At what point do we consider Trump voters as terrorists? Waiting until they actually kill people or destroy everything doesn’t sound like a good idea.
Even if they did do a terrorism and kill people, they’d probably just blame it on trans people and get away with it.
I guarantee the crime rate of maga is greater than the undocumented immigrant population. We already know undocumented immigrants commit less crime than native-born Americans as a whole.
Not paying attention to NYC, huh?
In my news podcasts, “Crime has reached a fifty year low.”
(Go outside to my peaceful quiet neighborhood)
My pro-Trump neighbor, “Crime is out of this world!”
I sometimes just pause and consider what their life must be like… constant paranoia, fear, worry… all over things that aren’t occurring.
Your comment is the same.
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Nobody tell this guy the population-adjusted crime rate of rural white republican Appalachia…
Or that violent crime is at a 50 year low under Biden.
Voters? Never.
Supporters who organize to commit acts of terror like shutting down local libraries via threats of violence? Now. We should be doing that now.
I didn’t fight shit heads in Iraq just to have more shit heads do it here.
Why did you fight shit heads in Iraq?
That’s a deep question. But I’m in a mood tonight so fuck it. I got there because I was young and well indoctrinated. I stayed there and went back because Saddam and AQ were massive assholes the locals didn’t deserve. I left because my body couldn’t handle the physicality of the job anymore. At no point was I looking at that stuff going, “you know the one thing we don’t have at home is religious zealots planting bombs, we need more of that!”
The people here who want to fight you herehad a hand in installing those s*** heads in Iraq.
Yeah I know. We knew when they announced Bremer’s orders. Then we got home and found out just how much lying went into starting the war and it became obvious they wanted a forever war. If they had won the election in 2008 they would have found some way to destabilize Iraq again, not knowing ISIS was just around the corner.
Enemies, foreign and domestic…
I’ve always considered them as such.
I already consider them to be terrorists. Maybe not all trump supporters. but, there’s definitely a lot that are.
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Oh no, they are not terrorists. I know because the cops told me they are very fine people.
Was it the cops saying that, or mostly just the Commander In Thief? It certainly wasn’t all cops.
Waiting for them to actually commit a crime is usually necessary.
There have been crimes committed. Armed men have shut down kids events with violent threats. Where’s the arrests?
Good question. If there aren’t arrests perhaps there were no crimes. Just things you want to be crimes.
Are terroristic threats not a crime?
Oh look they are!
So what is your expert legal theory for why no crime was charged then?
The cops are on their side.
After Jan 6 I’d say now. Now is good.
Didn’t they march inside some important government building and try to overthrow an election at some point?
Don’t forget planned to murder every Democrat, Republican who didn’t do what they wanted, and the Vice President.
“HANG MIKE PENCE!”
They’ve also interrupted public life with threats of violence related to their religion and politics. They have been past the line for awhile and any vet who dealt with the reality of terror campaigns over seas can recognize this trajectory. If we don’t start enforcing this stuff soon we’re going to have our own version of Al Qaida policing our lives.
I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities.
The police will not protect you, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.
Iran was a secular, liberal monarchy until almost 1980 when they (mostly) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
It’s hard for me to recommend that because what most people don’t know is the political violence in Iraq reached levels that would have been a civil war if not for the coalition’s presence. And having watched that level of violence once in my life I’m really hoping we can elect someone that puts the government to work stopping this violent far right theocracy movement. On the other hand I can’t in good faith deny anyone the basic tools I had to defend myself in that situation. I just know that every gun in the mix makes violence more likely and violence only begets more violence. If this kicks off we’ll need a real focus on deprogramming and welcoming people back into the normal population. The zero tolerance approach just doesn’t work, you can’t shoot an idea. Only defend yourself from the person who believes it.
Spoken like a person with absolutely no skin in the game. Talking it out is great but what happens when that doesn’t work? What happens when the next one successfully takes power and the congress and judiciary side with them?
