• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Let them scrape. AI as it currently is, is still autocomplete with extra steps, and still prone to hallucination. As it is it will be usable to make cheap, passable content, but not hit those moments of inspiration of human art (yet – there are real AI groups looking to make AGI)

    It is a bubble which will pop and AI will be seen as a tool (a resource-costly tool) that requires its own set of experts independent from the experts that use ACAD or write editorial copy or do investigative work. Id est, it’s not the replacement of employees that boards of directors want it to be.

    And AGI is centuries from being efficient enough that you can make Rosie the Robot who cleans your house and makes a good upside-down pineapple cake.

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Is that what we’re up against? I thought every time I voice my mind on forums it gets upvoted or downvoted or ignored, but always ultimately ignored 🤷🏼‍♀️.

  • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Its been shit since covid. Everyone constantly online, and really ramping up the stupid as fuck culture wars. “Back in my day” I could log into a chat room, have some fun conversations, and then log off without getting pissed off or pissed on. I could look at movie news, and not be swapped by performative hate or praise for whatever fucking movie is or isnt “woke”.

    Everywhere you go, you see “Be civil” or “Be respectful”. But all that really means is, dont question out echo chamber. And if you do, well, turns out not being civil towards you doesnt count.

    Left and right doesnt matter. Its all hate and performative praise as far as the eye can see.

  • tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The forum I call home tolerates a lot of hate speech.

    I think I’m out, but it’s less about the AI scraping and more about moderation.

    • TruthMcGee@lemmynsfw.com
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      3 days ago

      I don’t even oppose hate speech at this point as long as its directed towards people who believe in the project 2025 agenda instead of the other way around (which it almost exclusively always is) 🤷 we need a kiwi farms but for targeting delusional conservatives. The enemy got to where they are today partly due to mass internet trolling and letting them trample the internet unopposed leaves weak-minded normies to adopt and fight for their views. “being nice” about it ain’t getting anybody anywhere and its time for these pieces of shit to actually experience bullying for themselves.

      Too bad no such communities exist on the internet.

  • argarath@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they’re all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it’ll just be a jumbled useless mess!

    • Ugh@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      People who use screen readers (like blind people) would be screwed. I like where your head is at, though!

      • argarath@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        Built-in screen reader with a page designed for those who are hard of sight (is that the name?) with stuff like tab navigation that is actually useful, unlike most websites today! But yeah this “solution” is very hard to implement because it has a lot of things it’ll cause issues to that will need individual fixes for, thanks AI and scrapers!! Making the internet a hellhole sure is great!

      • argarath@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        True… But what if the forum had its own search engine that could ignore the anti-scraping stuff? The issue would be making a good search engine lol

    • InputZero@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Discord’s complete lack of indexing. Although it’s definitely not impossible to scrape data from Discord it would take more resources than say reddit.

      • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
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        3 days ago

        If an AI company pays Discord they won’t scrape but get the data directly.

      • RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        3 days ago

        But they Index everything. Just request your data and you’ll get a neat package of all your messages with timestamps and all.

          • kadu@lemmy.world
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            3 days ago

            So what? You can still sell it to AI companies without assigning an user to each message. They don’t care about who wrote it when stealing the content.

  • vane@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.

  • ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.

    Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)

    Now there’s easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs…

    The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee