EU should really create rule to use only EU FOSS tech for goverment services. For all member states.
Well now i know Linux is ready to switch over to.
Thanks Microsoft!
why are people that are building FOSS software not using FOSS software to build it? Gitlab? Forgejo?
People are complicated and FOSS isn’t as simple as all or nothing.
Sometimes people have things setup before they discovered FOSS - it’s hard for me to give up my gmail account from age 14, even though I run my own domain now.
Sometimes FOSS gets captured - Microsoft owns githib now, which makes tough decisions for all the projects hosted there.
Thanks for the reply, cheers.
Because users don’t use it.
Eat shit, microsoft
I am a newbie in LibreOffice, but I am wondering whether me chronicling my first experiences in it would be worth doing.
I think what we sorely lack is more people like Nick and Michael Horn making approachable tech news about this niche.
I understand that to some the idea itself of the tech news cycle, focused on its own navel all the time is not appealing, but I think that is exactly there that a channel like this could distinguish itself, showcasing OSS solutions having an impact on the public good, something the usual news outlets cannot afford to do since every second is lost revenue.
The only risk is being boring.
Old news.
What isn’t made clear is if this had anything to do with him being a LibreOffice developer. Orr just the usual Kafkaesque bullshit that happens when someone’s account gets flagged for “suspicious activity” or whatever and they cannot get a real human being to help or reverse the problem.
Doesn’t he live in Moscow? So it might just be due to the sanctions.
Or the terrifyingly-random bullshit that happens when someone chooses to depend on a free service such as Hotmail as their primary mission-critical address. (This article is about the developer getting locked out of their Hotmail, and the generally-broken state of Hotmail’s account recovery process.)
That could be it. What is certain is that these big corps really don’t want to pay human beings to sort out issues so if you get caught in the middle of some BS you may have no recourse out of it.
Or the terrifyingly-random bullshit that happens when someone chooses to depend on a free service such as Hotmail as their primary mission-critical address. (This article is about the developer getting locked out of their Hotmail, and the generally-broken state of Hotmail’s account recovery process.)
What was a LibreOffice developer doing using Microsoft stuff in the first place?
If you use Microsoft or Meta or any of the usual suspects, and they screw up or get hacked or behave badly, don’t be all surprised and complain. It’s what they do, and they don’t care, and never listen. You know this.
Can someone suggest me good alternatives to both Microsoft’s mailing system (Outlook, etc.), and to Github, just in case?
Self hosting email is HARD if you aren’t an expert but I figured it out. It took a while to get it stable and usable but man it has felt so good being in control of my email. Worth the effort. I use mailu, which is docker based. Works great.
I use posteo.de, rarely with the web interface though, I use software clients for email
I use Codeberg
They’re annoyingly only allowing open source repos and active forks etc…
Link errors out when I try to open it
For Outlook as an E-Mail client: I like Claws-Mail or just standard Thunderbird.
For Outlook as an E-Mail Service: Either Self-Host or find a good provider (I have a small German company where I pay 1€/month and get great service)
As an GitHub alternative, I use sourcehut. The link is sr.ht btw
probably forgot the account still existed. was it libreoffice@hotmail.com? eh
Why do I feel like any customer support has been replaced by ai and it has led to this show of shit?
Big tech companies never had any CS people.
Most likely, yes. Probably some sort of automation that ran wild.
Replaced? They didn’t have any in the first place
Anyone who has projects on Github they care about, you might wanna move it to self-hosting or another git host while you still can, because once MS gets tired of killing e-mails, Github repos are probably going to start getting sniped next.
Even if you stay on GitHub, definitely mirror to another host. Git is designed to be distributed, why not make use of that capability!
So either Codeberg, Sourcehut or Gitlab ?? If you want to quit Git entirely then Fossil or Darcs/Pijul ?
I host my main repository on my “lab server” at home, I got a copy on codeberg, and my public repo are mirrored on github.
I specify in the github description that’s a mirror with a link to codeberg.
Github is the little outcast kid of the bunch…
Oh man, I hate the whole git system so much, it was like the worst part of coding.
They probably meant purely self hosted. You can self hosted Gitea, Forgejo, GitLab, and probably many others.
git (by itself) is no harder to host than SSH.
I wouldn’t say it is particularly easy to setup, not easier than using a Docker image at least.
