they were delighted when I watched with them, we did thumbs up and thumbs down and talked about what we were watching. They sat in my lap and while laser focused and addicted to the content, were also primarily engaging with me. They sadly are a bit attention starved from their neglectful parents but that’s a lot more developmentally normal imo.

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      I have friends with kids like that, and it’s scary. I’m obviously a fan of technology, but critical thinking might go down the drain if children spend all day in front of a screen at such a young age.

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        Adults today are, at least wherever Western media and culture has taken over, mostly mentally challenged and vacuous consumerists. What hope do their kids have? I feel bad for my future children, ngl, but they might die in the water wars regardless so maybe they won’t have to tolerate nonsense for long, lol.

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        I genuinely think there should be a legal limit to when children are allowed independent access to JavaScript & Internet enabled technology. I would suggest twelve years.

        Having it be law would remove probably the biggest reason children are drawn to technology initially today: social pressure and anxiety.

        I didn’t grow up with anything like this (and I’m pretty young… or I was at some point) and thank fucking God I didn’t. I barely read today as it is, instead wasting time with screens and YouTube and shit like that; I’m happy I had the opportunity to consume hours and hours of time with reading as a child. Not just reading: I learned basically every knot that exists (I still have my copy of Ashley’s Book of Knots), learned an absurd amount of physics (with textbooks! for fun! I wouldn’t, couldn’t, do that today), learned to program and use Minix (ok, that was highschool, so a little later), and even got into Marxism.

        These are all opportunities I don’t think I could replicate today, because I don’t get bored in the same way today. Now, if I’m bored, I automatically look at my phone (…lemmy…), or open YouTube, or do something else equally stupid. I didn’t have that option when I was young. We didn’t even own a TV. I was forced to do interesting things, and I’m really happy I was, because I’d be an exceedingly illiterate boring moron if I hadn’t read those novels and learned how the universe worked and understood why capitalism sucks.

        Maybe I’m yelling at clouds and people will become interesting through other means, but it really frightens me how much dumber I’ve become. I don’t want to imagine how much harder it will be for masses of gen Z and Alpha.

        Ok, I feel like I got a little off topic there. Rant over…

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    Meh, back in the days we’d watch youtubepoop videos and whatnot. Nonsense you like os funny, nonsense you don’t is brainrot.

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      Quantity is an important factor. A half hour a day of brainrot isn’t a big problem, constant brainrot during all your free time is going to impact your concentration abilities, your mental image of the world, your ability to build meaningful logical connections and so many other mental development elements.

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        Exactly. We gathered together around my friend’s monitor, and laughed at FreddyW videos for 10 minutes, the continued our board game / rpg session.

        Compare this to how some kids are watching mind numbing shit whole day on their personal screens. Very diffrent effect

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          That’s even different because what you are describing is brainrot as a social activity, strengthening the bonds with your friends through shared experience

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      Meh, back in the days we’d watch youtubepoop videos

      Mofo how old are you, I am 33 and back in the day we didn’t have youtube, we went out and played football.

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      No. I mean, there’s a plave for low art, but we’re much better at artlessslop these days.

      Decoupling art from content the same way we decoupled content from physical media.

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        you jest. fox news would never stoop so low to play that garbage.

        they stoop lower by playing fucker carlson, or other fascist talking heads.

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    The fun thing is you pull even worse faces when the brainrot is taken away from them and now youre stuck in an enclosed space with a screaming toddler running away getting wrestled back, jostling against your chair while youre trying to eat.

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    Sometimes that iPad is there for you not the kids, try raising an autistic kid with unlimited energy, when you get them in a restaurant or bus, if the iPad is gonna keep him quiet and occupied, that means you don’t have to hear him complain. Kids aren’t robots, they’re people, and some have special needs and get overwhelmed in the fucked up world we made. If super kitties is gonna keep him relaxed for a bit so be it.

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      Most often the iPad is not for the kids but for inattentive Parents that just want to doomscroll in peace and not deal with their offspring.