Fascists love pacifists committed to talking things out.
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I love the optimism. just a quick question. what are you smoking and where can I get some?
It’s you that’s smoking. The establishment hates insurrections, horrible optics. Alphabet agencies are absolutely keeping tabs on a few select gentlemen.
A few select gentlemen
Is not the same as
they’re all being watched carefully after January 6th, any of them make a single false move and they’re in jail.
Also, the alphabet agencies love a good insurrection. they just don’t like insurrections against them. which may or may not have been the case on Jan 6 (remember how there was an insignificant LEO presence in DC that day? despite a plethora of warnings of violence. People in those agencies made sure that was the case.)
Caught them right in the feelings. Toddler tantrums will be dealt with as such.
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So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.
As usual, it’s okay with they do it.
The thing I think is the most irreconcilable, incompromisable, consistently demonstrated behavior of The Right in America is the blatant hypocrisy about nearly all of their planks. It’s the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.
- Everyone needs guns to defend themselves from The State, because 2A! (Except for black people defending themselves from no-knock entry cops who got the address wrong)
- The government shouldn’t be allowed to tell us how to live! (Except for LGBTQ* people, women’s choices about their own bodies, or homeless people)
- The Constitution is sacrosanct! (Except for the part about separation of church and state, we just ignore that part)
It’s the same for their every. Single. Position. It makes me weary, and furious, depressed and pessimistic.
I wish I could after on the guns things but I should not own a gun! I have a history of depression and I super don’t want to have easy access.
That said, put a gun in my hands and I’ll do my part to end fascism. I’m even a fairly decent shot for having only fired a gun 3 different times. Just please take the thing away from me when I rotate out.
Better yet, get me an fpv headset.
When I joined the militia I had promised myself to kill one Fascist – after all, if each of us killed one they would soon be extinct… -George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia
I’m not advocating anyone buy a gun, mind you. My general opinion on guns is the same about cars: the only person I truly trust to operate one is me; the rest of all y’all are just generally unreliable.
That said: get a long gun. Any non-Bulpup rifle with a 20” or longer barrel - it’s really hard to commit suicide with a long rifle. You can find a way, sure, but there are far easier, more reliable ways to off yourself than trying to figure out how to pull a trigger you can’t reach when the bangy end is pointed at your head. And the knowledge that most people who try doing this end up still alive but permanently mangled and with reduced faculties may drive you to seek those alternative methods.
Another plus for a rifle is that it’s simply a better weapon for killing fascists. We have a lot of evidence that handguns are almost never used in armed conflicts. They’re far less powerful than rifles (in general), and their effective ranges are drastically shorter. Get a cheap optic, do some practice shooting, and you’ll be better armed and prepared than any open-carry idiot running around armed only with their trusty Colt M1911 with official Trump pistol grips.
I really wish that last part was a joke.
I don’t mean to come across as minimizing mental health issues. I also can’t prevent you from trying to off yourself. All that said, I hope you are able to get help, and get healthy.
Hey thanks, this is an idea that I hadn’t thought much about and I’ll have to consider it. I also need consider storage and how to get to a range without a car but those things are workable.
As for my mental health, I’m doing well and feel in a good place all around. I got married a year and a half ago and have a stable life. I’m doing good. This will have to be a process if I’m going to buy a rifle but your arguments have opened me to the idea.
It’s the thing that, when the next civil war comes, will allow me to pull the trigger on anyone wearing a red baseball cap with little remorse.
Nationals and Phillies fans seem unfairly targeted…
Yeah, well, if they’re still wearing that shit during an active civil war - I mean, we’re taking about Phillies fans, so no great loss.
(Note: I lived on The Mainline for 20 years, so I think I’m allowed some ribbing. Phillies fans not only regularly trash Philadelphia in drunken riots after games, they also came to my new state and totally trashed Minneapolis while they were here. I don’t believe there’s a worse bunch of hooligans in the States.)
St. Louis Cardinals started selling blue ball caps. Not sure if it’s related to the 2016+ phenomenon, but I like to think it is.
Except for black people defending themselves from no-knock entry cops who got the address wrong
Don’t forget Philando Castile, a legal gun owner who did exactly what the NRA said you should do when pulled over with a gun in the car and got shot. The NRA made barely a peep about it. Can’t imagine white.
Fuck the NRA. The majority of gun owners who aren’t NRA tit suckin cop fuckers, still are pissed about that injustice, same with Breonna Taylor and Kenneth Walker. Anyone suggesting the police are there for them and want to disarm us all, these cases and a bunch more like them, are why we say fuck no.
NAGR > NRA
While I personallywould prefer a constitutional amendment that overrides the 2nd, I’m not giving up my guns until the cops are no longer armed criminals, and you’re never getting my crossbows.
Any law that violates the constitution should not be obeyed. That is the duty of the U.S. citizen.
Sure, but the constitution is capable of being amended, and is long overdue for some amendments.
Castile wasn’t the last of it, either. Roger Fortson recently was gunned down for simply having a gun. He was not brandishing or pointing it at anyone. It was a very similar situation, just not a vehicle stop.
It won’t stop until someone makes it stop. Qualified Immunity has got to fucking go.
Qualified Immunity is illegal according to the law that Congress passed in 1871.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
Can’t imagine white.
Well, that’s it, right? Because not-white.
“Yeah but this is totes different thing!!!?!?!”
Well… that’s true. In this case, the person who got charged actually went through the court system rather than being murdered by a cop.
Which seems… fairer?
Yes. That’s literally the platform. They say whatever they have to to cover their asses because all they really care about it being able to do whatever they want while forcing everyone else to do live by their rules.
They don’t care when you point this out because that is their goal. They’re shameless about it.
Like I said, I’m surrounded by these idiots. They hate it when you suggest they aren’t real Americans.
They know in their hearts that they are Loyalists. Call them the red coats that they are.
You’ve got to remember, they don’t view the BLM reasons as miscarriages of justice. Because they’re morons.
Everything. Is. A. Projection.
They took their stupid shot on Jan 6th and then they realized they were mostly larpers. Projection to the point of action.
Jan 6th protestors didn’t even come armed… lol smh
It was just a prank bro
For some, it wasn’t without trying
Jan 6th protestors didn’t even come armed
Actually
somemany were armed.
Beer Hall Putsch
They took their first (arguably second after Charlottesville or the Bible photo op BS) shot on Jan 6. Don’t think there won’t be a second attempt. They view this guy as a messiah and they view themselves as religious. Him not getting what they want is a dangerous combination. He’s already shown the “greater good” has no place in his world.
REMEMBER this next time you see them calling so and so a pedophile without any proof just based on their suspicions. They’re constantly outing themselves
Literally everything. They’re afriad of Land Back because they fear the Native peoples will take the land the same way the founders of America took it. They’re afraid of equality because they think when Black people do better it must mean they themselves will be worse off because they cant imagine wealth without exploitation, the way they used to make wealth for themselves.
“But this time the guy was
whiterichRepublicaninnocent!”No, according to DJT, “very innocent”, which is as reassuring as “a little bit pregnant”.
And if they make that argument, I’ll tell them that means they believe people are “guilty until proven innocent” and don’t deserve a trial by a jury of their peers, which is as unAmerican an idea as you can get.
Not going to be useful. They don’t want a democracy, they don’t want a justice system. They want a king and the ability to use state power to shit on other people.
Trust me, I am in Indiana. I’m surrounded by these flag-waving morons. You call them unAmerican and they lose their shit. And all I have to do is pull up the Bill of Rights.
I get all this talk about their rights yet they seem so fundamentally opposed to me having mine.
These people are terrible citizens.