Gitea (and hopefully Forgejo as well) really is.
I can vouch for Forgejo, it is pretty easy.
Self-hosted GitLab is what GNOME and Debian chose to do.
I still use the main GitLab for most things.
https://repo.or.cz/ provides just git hosting.
It’s also relatively easy to just self-host Git, though permissions can be wonky, at least last time I tried.
I can’t recommend Darcs. Luckily I don’t see MS (or any other corp) being able to take over core Git development. I really should try Pijul again, but least time I played with it, the history/branch visualization (which you can do without, but I really like to have) was actually still worse than Darcs.
codeberg is owned by a nonprofit. highly recommend it
Or self-host if that’s feasible, MAS has been self-hosting for a while now, for example.
No real reason to be using a hotmail account in this day and age, even less so if you’re a developer of a direct competitor for Microsoft.
What alternative do you recommend that won’t be blocked by Google and Microsoft? I hate Microsoft, but I can’t even sign up for a Google account, and everywhere else I’ve tried is blocked by Google, Microsoft, or both.
I self-hosted my email from 2006-2021, and do not have the stamina to do that any more.
I use posteo.de
If your concern is being blocked, the best advice is to avoid any free email service and pony up for a paid one.
ProtonMail used to be the big one, but IIRC they had some controversy recently:
Other commenter already mentioned Zoho, but also mailbox.org.
Zoho works well for me with my own domain (though I am on the old free plan that allows IMAP, while today the free plan only supports webmail or their own app). I also know someone who uses Tuta without problems sending to Google and Microsoft.
I just don’t really value email accounts much. I have several and only rarely check them.
Do they even still issue them? Like prior to ~2007 Hotmail was THE free email to have before Google, like, did it better. But aren’t they issuing outlook.com addresses now?
I stopped using Hotmail when gmail launched and I was given one of the early invites from a tech relative. I have the welcome email from '04.
But now I’m looking at moving my emails to a self hosted solution because they have used everything in my >20year email history for Ai and I don’t want that to continue into the future.
Dunno… the last time I dealt with it was someone trying to reach my mom and couldn’t.
I asked them to verify the address…
@hotmale.com
Oh, well there’s your problem!
Oh, well there’s your problem!
Or is it?
-yup, it is :-/
When MS ditched the Hotmail name, they went to their “Live” branding. I have an account with that domain, in addition to my old Hotmail account.
I wish I held onto my old Yahoo account, but it got so full of spam that it became completely unusable; so I deleted it 🫤
Yahoo still exists. Somehow. Apparently the brand is extremely popular in Japan, Yahoo Japan is on the list of top 50 visited websites. IIRC the brand was bought by Verizon, and I have no idea if Yahoo even offers web search anymore.
Apparently Yahoo uses Microsoft Bing for their search backend.
How the hell are we down to two meaningful web engines and two meaningful search engines?
There’s Firefox and everyone else, and everyone else uses Chrome.
There’s Google and everyone else, and everyone else uses Bing.
Eh, that’s the problem with email - it’s much harder to change and migrate, because you can’t guarantee others will use your new email, much less find out who somehow still has the old email to send messages to and expects a reply from.
Also you can get locked out of other services that use email for 2FA and password resets
compared to what? much easier than phone numbers
Unless you own the domain. Then switching providers is a simple DNS/MX/DKIM/DMARC update.
Eh, that’s when you just turn on auto-reply/forwarding and abandon it.
But of course they need to be able to access it to enable auto-reply. :)
This. Don’t ever delete the account because someone will scoop it up and impersonate you. Just set auto reply and log out. Check the terms, you may need to log in every 6 months though. Do that a couple of times at least.
This is an argument for having your own domain for emails. There is an annual cost but at least your address isn’t locked to a specific provider sokcd you can change some DNS settings to point at a different mail server.
It’s also an argument for not having your own domain for emails, because you may one day loose that domain too, and someone could poach the domain to impersonate you.
I’ve been with Tuta mail for years now and it just keeps getting better. It’s not free, but I believe that that’s why it’s a good choice. They’ve add the calendar app and are expanding to cloud storage.
Yep, it’s a great idea
To much of a power use to use LibreOffice exclusively, but it is amazing for what it is and Microsoft is absolute shit