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        You don’t know that it’s “most often”.

        That’s just how you feel about it. You’re being judgmental but don’t have any idea.

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        Parking them in front of YouTube kids isn’t the right idea though… The content they show is just ridiculous.

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        My colleague is real nice and all, but exactly why she gives iPad/phone to her toddler is exactly for the reason you mentioned. A lot of parents are lazy. And we wonder why the younger generation is turning right, because techno-fascists know how glued we are now to digital devices.

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        I used to think exactly that and judge that heavily, but after my sister became a mother, we talked about this and she said essentially, that you don’t know them, you don’t know the day they’ve had and what they have done all day and what happened before. And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn’t mean they are not doing super much before. Because everybody has a breaking point and you cannot be perfect, but you don’t know the arguments or deals or time spent earlier, and sometimes it’s necessary to also keep care of yourself and relax a bit when you’re done.

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          I had a similar change of perspective when I became a parent. We do our best to raise our kids to be the best people they can be. But, if we want to do normal people things and that requires some screen time, so be it. I know what’s going on with my kids and idgaf what others think.

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          And that having a child is so hard that sometimes you just need to do things that are maybe not optimal, like giving them coke or letting them be on an iPad in public to avoid another hour of screaming, but that doesn’t mean they are not doing super much before.

          mhm yes, because instant gratification is always a trait to foster…

          I saw it in the development of my nephew that he gets so easily frustrated and also scared to break anything, because toys like the iPad are expensive as heck (and when its broken it can’t give him any dopamine shots).

          So we get highly temperamental kids that have super short attention spans. Hurrah for dumbification of your civilisation. Two hails for our corporate overlords!

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            Congrats, you perfectly missed the point of the message you replied to.

            Maybe your nephew gets the iPad all the time and that messed up his frustration tolerance. Ok. You might have a closer inside to how he is parented. When you see someone outside with a kid on an iPad you cannot know these things about them. Whatever it looks like to you, you’re judging strangers based on a one point observation.

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      Hey, super kitties is quality content compared to YouTube. We have a YouTube ban in my house - the only exception is if it’s an actual show that can’t be found on streaming services.

      The rest of this is spot on. We use iPads to keep our kids quiet in public places that are boring to them, like restaurants or planes.

      We’ve all experienced an annoying kid in a restaurant, or a crying baby on the plane. It sucks, but usually that’s short lived. This post just seems like child-free snark/elitism signaling to me.

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    Me when a friend of mine who’s an engineer who sometimes works for the CERN unironically watches Mr. Beast and listens to Papa-a-pate (?, this nonsense k-pop song, it was popular some months ago…).

    Like, yeah, you have the hardware, why fill your brain with malware! ;-;

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    And their parents allow them to blast the sound in public with no headphones. I can’t fathom the lack of give-a-fucks for their fellow humans (to include their own children).

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      Yes that’s kind of a pet peeve of mine. I understand that sleep deprived parents sometimes need to put their kids in front of their phones. But in recent years I have noticed that they just blast the sound really loud and don’t care about any other human being. I’m really shy but after almost freaking out on a train ride because of two different kids just watching something full volume I have asked parents to tone it down. They were even kind of embarrassed and nice about it. I have no idea how you can be so disconnected to your surrounding… The worst were grandparents with a 2 year old kid during a kids theater and they just let the kid watch a show with the volume up. I mean what about all the other kids who are performing and you sit in the middle with a phone just blasting full volume. They wanted to stop him and then he started throwing a tantrum. They just laughed and were like oh he’s so cute and we can’t to anything about it. Fuck that’s not cute, if you want to watch a tv show with volume, just sit outside of theater with your little brat!

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      i mean, if they were wearing headphones the kid’d still be blasting it. it saves the kid’s hearing at a minor social cost. tinnitus really sucks and if the parents have to take measures to prevent it, i’ll take being annoyed for a few minutes to keep someone else from getting tinnitus. it’s beyond a fair trade.