They’re downright bad people too. They dont get to do a few good deeds while trying to use political power to do away with human life and human rights without being called the moster they are.
No argument from me. As the person above said, they don’t want a democracy or a justice system. They are as bad a citizen you can get without actively sending classified information to a rival power.
They are all members of the cult, just sadly the majority of them don’t realize they are. This is David Koresh on steroids! He has a platform previous cults did not, and has captured a political party to use for recruitment. It has become apparent that at some point the media and the country need to start treating his cult as such, and we need to figure out how to “rescue” millions of people that would do anything for their cult leader because they have broken all tethers to reality. Putting the cult leader in jail is not going to bring these people back, and is going to require mental health resources on a scale the US (and the world) has never had to deal with before. This is going to have repercussions for generations.
Either PBS or NPR had a thing a few years back where they’d read sections of the Bill of Right on air, as part of Independence Day celebrations.
The right wing folks who heard it thought it was communist propaganda.
Do they not still do that? I’ve had to listen to a lot less NPR since my daughter decided I’m not allowed to listen to the radio in the car.
I love getting called a liberal pussy by civilian clowns that have never served a day. Pretty sure the government trained me to kill.
Great, let the rioters expose themselves, then lock them up.
You don’t expect the cops to lock themselves up,do you?
Funny how they’re calling for riots instead of going to the streets and rioting.
I wonder if they remember what happened to them the last time they tried that shit 🤔.There are a lot of armchair generals on the Internet. Unfortunately not limited to the Republican side of things.
But the Republican ones tend to be bigger hypocrites since they usually condemn rioting when anyone else does it, especially if they aren’t white.
Give them a break
Are you really expecting all the people posting this stuff to pay for the flight from Russia?
And the rubes who believe them here, do you expect them to exert 30 feet without their phones telling them what to do?
Pepperidge farm remembers. The crowd that was all about “back(ing) the blue” managed to kill a police officer and four of themselves.
Then Fox News refused to air spots the dc police wanted to put up. Fun fact
I didn’t know about that, but I’m unsurprised the fox “news” propaganda machine goes brrrrr.
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These are likely the same ones that pushed 1/6 and spent a lot of time telling people to do it.
The reason they’re still doing that, is they weren’t the ones to actually show up.
They’re not gonna stop doing it, because they didn’t get any consequences from last time.
All they gotta do is keep making these posts saying someone should do something. And chances are some idiots will do it.
Like, remember that main old guy from American History X?
He got naive kids to do the dirty work, so he was able to spend decades doing it without any consequences.
For real life example, just look at Alex Jones. How long it took for him to even go to court, and how he’s still not in jail or paying any judgements.
But he’s still running his mouth and telling others to do the work.
Fuck around & find out, chuds.
Not a surprise knowing these supporters of him.
Here we go again…
Nah, not enough of them gathered in one place.
Will there be incidents here and there? That is distinctly possible. But it won’t lead to the great civil war or revolution or whatever the fuck they want to happen.
They want their electric bugaloo or whatever coded nonsense they use to describe civil war v2.1
The “boogaloo” that conservatives are calling for is both a civil war and a race war. It’s the conservatives’ purge of all the normal people using street violence instead of conservative legislation.
It’s also Schroedinger’s race-whistle. If you mention the boogaloo to a typical conservative, they will pretend it is not a conservative movement. If you insult the idea of a boogaloo, the same typical conservative will become defensive and angry for some strange reason.
Police vs brownshirts, whoever loses, we win.
That’s what I said when I was watching J6 on TV. “Come on! Fight the cops you pussies!”
If the police lose, you really lose
The party of snowflakes lol
OK, so now I halfway-hope the vigilantes that try to do this will end up facing criminal charges for it
But, I also halfway-expect cops and prosecutors to look the other way if the victims of this kind of crime ends up being the kind of people they’d be disproportionately policing and convicting anyhow
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the party of law and order.
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