Just got diagnosed today with early onset dementia. I don’t want to be so far gone or drugged up to be functional. I would like to be a nurse for at the least the next ten years to help people. I would i don’t know what they call it nowadays but die with some at least dignity? Also if you have mental problems and are thinking about it in the US dial 988
There is a place in switzerland called dignitas
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I know in some places and cases there is medically-assisted death. Not sure what goes into it, but there’s a whole process.
Terribly sorry to hear of your diagnosis. I wouldn’t want to go through that either.
Its legal here in Oregon but I know there are some restrictions especially surrounding cognition. Not sure if you could set something up now but “use” it later considering OP’s situation.
I mean i love you guys, and girls, i love my patients but not wanting to go thru it like Bruce Willis is and other people.
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Yes, it depends a lot on the jurisdiction where you live. In general where permitted, it involves a process of legally establishing your wishes, receiving qualified counseling, and then obtaining the “means” to use according to your designated plan.
There’s a thing called an Advanced Health Directive in Western Australia, legally outlining who and under what circumstances is permitted to make decisions on your behalf.
I would talk to your medical team and ask them how this works in your country. It’s also when you discover what the cultural beliefs your team has and if they align with yours.
I’d be doing this sooner rather than later.
It’s different from country to country, in most places it’s illegal and your hired gun would be put to prison for murder.
In Switzerland I know they have the posibillity. It’s quite lengthy precedure, you need to show you’re terminally I’ll and there are meetings with psychiatrists and so on so that a overwhelming majority of people who start the process decide against it and for a natural death and only very few go through it.
Check to see if you are in a Country or State with Assisted death.
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Just being pragmatic here, but the answer is yes, you can hire such a person. It would be a terrible, terrible idea. As for the other options you mentioned, just don’t do it. There’s no scenario where these methods don’t traumatize survivors, bystanders, first responders, and just random people – none of whom deserve that.
I know someone who came home to his partner’s dead lifeless body after a hanging. I know someone who found their child several days after an intentional overdose. I know a truck driver who suffered life threatening injuries as a result of avoiding someone trying to end their own life.
And I only saw some of the trauma suffered by those folks, I’m sure the real trauma was far, far deeper.
I hate to say this, but I’m not sure losing a loved one to dementia isn’t just as traumatic, and I think the trauma could be mitigated here by communicating with the people they love.
When/if I am diagnosed with a terminal disease I hope I will have a conversation with my wife, the rest of my family, and my closest friends about how I want to die and what a life worth living looks like to me. I like to think that I’ll leave this world by my own hand, hopefully surrounded by the people I love, or at least with their understanding and support. I don’t think that’s selfish.
OP, I think you have time to figure out what’s best for you and yours. We’re all terminal in the end. I wish you a slow progression, a meaningful life, and a dignified end someday.
I would take more time to sit with the diagnosis before doing anything rash. See what your actual progression is like.
Ten years from now, when you’re ready, you pull a Luigi. Go out a hero.
Probably pretty stupid plan, person wandering around with gun who can’t remember who he’s supposed to kill.
Would make a good movie though
That’s kind of the plot of Unknown (2011)
And Memento.
Whether assisted suicide is legal depends on entirely on your jurisdiction.
Over here in Germany, assisted suicide is still a highly delicate matter from a legal perspective. Actively assisting in a suicide is straight up illegal, and even passively by just providing the means is at best in a gray zone. Despite our highest court having overturned the outright ban on assisted suicide, our various governments since this ruling have failed to pass any legislation on the matter.
As @vk6flab@lemmy.radio pointed out, there are so-called Advanced Health Directives, which in essence contains information for medical personnel on what to do in case you can’t communicate your will clearly anymore. Which i.e. can include that you do not want to be feed artificially and instead only request to ease the pain till death.
I would like to be a nurse for at the least the next ten years to help people.
Are you a nurse already? If so, you probably have access to a lot more and less traumatizing options to pass on than asking someone to shoot you.
Anyhow, I highly sympathize with your situation and hope that you still have many good and joyful days ahead of you.
OP, I’m very sorry that you and your loved ones are facing this, it’s a terribly daunting diagnosis. I’m 100% for bodily autonomy and believe this is entirely between you, possibly your supportive loved ones.
I won’t say you should drag out unnecessary suffering so others will be more comfortable. I feel you should make whatever decision is right for you. Please look into locations with death with dignity laws, and get something in writing pretty quickly. If you’re in the USA, you may have to plan for residence elsewhere, because our autonomy is rapidly being constricted.
Again, I’m terribly sorry, and wish you and your loved ones the best you can make of the situation.
Functional in what way. You’ll still be quite lucid well into the middle stage where you can’t work. It ain’t like it’s direct ticket from work to a locked memory care unit. You might even find life fulfilling along the way that your current anxieties can’t see. I’m an RN myself and I certainly understand seeing cases where you’d rather be dead than there, but there’s a lot of transition between.
Problem with dementia is the slow progression. When you can decide to end it you likely can think rationally enough that you should not and when you are at the point of it actually being bad enough you likely are not fit to decide that. Also just like a kid it can be fun to watch shows or eat tasty food or listen to or even sing songs. So if you are in a position to have a good enough environment for it it might be fine. So if your wealthy enough it might not be to bad. When you go physically down though it gets much worse as someone with physical issues can still have intellectual pursuits to enjoy. In the end the us at least does not allow any kind of death with dignity. Best you get is DNR orders and hospice which will allow you to die by not intervening. If your unconscious this can include withholding liquid till you die of thirst. No giving you to much barbituates though. That would be killing you and that would be a no no. But if you can’t drink you can be allowed to die after a few days as your organs shutdown.
In Canada, we have Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID.
In early COVID, my oncle was diagnosed with non-hodgekins lymphoma. It’s a cancer, I think. His blood transfusions got really frequent just as we were getting into COVID, and he knew he wouldn’t outlast it. And, every visit to the hospital in his condition would mean a deadly infection or virus that he could also bring home and afflict his wife or his girls or the granddaughter one was carrying.
So, on one random Tuesday, the family gathered and told stories and hugged. And the he hit the morphine button the nurse had set up. And he left shortly after 5.
It’s legal, but they’ll make you sit for a psyche first. It’s free. It’s humane.
Another uncle had cancer for 37 years. A model of modern medicine, he was the shell of a man but he’d lived a life. He got pneumonia one Christmas, and when the doctor asked what he thought, he refused care and asked for palliative. His care changed rapidly and he had a very comfy few days before departure.
I hope you’re living in northern Europe or Canada. MAID doesn’t stop suicides, but it makes them more humane.
In Queensland, Australia, we passed a Voluntary Assisted Dying law a few years ago. But it’s worth noting that it probably would not apply to OP’s condition. One of the eligibility criteria is “expected to cause death within 12 months”, and another is “Have decision-making capacity” which means that long-term progressive diseases which take away mental faculties long before they cause death, as Alzheimer’s does, are unfortunately not eligible.
In depends on what state you live in. loook up what states have legal euthanasia and what the residency requirements are to get it.
